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seaborgium posted:I have several scenes like this, but I'm pretty sure we all get to see Mat gently caress up some rich boys so that should hold me over. I don't mind Galad in the story, but I hope Gawyn appears just long enough to get knocked out by Mat and then is never seen again.
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Khizan posted:I don't mind Galad in the story, but I hope Gawyn appears just long enough to get knocked out by Mat and then is never seen again. I am very worried that not only will this not happen, the explicit romance with Rand and Egwene is going to set up a direct Rand vs Gawyn rivalry
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Have they cast Gawyn yet? What's the guy who played Joffrey in GoT up to these days, is he free?
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I too lust for Gawyn's death as early as possible. The writers should only keep him around if they do something crazy like making Rand having the hots for Gawyn, too. Otherwise, his "I hate Rand" schtick can be done by Galad just as well, if you even need to have that aspect represented in Taringail's children.
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Gawyn's making it to the end cause his death is pretty key to Egwene's final moments
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I think Jordan would have done Tarmon Gaiden better because he understood how battles actually happen. The battle between Rand and then Seanchan near Ebou Dar is clear enough in my mind even now, with the plays and counterplays in their rough shapes. I remember the Last Battle having a bunch of...gimmicks, but I can't tell you much of how it went. The Aviendha through the pillars was really good tho, well done if that was all him.
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Bragon posted:I am very worried that not only will this not happen, the explicit romance with Rand and Egwene is going to set up a direct Rand vs Gawyn rivalry i'm hoping that they're going to make it more real without making it into like an active current romance. have it be "we broke up but always assumed we'd be back together" or something it might make sense for 16 year olds in a small town to have been promised to one another, but for 20-somethings it's better for them to have had something a little more serious they're both realizing just isn't going to work eke out fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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buffalo all day posted:https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1450179081694187526?s=20 At 0:10 is that Rand in Tar Valon? Or some kind of dream version thereof anyway.
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Pleads posted:Have they cast Gawyn yet? What's the guy who played Joffrey in GoT up to these days, is he free? I was going to say that Jack Gleeson retired from acting to go to college, and indeed there's nothing on his IMDB from 2015 to 2019, but I do see that he's dipped his foot back in the acting pool with roles in 2020 and 2021, so....maybe? 
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Oct 18, 2021 23:08
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What's the big gate-looking thing in the first shot? Portal Stone?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:What's the big gate-looking thing in the first shot? Portal Stone? Waygate maybe
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Eddie Redmayne would make a good gawyn
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Torrannor posted:Moiraine never stood before the Hall of the Tower in the main series, so that's interesting to see. I can't imagine that they'd do flashbacks to things that happened in New Spring. Moiraine being sent to the Two Rivers by Siuan is something that was unspoken but in retrospect obvious. I don't mind them making it overt.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:What's the big gate-looking thing in the first shot? Portal Stone? That's a Waygate. They've had pictures of that before, including in the EW article a few weeks back.
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Hmmm. No cool mosaic, but I can live with that.
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Oct 18, 2021 23:34
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Add the mosaic, Bezos you coward.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:At 0:10 is that Rand in Tar Valon? Or some kind of dream version thereof anyway. I'm guessing Shadar Logoth or an Ishy dream.
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the series Twitter account is only mildly cringey and has been posting a fair amount of stuff recently, worth a follow id say
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buffalo all day posted:the series Twitter account is only mildly cringey and has been posting a fair amount of stuff recently, worth a follow id say oh believe me, we haven't even scratched the surface yet in terms of how people as a whole will engage with the pop culture presence of a major streaming service's flagship fantasy series it's going to be a bumpy ride
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Democratic Pirate posted:Eddie Redmayne would make a good gawyn Gawyns supposed to be handsome though.
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Redmayne cameo as one of Rand's ancestors in TSR. "I am Aiel!"
