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Hieronymous Alloy posted:One hopes that with Mat's influence and the pressure of having to recapture her empire she re-thinks some things. The Dragon's Peace seems a lot more stable after Aviendha messes with it and the Aiel aren't just left alone to have their own blood feuds fester.
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Egwene isn’t Ta’veren, she just benefits from and is caught in the pull of the most powerful Ta’veren… Bella.
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Oct 27, 2021 03:07
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Oct 27, 2021 03:16
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Bela's taverened a spear I swear to God they can gently caress up Fain and Hopper and Uno but if they gently caress up Bela it'll be a real GoT move. That's an entire audience of horse people they'll piss off, who are all a little weird so will either buy the Funko pops and Subway advertisement sandwiches or roast the show endlessly on forums.somethinghands.com. Bela and Hurin. I really liked Hurin and he had to go get killed off screen with Bashere. I want someone in the show with unquenchable enthusiasm and an unflappable belief that Lord Rand will save the day. Poor Hurin.
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How are u posted:This is a very derivative exaggeration. Jordan's books are fantastic all the way through, and Sanderson does a fairly ok job of wrapping them up. PoD and CoT are just plain bad, my guy
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Rarity posted:PoD and CoT are just plain bad, my guy I disagree
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:I disagree
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It's cool that we can recognise a wide range of opinions on this 
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I think they're ok, but those 2 and winters heart have the most obvious plotlines to cut down in the TV show. They all have good moments, but they spend far too long on the Faile kidnapping plotline and Elaynes dumbass political machinations. On the other hand, Matt, Rand, Egwene, and Nyneave all tend to have really good plots in those books. In conclusion, the slog is a quagmire of contrasts It would be awesome to cut down on the bad plots and flesh out the Black Tower during those seasons The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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The Glumslinger posted:I think they're ok, but those 2 and winters heart have the most obvious plotlines to cut down in the TV show. They all have good moments, but they spend far too long on the Faile kidnapping plotline and Elaynes dumbass political machinations. On the other hand, Matt, Rand, Egwene, and Nyneave all tend to have really good plots in those books. OTOH having the Black Tower being a black box of mystery works really well (and Brandon Sanderson lifting the veil on that mystery, conversely, did not). And you're not going to get people agreeing on what the "bad plots" are.
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Path of Daggers has some fun stuff. Salidar politics is pretty good as things go. Rand's part feels the weakest there since so much of it is just this stalemate with the Seanchan. I honest to god can't remember a single defining feature of Crossroads of Twilight though. In rereads I've usually just skipped the book because nothing happens and you can pick up from Knife of Dreams without really missing anything.
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Torrannor posted:The series gets better with time, though there's a bit of a slog in some of the "middle books", with the worst offender being book 10. Book 11 immediately picks up pace a lot, and books 12, 13 and 14 are the split apart final book, and even in 3k pages there's so much going on that some storylines are still noticeably truncated. Okay, thanks! I'll try to remember in a couple of months when I'm on book 9 that it's gonna get slower but then get better. And since I've got my answer and this is the spoiler thread, I'm gonna GTFO. Thanks everyone!
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:OTOH having the Black Tower being a black box of mystery works really well I remember screaming at Rand the whole time that he should probably go check on Taim and the Black Tower I think RJ did it on purpose
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Crossroads of Twilight would make a really solid episode
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Jose Valasquez posted:Crossroads of Twilight would make a really solid cliffhanger
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Yeah I was bustling in here to say that Dropping the series all at once for a binge watch would be the biggest departure possible from the book experience
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I forget if it was ITT or the TV IV thread but I'm glad Amazon is only putting out the first 3 episodes before switching to a weekly release format, just because it makes discussing the show so much easier / better when everyone's on the same proverbial page.
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Also shows that drop all at once pass out of the cultural consciousness so fast that they become way more forgettable. Week-by-week is the way to go if they want WoT to be huge
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crossroads of twilight had some really solid mat chapters and then there was everything else
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Hexel posted:I remember screaming at Rand the whole time that he should probably go check on Taim and the Black Tower I agree with the consideration that after a certain point (pretty much immediately) it became too dangerous for him and had to be trusted to take care of itself.
