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Bar Crow posted:Incredible point missing. Just outstanding. No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 21:15
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Truly capitalism must be destroyed because it destroyed malls. This but unironically. Malls are fun.
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Nov 23, 2021 21:36
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IShallRiseAgain posted:No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. The point wasn't at all the mall.
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Nov 23, 2021 22:21
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IShallRiseAgain posted:No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. Bar Crow posted:Incredible point missing. Just outstanding.
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Nov 23, 2021 22:21
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I don't even know the binkmans.
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Nov 23, 2021 22:30
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IShallRiseAgain posted:No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. You should be aware that by your logic, every thing will be wrong, as time moves steadily forward and while the message (capitalism bad) will never age, every "chosen" thing to demonstrate this will be obsolete every 20 years or so. What you are suggesting is either an author-collective updating the comic every 20 years or to replace all objects in it with abstract, timeless symbols. That's nuts. Also  at you missing that thing killing people left and right on its death march, or did you think "Binkman's" is the name of a mall chain?  Or to summarize, you missed the point by at least 69° and now it's shooting over your head towards space
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Nov 23, 2021 22:35
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Libluini posted:You should be aware that by your logic, every thing will be wrong, as time moves steadily forward and while the message (capitalism bad) will never age, every "chosen" thing to demonstrate this will be obsolete every 20 years or so. It doesn't have to be a timeless thing no, but it has to be something that has actual value. The point of the comic is that capitalism will destroy everything in its path and that people will continue to try and support it. The point of the comic obviously isn't specifically about malls, and I never said it was. However, that's a dumb example for a thing to show the evils of capitalism. It'd be like showing the robot destroying a McDonalds or a coal mine.
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Nov 23, 2021 22:46
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malls being destroyed isnt a problem when you live in a big city but it is a legitimate problem if you live in a suburban area with barely any businesses besides huge chains. when i was a kid we had two malls in twenty minutes and if i wanted hobby supplies, trading cards, video games, gardening stuff, clothes that don't have duck dynasty logos on them, etc, i could just go there. now both those malls are dead as poo poo and i have to drive an hour if i want to shop somewhere that isnt a walmart. obviously this isnt a society destroying problem but it is a real issue, and it's a consequence of literally only caring about profits. tiny areas cant support businesses, so the businesses die, so people leave the small areas, so more businesses die. Endorph fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 22:47
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Endorph posted:malls being destroyed isnt a problem when you live in a big city but it is a legitimate problem if you live in a suburban area with barely any businesses besides huge chains. when i was a kid we had two malls in twenty minutes and if i wanted hobby supplies, trading cards, video games, gardening stuff, clothes that don't have duck dynasty logos on them, etc, i could just go there. now both those malls are dead as poo poo and i have to drive an hour if i want to shop somewhere that isnt a walmart. suburbs really are a dying model for so many reasons including this. With climate change and the death of retail, something has to change about suburbs. I've been watching a ton of videos on this subject lately and really enjoy this channel's takedowns of how awful suburbia is, coupled with some interesting solutions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0
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Nov 23, 2021 23:01
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IShallRiseAgain posted:It doesn't have to be a timeless thing no, but it has to be something that has actual value. The point of the comic is that capitalism will destroy everything in its path and that people will continue to try and support it. The point of the comic obviously isn't specifically about malls, and I never said it was. However, that's a dumb example for a thing to show the evils of capitalism. It'd be like showing the robot destroying a McDonalds or a coal mine. ...uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but the joke isn't "Now the capitalism robot has destroyed the sacred institution of the shopping mall but we need to keep supporting it" it's "Now the capitalism robot has destroyed a large building and killed all of its inhabitants but we need to keep supporting it". The fact that it landed on a mall is just quick shorthand for "it just killed a bunch more people", the type of building isn't particularly important so long as it's one that has a lot of people in it.
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Nov 23, 2021 23:05
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Yeah capitalism is a unfeeling, uncaring force that causes insane amounts of suffering and death yet we keep bending over backwards to prop it up and justify the lives it destroys. That's it, that's the point. Why you would choose to fixate on the mall of all things is very strange. This is even more straightforward than that sealion comic that caused another big dumb slapfight a few pages back.
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Nov 23, 2021 23:12
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IShallRiseAgain posted:No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. i regret to inform you that you are one of those people that thinks they are very smart but are actually very dumb
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Nov 23, 2021 23:39
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The free market destroyed this mall and its very bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKyCSbaP_K8
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Nov 23, 2021 23:54
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No, I think you'll find that the point is that if you're going to build a giant robot, you need to make sure it doesn't have wobbly limbs, and you definitely want to keep it away from retail spaces. Obviously.
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Nov 23, 2021 23:57
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IShallRiseAgain posted:No, I get the point, but they chose the wrong thing to make the point. Nobody except for maybe some old people care that the free market destroyed malls, and its not really a negative that they are dying out. There are plenty of legitimately good things that the free market destroyed which people actually care about. It might be hard to remember, but malls only died recently. I'm pretty sure that cartoon was made in 2008. Why? Cause I'm pretty sure the signature has 2008 there, and the subprime mortgage thing that happened that year made a lot of people start questioning this whole "free markets" thing. But back then malls were big places full of people. They weren't even dying yet, teenagers were hanging out in them still, so much that they often had age-enforced curfews. If you were going to have an area where people probably were most of the time, you'd say "the mall." People actually openly worried about terrorist attacks on malls, since you could usually find them pretty full and since they were a shopping center, they were lax on security. So, reading this comic as though it's saying "capitalism is bad because it killed the mall" is literally taking it out of context. Malls were not dead when this cartoon was drawn.
