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buffalo all day posted:this is dumb as poo poo, like ppl aren’t going to be embarrassed by stuff we think now in 10 years, 30 if we’re lucky. poo poo changes. I’m looking forward to seeing what progressive thinker today gets ripped apart 30 years from now for not being progressive enough and knowing exactly how our society was going to evolve.
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Growing and realizing you have the capacity to be a better person today than you were yesterday is a noble goal that we should all aspire to, imho.
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Nov 13, 2021 04:46
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latinotwink1997 posted:I’m looking forward to seeing what progressive thinker today gets ripped apart 30 years from now for not being progressive enough and knowing exactly how our society was going to evolve. Lol, you think that progressive thinking as we currently see it will exit in 30 years. By then climate change will have really changed the game on what people think is "important". If anything, I think this current trend of being hyper aware and very gatekeeper about language will make way to a huge rise in fascist/extreme conservative thought process, which frankly, a lot of zoomers on tick top are already doing by basically having puritanical value systems about sex but making it out like they are progressive, or thinking they are. Anyway, very stoked for Next Friday. I have a friend that's only read the first 4 books who will come over and watch it at some point with me, and they're stoked.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:18
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If it's going to just be another cycle of the story then they should at the very least change the character names. It's got to be Tand, Chris, Perry, Gwen, and Knife, for christ's sake.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:21
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read somewhere that it will drop at 7p on Thursday because Amazon always premiers at midnight GMT? expecting sick reviews here from our wot goons who are going to the premiers. or HA will be probin u behind 7 seals for 3000 years, he told me already.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:27
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Jaxyon posted:Something beyond Loki bisexuality being talked about a decade after his intro? Yeah, Phaistos has a husband and they've got a kid together. They even smooch on screen
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Nov 13, 2021 05:46
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It'd be p good if they updated the outdated aspects to reflect the times. Go full hog wild, I say.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:57
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Jaxyon posted:Deal with sex and gender being less strictly binary and also type of OP you touch being absolutely linked to that binary. The cultures being depicted still have a pretty strict gender binary, though nothing like the grimy misogyny one expects from lazy fantasy depictions of medieval-equivalent societies.
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Nov 13, 2021 12:20
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been listening to the soundtrack on spotify, it's pretty good i think i like mordero'sheen the most, it is properly spooky
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Nov 13, 2021 16:00
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:he did write a groundbreaking in the moment piece of commentary that spoke to tons of people Yeah, which is why I’m saying that’s how I imagine it would go if he were writing today. As it is we’re awkwardly stuck between two eras with no great way to satisfy both.
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Nov 13, 2021 16:00
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Jimbot posted:It'd be p good if they updated the outdated aspects to reflect the times. Go full hog wild, I say. Legion Dance Battles Please.
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Nov 13, 2021 16:16
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Barreft posted:Said it way better than me, thanks Sorry y'all, i posted bad
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Nov 13, 2021 16:28
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SerSpook posted:been listening to the soundtrack on spotify, it's pretty good Dont forget to check out the animated shorts we'll get getting on launch day too https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1459223681687699458
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Nov 13, 2021 19:56
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Huh. https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300450585/the-wheel-of-time-kiwi-actress-zoe-robins-is-about-to-hit-the-big-time TIL Nynaeve is being played by a kiwi.
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Nov 13, 2021 20:46
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OK seriously what is with this influx of kiwi actors/actresses lately? They're showing up in every prestige show. * not a complaint
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Nov 13, 2021 20:48
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We're the best
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Nov 13, 2021 20:48
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I hope she does standard kiwi accent, doubly so if she has a Maori or island accent
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Nov 13, 2021 20:54
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https://twitter.com/James_alThor/status/1459623562466189330?s=20
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Nov 14, 2021 04:41
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Nov 14, 2021 04:46
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The books are old, I’m sure there’s someone out their named Lews Theron.
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Nov 14, 2021 05:11
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I have a buddy that named his kid Elyas after reading Eye of the World, thinking he would be a more major character.
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Nov 14, 2021 05:25
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I mean, it is a real variant of Elijah. Apparently. I just learned.
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Nov 14, 2021 05:32
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Invalid Validation posted:The books are old, I’m sure there’s someone out their named Lews Theron. Hell, there's been time for some Lews Juniors.
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Nov 14, 2021 05:38
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hell, there's been time for some Lews Juniors. God. I just. You know what I really want out of The Wheel on Prime BluRay release? I want an actual not-recorded-off-cable-TV copy of Winter Dragon. Toss it in! Bonus for the fans! Please, Amazon. You picked up the rights to it, so no one else could ever do anything with it, right?
