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therobit posted:Some people like having yards. Lawns are one of the most ridiculous excesses of suburbia. The water consumption alone is unconscionable. If postwar America had not invented the idea no one would consider a huge lawn and a two-car garage as remotely reasonable.
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DoctorWhat posted:Lawns are one of the most ridiculous excesses of suburbia. The water consumption alone is unconscionable. If postwar America had not invented the idea no one would consider a huge lawn and a two-car garage as remotely reasonable. I never water my scraggly rear end lawn, and I have about as much shrubbery as lawn anyway. But I like being able to have my kids play outside, I like having a dog and chickens, and a garage to sink around in. It’s pretty great, and costs me less than an apartment two miles closer in.
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Sep 21, 2021 08:32
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Having a garage is reasonable, but I only have a lawn because I rent and have no say in the matter. The landscapers mow it, so at least all I have to do is pretend to water it sometimes.
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Sep 21, 2021 08:42
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Sigh. My Dad finally went Nextdoor, and linked me to a Lightning strike in Irvine. Sorry Dad, I am not signing up just to see you and your neighbors stare bewildered at the first time OC has lightning in a decade.
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Sep 21, 2021 09:36
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Try and tell us our future's at stake And we're gonna slam dance on your grave Because we don't give a poo poo about tomorrow Hey suburbia, hey suburbia, hey suburbia We're in love with you
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Sep 21, 2021 11:32
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DoctorWhat posted:Lawns are one of the most ridiculous excesses of suburbia. The water consumption alone is unconscionable. If postwar America had not invented the idea no one would consider a huge lawn and a two-car garage as remotely reasonable. Lawns are neither limited to the suburbs nor the only thing that people have in their yards. If I ever am able to buy something I plan to have native plants in my yard
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Sep 21, 2021 14:33
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Lawns and green space is awesome if you live in a place where stuff just grows all the time. Watering the lawn is something rain does, and it never dies or anything unless someone or something digs it up or does donuts on it or something. You can even stop mowing some places for a week or two and let random trees and flowers sprout up. People who water their lawns are a minority in a lot of America and you're weird if you think otherwise.
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Sep 21, 2021 15:30
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We want to replace the grass we have with clover or moss, just something that doesn't grow too tall and that we wouldn't have to mow. Our neighbors who treat their lawn and mow multiple times a week probably look at us with disgust, but we just don't care about the purity of grass or whatever.
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Sep 21, 2021 15:35
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food not lawns!
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Sep 21, 2021 15:37
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satanic splash-back posted:Lawns and green space is awesome if you live in a place where stuff just grows all the time. Watering the lawn is something rain does, and it never dies or anything unless someone or something digs it up or does donuts on it or something. Exactly! I'm turning my front lawn into an informal orchard, and have flowerbeds filled with dahlias. It's awesome.
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Sep 21, 2021 15:49
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Plant mint instead. Smells nice, you can eat it, and your annoying neighbors will die of aneurysms when it takes over their yard in a week
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Sep 21, 2021 15:49
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Meme Poker Party posted:Cool snakes itt. a noticeable lack of tits, though. hmm OGDanDogg posted:It's still a loose dog in suburbia, but really? lmao what really is a coyote? maybe someday, scientists will discover the answer to this question Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What if there was a novel, and it was very weird, and every character in the novel was awful and mean and hateful and scared and racist and weird, and there were lots of extremely explicit sex scenes that were also creepy and gross, and there was a story, and it was a sad and crushingly depressing story, and no one learned anything, and nothing too dramatic or meaningful happened, and the whole thing was autobiographical?? what you have just described is colloquially known as 'life'
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Sep 21, 2021 18:43
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satanic splash-back posted:Lawns and green space is awesome if you live in a place where stuff just grows all the time. Watering the lawn is something rain does, and it never dies or anything unless someone or something digs it up or does donuts on it or something. sure but the problem is out west in states where stuff doesn't "just grow all the time" lawns are still popular because of that american suburban aesthetic. not just with home owners but with hotels and corporate office parks and so on. its changing slowly but not enough
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Sep 21, 2021 19:21
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the nextdoor is coming from inside the thread
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Sep 21, 2021 19:26
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Earwicker posted:sure but the problem is out west in states where stuff doesn't "just grow all the time" lawns are still popular because of that american suburban aesthetic. not just with home owners but with hotels and corporate office parks and so on. its changing slowly but not enough So your argument is that nobody should have a yard because most people will want to have a lawn and then other people who live in an environment where a lawn would need to be watered might decide they need a lawn too?