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Nov 24, 2021 00:03
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https://www.youtube.com/c/AdamSomething Adam Something's channel is really good if you want some good videos on urban planning and how good it'd be if there were less cars and better public transportation available to people.
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Nov 24, 2021 01:04
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I don’t appreciate the cruel anti-mecha message of that comic.
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Nov 24, 2021 05:44
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KingKalamari posted:...uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but the joke isn't "Now the capitalism robot has destroyed the sacred institution of the shopping mall but we need to keep supporting it" it's "Now the capitalism robot has destroyed a large building and killed all of its inhabitants but we need to keep supporting it". The fact that it landed on a mall is just quick shorthand for "it just killed a bunch more people", the type of building isn't particularly important so long as it's one that has a lot of people in it.
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Nov 24, 2021 05:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bhzuitLM5w
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Nov 24, 2021 10:34
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Jamie Faith posted:This but unironically. I mean malls still exist and I still like going but the “community hub” idea and the big malls trying to be Disney world basically is long gone. Sydin posted:Yeah capitalism is a unfeeling, uncaring force that causes insane amounts of suffering and death yet we keep bending over backwards to prop it up and justify the lives it destroys. That's it, that's the point. Why you would choose to fixate on the mall of all things is very strange. This is even more straightforward than that sealion comic that caused another big dumb slapfight a few pages back. Goons are goons and not good at reading context clues.
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Nov 24, 2021 12:40
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I mean malls still exist and I still like going but the “community hub” idea and the big malls trying to be Disney world basically is long gone. tell that to American Dream, which opened 2 years ago after the construction lied dormant for over a decade
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Nov 24, 2021 12:45
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WEM still exists for all that we may have opinions on it or its quality of function.
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Nov 24, 2021 14:31
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Last month my family was in town and we needed some time to kill between things we were doing so we went to a local mall. It was a bunch of stores all selling the same things plus a couple of repeat stores.
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Nov 24, 2021 15:03
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suddenly my sealion derail doesn't seem so bad
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Nov 24, 2021 16:25
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Its only a matter of time before someone draws a derailmonster comic.
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Nov 24, 2021 16:34
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Pachylad posted:suddenly my sealion derail doesn't seem so bad In this essay, I will show that the Star Wars Prequels can be seen as a symbolic cautionary tale about the death of the American Mall, represented by the Jedi, a powerful but arguably problematic group whose omnipresence and adjacency to government exposes a deep rot in the structures underpinning the Old Republic...
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Nov 24, 2021 18:32
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stillvisions posted:In this essay, I will show that the Star Wars Prequels can be seen as a symbolic cautionary tale about the death of the American Mall, represented by the Jedi, a powerful but arguably problematic group whose omnipresence and adjacency to government exposes a deep rot in the structures underpinning the Old Republic... I saw Zac Snyder wearing a Star Wars shirt in a mall
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Nov 24, 2021 18:39
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Violet_Sky posted:I saw Zac Snyder wearing a Star Wars shirt in a mall He was going into the Ayn Rand store. His was perfect.
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Nov 24, 2021 18:50
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Alaois posted:tell that to American Dream, which opened 2 years ago after the construction lied dormant for over a decade
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Nov 24, 2021 21:28
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Pachylad posted:suddenly my sealion derail doesn't seem so bad Really odd how this thread mostly centered on videos critiquing and analyzing art, media, and video games isn’t good at parsing political cartoons.
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Nov 24, 2021 21:39
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Pachylad posted:suddenly my sealion derail doesn't seem so bad Nuns with Guns posted:Really odd how this thread mostly centered on videos critiquing and analyzing art, media, and video games isn’t good at parsing political cartoons.
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Nov 24, 2021 21:46
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Nuns with Guns posted:Really odd how this thread mostly centered on videos critiquing and analyzing art, media, and video games isn’t good at parsing political cartoons.
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Nov 24, 2021 22:11
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The United States posted:It wasn't a good political cartoon. You have to try to misinterpret it the way it was. It's honestly amazing someone looked at that and went "so this cartoonist is mad that malls are dead"
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Nov 24, 2021 23:14
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The United States posted:It wasn't a good political cartoon. On the other hand, there hasn’t been a good political cartoon since they stopped using the woodcut relief mass printing method. Ghostlight posted:to be fair, the thread is mostly centred on watching videos critiquing and analysing art, media, and video games; not doing critique and analysis on art, media, and video games. That is the tricky bit, I suppose.
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Nov 24, 2021 23:30
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muscles like this! posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iji6xzorcqc Definitely a fake show, probably to everyone's relief. I can't place his name but I'm 100% certain that guy's friend with the fauxhawk is an actor. I recognized him immediately.
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Nov 24, 2021 23:45
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"They have to know personal details about Pink? AND THEY DO KNOW PERSONAL DETAILS ABOUT PINK?!" absolutely killed me
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Nov 25, 2021 00:00
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man, league of legends is really branching out all over the place huh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNj5O-cxvY&hd=1 no stop stay away, don't touch it max lest it infect you too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M1J-_BRHD0&hd=1
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Nov 25, 2021 01:46
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Yeah it sucks, I want to see as little of Riot as possible most days.
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Nov 25, 2021 01:57
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I'm gonna try their rpg... without paying for it.
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Nov 25, 2021 01:58
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yeah it's a monkey's paw thing, the game looks really really good and the cannons are probably some of the best people to be heading a project like that, it just really sucks that they're working for riot of all people
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Nov 25, 2021 01:59
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