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aparmenideanmonad posted:I'm guessing Shadar Logoth or an Ishy dream. Yeah, the stonework motif is what we're given to understand is Tar Valon (and we've seen set photos of Tar Valon that looks far more inhabited than this sequence) so it's likely a dream.
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Galad needs to be a prettyboy. Legolas era Orlando Bloom at the ugliest.
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Johnny Joestar posted:oh believe me, we haven't even scratched the surface yet in terms of how people as a whole will engage with the pop culture presence of a major streaming service's flagship fantasy series gonna be a hard unfollow once we get to premiere town but it’s fun getting these little peeks, as always w Twitter the lesson is never read the replies
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Galad needs to be a prettyboy. Legolas era Orlando Bloom at the ugliest. Cast a revolving gacha of k-pop stars, call it a day.
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Jedit posted:Moiraine being sent to the Two Rivers by Siuan is something that was unspoken but in retrospect obvious. I don't mind them making it overt. Really? I always thought Moiraine was just off entirely on her own, hadn't made a formal appearance in the Tower in years. Always trying to minimize her (apparent) connection with Siuan, while sending messages by pigeon regularly so she knows what's up. Like, Moiraine isn't there on an official mission that the whole Hall knows about. It's Verin and Elaida who piece together that something's going on.
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Moiraine does mention at some point that she managed to check out the angreal from tower storage in a way that does sound like she was sent out on some sort of mission.
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Natural 20 posted:What Jordan did so well was get you feeling the chaos of a battle, how isolated you can feel and how little you can do to direct the situation you're in. I actually think that Sanderson's style probably suited the Field of Merrilor better though, because of how intricate the moving pieces in that battle end up being. Jordan's typical ambiguity and confusion would have potentially led to an unintelligible mess there. Don't get me wrong. I don't hate the Sanderson books at all. I was responding to the notion that there wasn't another great and prolific American fantasy author with combat experience who could have stepped in to fill Jordan's shoes, but Gene Wolfe was right there and without a doubt the best writer of the three, and will likely be remembered as the best American fantasy author in history. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harriet was adamant about getting someone who was as close to unknown as possible while also having a proven body of work to finish the series just so there wouldn't be a risk of an established author "taking possession" of the series by finishing it. Despite working on the last three books, it is never going to be "Brandon Sanderson's Wheel of Time". People debating if the last three books are really all that good is kind of a net win for Jordan if the alternative is people debating whether or not the first 11 books are as good as the conclusion, which is a masterpiece written by someone else despite Jordan's contributions.
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I have never heard of Gene Wolfe, Shadow of the Torturer is not available at any library in my city of 1.3 million, and Amazon(.ca) doesn't have a physical version of it for less than $140. What the hell.
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That's a loving shame. I would strongly encourage you to get ahold of Shadow of the Torturer, The Fifth Head of Cerberus, or The Wizard Knight if you can find an affordable way to do so.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Gene Wolfe was right there and without a doubt the best writer of the three, and will likely be remembered as the best American fantasy author in history. I'm pretty sure that "Best American Fantasy Author" will go to LeGuin. Atlas Hugged posted:It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harriet was adamant about getting someone who was as close to unknown as possible while also having a proven body of work to finish the series just so there wouldn't be a risk of an established author "taking possession" of the series by finishing it. Despite working on the last three books, it is never going to be "Brandon Sanderson's Wheel of Time". People debating if the last three books are really all that good is kind of a net win for Jordan if the alternative is people debating whether or not the first 11 books are as good as the conclusion, which is a masterpiece written by someone else despite Jordan's contributions. I think the single biggest reason for giving the rest of the series to Sanderson was that he's an ultra-reliable workhorse writer. Giving the books to Sanderson meant that they knew the books would be written and the series would be completed within a pretty reasonable time frame. They weren't going to have to replace him with a third author or worry about him taking five years in between books or anything like that. Give him the notes and he'll bang out three doorstoppers of acceptable quality in ~4-5 years, easy.