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Sep 21, 2021 19:50
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therobit posted:So your argument is that nobody should have a yard because most people will want to have a lawn and then other people who live in an environment where a lawn would need to be watered might decide they need a lawn too? what the gently caress? when did i say "nobody should have a yard"? im saying the suburban "lawn aesthetic" is popular in areas where, due to the climate, it results in a massive amount of water waste. i think it would be better if people and companies in those areas grew native plants or use other styles of yard or garden that do not result in that amount of water wastage. i have no idea how you got "nobody should have a yard" from what i said Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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Sep 21, 2021 19:54
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knuthgrush posted:food not lawns! This needs to be a new X-Files episode. Pink flamingos and front yard in-ground pools, and chickens and peas and cabbage and
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Sep 21, 2021 20:28
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I'm saying nobody should have a yard That land could be used for food production or industrial manufacture
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Sep 21, 2021 20:44
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An HOA except all properties must conform to my perfectly efficient factorio map
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Sep 21, 2021 21:15
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Just gonna start smelting some pig iron on Saturdays as a side gig.
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Sep 21, 2021 21:21
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I saw a home in northern CA where the owner converted the front yard into a pumpkin patch 
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Sep 21, 2021 21:36
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Flowers for QAnon posted:I saw a home in northern CA where the owner converted the front yard into a pumpkin patch sounds cool, you could even make some extra money around Halloween
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Sep 21, 2021 22:30
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JackBandit posted:An HOA except all properties must conform to my perfectly efficient factorio map Those fuckers keep citing me for my pipe spaghetti and yet they won't even keep the goddamn turrets fed enough to stop the biters from getting into the neighborhood. What do I even pay HOA fees for?
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Sep 21, 2021 23:03
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Earwicker posted:what the gently caress? when did i say "nobody should have a yard"? Sorry, I confused you and Dr. What who started lawnchat by saying that lawns are terrible in response to my statement that some people like having a yard and it is one reason a person might prefer the suburban lifestyle to the city.
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Sep 21, 2021 23:47
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Play posted:sounds cool, you could even make some extra money around Halloween Well, balanced against the costs of ammunition to defend them from random people.
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Sep 21, 2021 23:47
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Xeriscaping is cool and good, plant stuff that is supposed to grow where you are and not only will it look better but you also won't have to water or fertilize them anywhere near as often as non-native grasses or decoratives.
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Sep 22, 2021 00:03
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I will protect my .2 acres with my life! I have a small lawn in the front, and it looks pretty decent without water. I had a nice lawn in the back, but I'm now surrounded by trees and other light blocking items, so I'm getting dirt patches. I could give a poo poo. I have a fire pit, and with all the trees around I always have stuff to burn. Kind would of liked some sun in the back for a small garden, but I'm lazy as poo poo anyway. I had a privacy fence when I moved in, but the back part has since fallen in a hurricane, but now Ivy is taking over, and I've put some stakes/wire in the back for it to grow on. It'll eventually fall, too, but who cares. A new house was built on one side, and installed a privacy fence, so now I'm just waiting for my back and right neighbors houses to get demolished and rebuilt full with privacy fence. this fence is your fence, this fence is my fence for-ever, and for-ever
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Sep 22, 2021 00:31
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Sydin posted:Those fuckers keep citing me for my pipe spaghetti and yet they won't even keep the goddamn turrets fed enough to stop the biters from getting into the neighborhood. What do I even pay HOA fees for? Without a HOA the letsgameitout guy would be lowering all our property framerates!!!
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Sep 22, 2021 00:42
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Well, balanced against the costs of ammunition to defend them from random people. Theres a bit of an ammo shortage going on right now, I wonder how much more expensive hevi-shot is compared to regular lead shot. You're right though, gotta defend them puckins though.
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Sep 22, 2021 00:46
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Earwicker posted:what the gently caress? when did i say "nobody should have a yard"? What’s your metric for massive? Some quick googling suggested that while most agencies investigating water use are strangely tight lipped about separating water use of individual people from water use of industries, agriculture, golf courses, etc i found a stat from California that said 10% of the usage was for homes/apartments etc. additionally I found a stat that between 30-60% of water usage in such a case is for irrigation, ie: suburbia lawns. So if we split that in the middle, 45% of 10% is 4.5% of the states total water usage. Now compare that to what they use on almonds and it’s p clear this is just another dumb trend of trying to blame poo poo on the decadence of proles rather than addressing the actual issues. FWIW I find my lawn annoying and would rather swap it for something like terraced native plants (lmao HOA’s suck) but I don’t begrudge my neighbors, particularly those with kids that play in the lawns, for having something that makes them happier. If water concern is an issue I’d rather go after the numerous commercial spenders first that are making bank off lopsided contracts where they spend a communal resource for their own profit.