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Hexel posted:I remember screaming at Rand the whole time that he should probably go check on Taim and the Black Tower That's ultimately the point of "Let the Lord of Chaos rule." By presenting Rand with so many problems and threats at the same time, he's not going to be able to focus on all of them. So yeah, he manages to dig the Forsaken out of Illien, but at the cost of losing track of what's happening at the Black Tower. He cleanses the Taint on Saidin, but while he's doing that, the Seanchan grab the entire western coast of his continent save Arad Doman. Etc, etc, etc. It's made worse by the fact that he doesn't believe he can trust most of his allies so he feels the need to do everything himself, and he can't cover everything so things keep slipping away from him. And about the only allies he does trust unequivocally, Mat and Perrin, get bogged down in Ebou Dar and chasing the Shaido respectively, and aren't there to take some of the burden off him. Plus his whole "never trust an Aes Sedai" cuts him off from the rest of his natural allies in Egwene, Nynaeve, and Elayne. And hell, it very nearly works. They ran Rand to the ragged edge and he only kept from falling completely to darkness himself by the narrowest of margins.
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I know it's the no spoilers thread, but in case people don't want to watch the trailer I'm gonna spoil this bit. Did they just leave out a bit of the oaths? With subtitles on they ended the sentence before the part about using the one power as weapon "except against shadowspawn or in defense of her own or her warder's life". Pretty big thing to leave out since now the Green Ajah has no purpose. Though I do like that "It's one of you five" for who could be the Dragon. Definitely a switch up from the books.
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seaborgium posted:I know it's the no spoilers thread, but in case people don't want to watch the trailer I'm gonna spoil this bit. Presumably the rest of the oath is still in the show just not the trailer.
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Is it just me or do the trailers keep getting better?
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th3t00t posted:Is it just me or do the trailers keep getting better? That is how you want to do it.
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Hell yeah Nynaeve gets to be a special girl too
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Trollocs look gross (good) and the whitecloaks get to actually kill an Aes sedai
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Presumably the rest of the oath is still in the show just not the trailer. That's my assumption as well, all of the rule lawyery bits on the oaths would detract from the pace of the trailer
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that aiel in the snow on dragonmount got me hyped, did not expect to see that here
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Democratic Pirate posted:Trollocs look gross (good) and the whitecloaks get to actually kill an Aes sedai I just figured it was a random, they're not known for really caring about who they burn at the stake. If you want to set them up as evil that's the way to do it. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Presumably the rest of the oath is still in the show just not the trailer. Probably, but it just seemed odd to me.
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seaborgium posted:I just figured it was a random, they're not known for really caring about who they burn at the stake. If you want to set them up as evil that's the way to do it. “You’re carrying herbs and wearing yellow, a known color of the witches, and are therefore sentenced to death” is a hell of villain intro hook, I agree.
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eke out posted:that aiel in the snow on dragonmount got me hyped, did not expect to see that here For reals they looked dope AF and this means a Battle of the Shining Walls flashback, so stoked
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seaborgium posted:I know it's the no spoilers thread, but in case people don't want to watch the trailer I'm gonna spoil this bit. I'm watching through this now but IGN also dropped a trailer walkthrough with Rafe, and he explicitly mentions the part that you're asking about, so it looks like they just cut it off in the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjq7iHhuTG0
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eke out posted:that aiel in the snow on dragonmount got me hyped, did not expect to see that here Yeah, I was just about to comment on that. Looked sweet. seaborgium posted:I just figured it was a random, they're not known for really caring about who they burn at the stake. If you want to set them up as evil that's the way to do it. Democratic Pirate posted:“You’re carrying herbs and wearing yellow, a known color of the witches, and are therefore sentenced to death” is a hell of villain intro hook, I agree. While that is possible, if you want to make the Whitecloaks a legitimate threat beside just being evil, then having them able to capture and execute a legit Aes Sedai is also the way to do it. e: For that matter, we see Valda adding the Aes Sedai's ring to a collection of such rings he's got on his belt, so yeah, that's a real Aes Sedai and not the first he's killed. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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In the trailer walkthrough the showrunner uses "corruption" instead of "taint" -- show ruined
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Who's that dude in the white royal-looking clothes with the silver goblet?
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Data Graham posted:Who's that dude in the white royal-looking clothes with the silver goblet? eamon valda i think
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Data Graham posted:Who's that dude in the white royal-looking clothes with the silver goblet? I would assume Lord Captain Commander of the Children of the Light.
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Chomposaur posted:I'm watching through this now but IGN also dropped a trailer walkthrough with Rafe, and he explicitly mentions the part that you're asking about, so it looks like they just cut it off in the trailer: rafe, talking about that aiel scene, says that they're doing the prologues/flashbacks/flash forwards to show things happening apart from the main characters, which is really exciting i was worried they'd somehow do a GOT style "no flashbacks, everything through our characters eyes" and you'd miss so much cool poo poo if you did it that way
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