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So what's the flu and booster situation? Same day OK, otherwise wait three weeks? Give no fucks?
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 one third as likely to get infected, half as likely to need hospitalization 
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Nov 18, 2021 20:52
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 Data is from July 4th-September 25th CDC really, really wants to pretend the last 2 months didn't happen
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Nov 18, 2021 20:52
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Wait time for testing is 4-5 days in some places now. Who could have foreseen this? 
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Nov 18, 2021 20:53
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genericnick posted:So what's the flu and booster situation? Same day OK, otherwise wait three weeks? Give no fucks? Yeah I just got both and didn't feel any worse than when I got just the a pfizer shot before. The main difference is that both shoulders hurt.
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Nov 18, 2021 20:55
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genericnick posted:So what's the flu and booster situation? Same day OK, otherwise wait three weeks? Give no fucks? Novavax study came out this week showing a flu shot given at the same time as their COVID booster doesn't affect the flu shot, but it decreases antibodies of the COVID booster
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Nov 18, 2021 20:56
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I just remembered that one tweet months ago from someone pondering if home ecmo could be a thing and got a hearty chuckle. Thanks for the memories, covid
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Nov 18, 2021 20:56
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Tzen posted:honestly surprised it took them this long to get the machine burrrrring repeatedly declaring covid to be over hasn't worked, and the only other arrow in the quiver is blaming the other guy anything materially effective would upset the donors
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McNugget Buddy posted:https://twitter.com/StevePhillipsMD/status/1460048143970619396 McNugget Buddy posted:It's possibly even longer - they've only monitored people for 8 months thus far Unfortunately, the analysis isn't designed to show that the protection lasts for 8 months, just that the exposure-risk-averaged protection over months 2-8 is ~80%. Because effectiveness is averaged over such a long period of time, it's entirely possible that protection wanes significantly by month eight but the waning is obscured by early effectiveness. This would be especially true if most of the exposure risk was early in the trial, but even a later bump in August might not be enough for waning protection to be obvious. It's also possible that it's still effective at eight months, it's just not possible to tell from the reported analysis (and probably not with their sample size). Petey posted:couple of disconnected thoughts after catching up on two days of posts That's interesting - do we know regeneron coverage rates? It's expensive to use as an alternative to vax+regular boosters but that's pretty on-point for stupid chuds.
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Nov 18, 2021 20:56
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posting on the page number that matches the year it must be, everyone i know is back to normal WOOOOOOOOO*COUGH*
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genericnick posted:So what's the flu and booster situation? Same day OK, otherwise wait three weeks? Give no fucks? CDC already updated guidance to say there's no issue with getting both shots on the same day. Same please get the flu shot so you will protected before you transform into a crocodile.
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Nov 18, 2021 20:57
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SplitSoul posted:Wait time for testing is 4-5 days in some places now. Who could have foreseen this? To get tested or to receive results? I know you're not in the USA It was like... Two business days to get tested, another two to get results here in the rear end end of new york
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Nov 18, 2021 20:57
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Gunshow Poophole posted:To get tested or to receive results? I know you're not in the USA  To get tested. They reintroduced rapid tests a few weeks ago and immediately scrapped them again. PCR had been scaled back massively and they can't scale back up fast enough to keep up with demand. Coronapass was reintroduced last Friday, so that's a factor as well.
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Nov 18, 2021 21:01
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 These are unadjusted crude population rates. It's pretty likely that their underestimating the individual-level hospitalization & death protection by quite a bit because younger people and people at less risk are also less likely to be vaccinated. Crude rates can be useful for eg hospital administration looking for what expect in incoming patients, but they're definitely not useful for determining individual effectiveness. It's a bit weird to see the CDC release numbers that can be easily misinterpreted as underselling vaccines - usually it's the other way around! E: The hospitalization and death rates were also conditional on having a COVID protection, meaning breakthroughs themselves. The lack of adjustment for risk factors still means that it's impossible to say anything about individual-level risk, though. Stickman fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Nov 18, 2021 21:02
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https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1461394960670871552quote:Sars-Cov-2 originated in bats and may have moved to humans via a still unidentified animal intermediary. Combined evidence from natural transmission and lab experiments suggests that the virus can infect most mammals, though unlike flu it does not infect birds. quote:Zoetis, the animal health company spun out of Pfizer, has developed a vaccine based on Sars-Cov-2 spike proteins which can be adapted for a wide range of species. Farmed mink are being inoculated on a substantial scale but Covid vaccines are not generally available for pets. You'd think Pfizer would be churning out Zoetis for cats and dogs by now
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Nov 18, 2021 21:02
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fosborb posted:how fast did we do the initial wave of old people? the press says quote:
but obviously the early rollout was slow because there weren't any available doses. the 7 day average when biden was sworn in was 900k a day, which was basically for seniors only at that point. so yeah, this is pretty pathetic - that's about 250k a day over the last week for kids, and there's less than 3x as many seniors as the age 5-11. we're vaccinating them way slower despite complete infrastructure + supply
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Nov 18, 2021 21:03
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 only 7x less likely to die ahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaha 
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Nov 18, 2021 21:05
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Cup Runneth Over posted:only 7x less likely to die ahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaha So still worse than flu lol.
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Nov 18, 2021 21:07
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 Why the gently caress did they tweet this , this is devastatingly bad . It doesn't even seem right because it has to be looking at unboosted old death rate vs non boosted youngs (since basically every old has at least one shot). Also phrasing it as a risk within just covid people makes it look worse than it is
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Nov 18, 2021 21:08
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There is a deer huddled against the corner of the mri building. Covid does make you magnetic!