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Vavrek posted:Really? I always thought Moiraine was just off entirely on her own, hadn't made a formal appearance in the Tower in years. Always trying to minimize her (apparent) connection with Siuan, while sending messages by pigeon regularly so she knows what's up. Like, Moiraine isn't there on an official mission that the whole Hall knows about. It's Verin and Elaida who piece together that something's going on. Well, yes? You just described to the letter the reasoning for Elaida deposing Siuan: that Siuan had been sending out her closest friends on missions to find and control the Dragon Reborn without the knowledge of Hall or Tower.
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Khizan posted:I'm pretty sure that "Best American Fantasy Author" will go to LeGuin. I was honestly debating this before I posted. They're very different writers and I'm glad we have both. quote:I think the single biggest reason for giving the rest of the series to Sanderson was that he's an ultra-reliable workhorse writer. Giving the books to Sanderson meant that they knew the books would be written and the series would be completed within a pretty reasonable time frame. They weren't going to have to replace him with a third author or worry about him taking five years in between books or anything like that. Give him the notes and he'll bang out three doorstoppers of acceptable quality in ~4-5 years, easy. This is likely true, but he had only published about a half dozen books and none of them were particularly long. The Mistborn trilogy was the most notable thing he had done at that point as well along with some Alcatraz books.
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Pleads posted:I have never heard of Gene Wolfe, Shadow of the Torturer is not available at any library in my city of 1.3 million, and Amazon(.ca) doesn't have a physical version of it for less than $140. I think it’s most recently been published in a volume with book 2 and it’s called “Shadow and Claw”, check for that?
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Khizan posted:
The single biggest reason was probably that Sanderson wrote a really nice blog post about Jordan's influence on his own writing when Jordan died. Most fantasy authors who commented on Jordan's death said things like this, from Guy Gavriel Kay: quote:This brings me back to Jim Rigney, Robert Jordan. On the Locus website I noted, in preparing these remarks, that he was never in his life nominated for a World Fantasy Award, for a Nebula, for a Hugo. Those encompass judge awards, peer awards and fan balloting. Which while kindly intended doesn't actually say anything about whether or not Kay himself thought the books were any good. Sanderson wrote a really nice eulogy / blog post about how much he liked Jordan's books and what they meant to him, and I believe that's what got Harriett's attention. Khizan posted:I'm pretty sure that "Best American Fantasy Author" will go to LeGuin. LeGuin arguably wins for "American Author" just on the strength of her prose style; you don't need to qualify it with "fantasy". Maybe a qualifier of "Modern" so she's not competing with, like, Twain. But Jordan did get repeatedly snubbed by the awards circuit. If nothing else, Eye of the World should have won something. I think the only award the whole series ever won was for Eye of the World's cover art. The series as a whole was nominated for a Hugo eventually but Ancillary Justice won that year instead. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:LeGuin arguably wins for "American Author" just on the strength of her prose style; you don't need to qualify it with "fantasy". Maybe a qualifier of "Modern" so she's not competing with, like, Twain. I think John Crowley, Wolfe and LeGuin are probably the three best “genre” fantasists I’ve read. And IMO RJ should have been nominated for the shadow rising, even though it’s insanely long. Really captures everything he was trying to do and he more or less pulled it off. I understand not recognizing EOTW at the time given how derivative it feels. It comes off much better with hindsight.
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Babylon 5 was also snubbed by the award givers, that doesn't change the fact that it was better than all the Star Trek which did win awards. Likewise, I don't know any 90s fantasy series that can compete with WoT. The only things in the fantasy genre I've read from that time were Harry Potter, which isn't bad but doesn't scratch my itch for epic/high fantasy, and Sword of Truth (don't judge me, I was young and I'm not American, so most of the political stuff went right over my head).
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silvergoose posted:Went over American kids heads too, I can say with experience. I've talked to people for whom the politics did not go over their heads and they fall into two camps: 1) People who immediately stopped reading the books 2) People who, well, you know
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