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Sep 22, 2021 02:54
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If I had an HOA I would probably get kicked out of the neighborhood. Luckily I’m not even incorporated so it has to rise to the level of the county giving a poo poo. Unfortunately the boomer across the back fence calls in everybody for everything he can, because he’s a dick. When he comes over to discuss something between our two properties he won’t talk to my wife and will insist on talking to me. He treats women like they don’t exist when they try to participate in the conversation.
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Sep 22, 2021 02:56
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ArbitraryC posted:What’s your metric for massive? Some quick googling suggested that while most agencies investigating water use are strangely tight lipped about separating water use of individual people from water use of industries, agriculture, golf courses, etc i found a stat from California that said 10% of the usage was for homes/apartments etc. additionally I found a stat that between 30-60% of water usage in such a case is for irrigation, ie: suburbia lawns. So if we split that in the middle, 45% of 10% is 4.5% of the states total water usage. I will cop to using a sprinkler if and only if my kids are running through it on a hot day. They have to wear sandals though because my lawn is brown and crunchy in the summer.
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Sep 22, 2021 02:58
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For the concerned environmentalist the deplorable waste of lawn, toilet, bath, shower, etc is dwarfed by industrial and agricultural use. It's nice to feel like you're doing your part to xeriscape and place anchors and chains (seaside living) in your rock garden. Well, we all play the fiddle and polish the brass. Sometimes it's just nice to show you care in a different way. Going against the grahahahahahah
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Sep 22, 2021 03:01
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ArbitraryC posted:10% of the usage was for homes/apartments etc. additionally I found a stat that between 30-60% of water usage in such a case is for irrigation, ie: suburbia lawns. So if we split that in the middle, 45% of 10% is 4.5% of the states total water usage. this is why i specifically said the issue is not just homeowners but also corporate office parks, hotels, golf courses, etc. quote:Now compare that to what they use on almonds and it’s p clear this is just another dumb trend of trying to blame poo poo on the decadence of proles rather than addressing the actual issues. of course corporate agriculture is a substantially bigger problem than lawns, i'm not denying that at all. all i'm saying is the popular american "lawn aesthetic" is no good in the west and it would be better if replaced with native plant growth. is growing almonds and pistachios in a climate where that can't be sustained an ever bigger problem? of course it is, but the discussion was about lawns. one problem being bigger than another problem doesn't make the second problem non-existent or undiscussable
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Sep 22, 2021 03:03
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Western Oregon and Western Washington an sustain lawns easily. Probably a lot of coastal CA as well. Of course AZ, CO, NM, NV, the desert parts of CA, and several other places l shouldn’t be growing lawns. They also shouldn’t have golf courses and nut trees and large scale irrigated farming, which are what is actually draining the Colorado River. Saying suburbia is bad because lawns is super reductive.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:31
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therobit posted:Western Oregon and Western Washington an sustain lawns easily. Probably a lot of coastal CA as well. Of course AZ, CO, NM, NV, the desert parts of CA, and several other places l shouldn’t be growing lawns. They also shouldn’t have golf courses and nut trees and large scale irrigated farming, which are what is actually draining the Colorado River. Saying suburbia is bad because lawns is super reductive. Somewhere there is a senator from NJ or NV fighting to illegalize everything. And Joe Pesci is their unofficial mascot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE
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Sep 22, 2021 03:34
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Peggy’s right.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:37
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A Strange Aeon posted:We want to replace the grass we have with clover or moss, just something that doesn't grow too tall and that we wouldn't have to mow. I don't know where you live but round here I'll grow white clover 2-3 foot tall. I'd describe it as mow once or twice yearly. Pretty fertile round here though.
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Sep 22, 2021 09:39
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rip nextdoor thread Thought of lawns and died
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DrPossum posted:rip nextdoor thread I was thinking it was kind of like the Boomer thread, where inevitably the thread began to resemble the very thing it was mocking.
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