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Nov 18, 2021 21:08
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only 7 times less likely? not worth the trouble of getting vaxxed
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Nov 18, 2021 21:09
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Delta-Wye posted:one third as likely to get infected, half as likely to need hospitalization Sounds like good odds to me, now let's go get brunch
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Nov 18, 2021 21:09
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Consummate Professional posted:only 7 times less likely? not worth the trouble of getting vaxxed 7x less likely if you caught it, but you're also 3x less likely to catch it. They shouldn't have broken the numbers out this way and just said 3x better vs infection, 6x vs hospital, 21x death
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Nov 18, 2021 21:10
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mastershakeman posted:Why the gently caress did they tweet this , this is devastatingly bad . It doesn't even seem right because it has to be looking at unboosted old death rate vs non boosted youngs (since basically every old has at least one shot) It's worse than that - it's crude, unadjusted population rates. It's literally impossible to say anything about individual-level protection from this analysis. It's super weird to see the CDC post misleading population-level analyses that make vaccines look worse, because usually it's the other way around. Their utter aversion to meaningful analysis is really goddamn annoying.
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Thoguh posted:Epidemiology twitter is crack pinging and there are a small but increasing amount of tweets like this. thankfully nowadays masks are back on and i don't quite feel that way when going into a place still avoid taking anyone with me when i can though
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Nov 18, 2021 21:11
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Stickman posted:Unfortunately, the analysis isn't designed to show that the protection lasts for 8 months, just that the exposure-risk-averaged protection over months 2-8 is ~80%. Because effectiveness is averaged over such a long period of time, it's entirely possible that protection wanes significantly by month eight but the waning is obscured by early effectiveness. This would be especially true if most of the exposure risk was early in the trial, but even a later bump in August might not be enough for waning protection to be obvious. That's a good-point wrt the time frame, vaccine-derived immunity at 2 months is quite a bit different than 8 months. How exactly would Regeneron provide more durable protection than vaccines anyways? It's still just antibodies that presumably degrade or are filtered from the blood at the same rate as naturally derived ones, and without the benefit of replenishment by plasma cells. Maybe if the initial Regeneron infusion is so large it produces a significantly larger concentration of neutralizing antibodies compared to vaccines even out to multiple months, otherwise don't see how it's possible. edit: Tzen posted:lol this was me back when the masks came off in may/june My kids haven't been inside any other place other than our apartment for over ~16 months, aside from the doctor's or dentist's office. Their next trip to the grocery store is going to blow their minds. Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Nov 18, 2021 21:12
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genericnick posted:So what's the flu and booster situation? Same day OK, otherwise wait three weeks? Give no fucks? give no fucks
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Nov 18, 2021 21:12
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No major side effects except soreness from my Pfizer booster. Endless vaccines will go easier for me than others it seems.  
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silicone thrills posted:King Countys outcomes tracker is finally showing the last month again. clicking on relative risk trend of cases made me feel great about where things are heading
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Nov 18, 2021 21:14
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Nocturtle posted:Still see masked parents in grocery stores with their young unmasked child and it always flummoxes me. What thought process gets you to that point? kids are great at wearing masks if you properly teach them to wear them if they are just little shits then they shouldn't come with you to the grocery store also drives me mad seeing new parents walking down a grocery store isle with their newborn strapped to their chest like what the gently caress is wrong with you both one of you stay outside/in the car with your infant you dumbfucks
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facetoucher cat posted:https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1461420449733218317?t=CaTPgS90vDClvzUT8bkQeQ&s=19 Piling on to say this tweet is dumb and so loving stupid good God drat the democrats and our idiot country
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Elea posted:No major side effects except soreness from my Pfizer booster. Endless vaccines will go easier for me than others it seems. 
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Stickman posted:It's worse than that - it's crude, unadjusted population rates. It's literally impossible to say anything about individual-level protection from this analysis. yeah its super weird
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Elea posted:No major side effects except soreness from my Pfizer booster. Endless vaccines will go easier for me than others it seems. is this cartoon supposed to be stephen pinker  he's already got the brain blockers and rubber spine
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finally got around to fixing some issues with the animated map and added some fast forward controls. might get around to adding a slider for folks to zoom around the timeline risk levels: https://imgur.com/MxG7Ibm.mp4 cases per 100k: https://i.imgur.com/GhESBnl.mp4 website with more animations (autoupdated daily with data from CovidActNow): https://anirona-wv5rtswotq-uw.a.run.app/ code: https://github.com/coronafamiliar/anirona corona familiar fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Nov 18, 2021 21:18
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I need numbers people! real numbers! I must calculate my precise individual risk of brunch
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Nov 18, 2021 21:19
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Asproigerosis posted:Lmao regeneron is going to be to ultimate prophylactic and the vaccines are going to give you cancer. Is there some new data on this since the discussion in here a few days ago? Or are you just having a lol I really don't want to have to worry about the vaccines causing cancer lmao
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Nov 18, 2021 21:20
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Buffer posted:I need numbers people! real numbers! i have your highly calibrated very scientific risk calculator right here: 
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Nov 18, 2021 21:21
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Fireside Nut posted:Is there some new data on this since the discussion in here a few days ago? Or are you just having a lol they're just having a lol, its not like they are a medical professional or anything 
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Fireside Nut posted:Is there some new data on this since the discussion in here a few days ago? Or are you just having a lol It's the latter
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