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Cryte Lynn posted:I have a buddy that named his kid Elyas after reading Eye of the World, thinking he would be a more major character. I know an Elias through these very forums. The Y-spelling is uniquely WOT, though. And hey, it's going to blow your mind when you learn that not only is Nynaeve derived from the Irish name "Niamh", "nigh" means "to clean" and "niamh" means "bright" or "radiant". It's not real Irish grammar of course, but her name crudely translates to "clean it till it shines". In other words, we're told from the off that she's going to cleanse the Taint.
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Invalid Validation posted:The books are old, I’m sure there’s someone out their named Lews Therin. One of the content creators amazon is flying out to London for the premiere had a flight attendant named Liandrin 
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Hexel posted:One of the content creators amazon is flying out to London for the premiere had a flight attendant named Liandrin Yeah, I heard about that:
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Vavrek posted:Apparently, one of the inspirations for the series was a fantasy novel RJ read back in the 70s. It had a plotline about a woman who wasn't allowed to do magic, because that was Man Stuff, and was representing the gender politics of 1970s USA in fantasy. Which, y'know, fine and good. But it got him thinking: what if a man doing magic was what freaked people out? The seals being the Eye(s) of the World is pretty dope tbh LionArcher posted:I see we are on this bit of the boring repeat conversation. Clearly the series will update that stuff. It was not the beginning of the gender essentialism conversation. There are no beginnings or endings to the Wheel of Thoughtcrime. But it was a beginning. Nihilarian posted:Walking on eggshells desperately trying not alter the vision of the vision of the original author is the quickest way to make an absolute dogshit adaptation. Things that work for some media absolutely do not work for other media, and when you alter those things to fit the media its being adapted to, you will inevitably inject parts of yourself into the script. This is not a bad thing to be avoided, this is how you make something good. Watchmen being a great example of a lovingly transcribed version that constantly struggled against the change in medium Also, I just had a thought: the Heroes of the Horn might be a good way to showcase souls being non-gendered. When they're summoned they're shown as all their incarnations throughout the turning of the wheel, so why not have them androgynous or fuzzing between male/female along with whatever garb they're wearing? Maybe it's only the One Power that's binary, so if your soul is spun out and marked to be a channeler, what you channel is picked first which then determines your biological sex in this particular incarnation. I mean, it's still not great and fails with intersex, but it allows more room for non-binary people even if the One Power itself is completely binary. It's not your soul or any intrinsic property of yourself that determines what you channel in this life, it's just a coin flip between saidin and saidar and then that flip determines biological sex in this life. Your identity as a person can still be whatever, your sex at birth is just a random trait that happens to be tied to what you can channel. You will still preserve the "oh poo poo the Dragon is a saidin-channeler we're hosed" and open the possibility that in far ancient turnings the Hundred Companions were saidar-wielders that broke the world when it got I'm not well versed in trans issues so I might be way off base, in which case I apologize. DarkHorse fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 17:18
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This soundtrack is a lot better than it has any right to be, honestly.
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Nov 14, 2021 19:31
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I remembered in one of his Q and As he said not all souls were one to one in rebirth. It might have even been the one I went to.
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Nov 14, 2021 21:06
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DarkHorse posted:
I just want you to know this is fantastic.
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Nov 14, 2021 21:13
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I'm sorry about this,
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https://twitter.com/dedicatedgrady/status/1459950298802315265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Nov 14, 2021 21:38
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Nov 14, 2021 22:04
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I wonder how much of the dream sequences they'll include. There's a decent chunk of the first book dedicated to them and some of them are quite fun ('"We've been waiting for you" hissed the Mydraal'...) They also contain bucketloads of foreshadowing of course, but then again about half of WoT's 'thing' is extremely lengthy prophecies and watching how they come about/are made to come about. Definitely going to be interesting to see how they approach this structural element.
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Nov 14, 2021 22:09
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All this debate about trans issues is really weird to me cause I'm a trans person and I really don't need them gently caress around with the concept just for me. RJ created the series at a time when people like me were barely in the public consciousness and like that's ok. It's a limitation of the source material cause of the time it was made and that's fine. I'd like them to tweak Aran'gar a bit to make her fit the current climate and Min being an enby would be super cool but they don't need to do more if it causes problems with the story.
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literally most of what i care about is them doing something with the aran'gar poo poo, and that alone definitely shouldn't inspire a bunch of mopey handwringing from people sweating about The Vision being changed since it was always kind of something people halfway forgot the details about anyways
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Nov 14, 2021 23:22
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The only thing I even care remotely about plotwise with Aran'gar is the fully sick moment in Winter's Heart
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Honestly, I'm kinda enjoying watching the right wing outrage mob wet themselves over what's turning out to be a near-punctilious adaptation.
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