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rand's usage of balefire was in fact the completely appropriate amount of balefire always be balefiring is my motto
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SerSpook posted:rand's usage of balefire was in fact the completely appropriate amount of balefire Always Be CBalefiring Also if you can't balefire things, why did natrims barrow get balefired?
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Dec 9, 2021 00:30
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Gnoman posted:Sanderson's said that he believed this was the case until Jordan told him directly that he was wrong. Huh yeah I never knew this until now either. Makes the taboo of using it kind of weird then.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:31
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A Always B Balefire C Chumps Who is a chump? Anyone who gets balefired!
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CainFortea posted:Always I'm gonna balefire this post to spare you the embarrassment
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:A Always 
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Dec 9, 2021 00:32
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MegaZeroX posted:Huh yeah I never knew this until now either. Makes the taboo of using it kind of weird then. Well no, because too much balefire still fucks up the pattern. Although since that's the Dark One's entire goal, why not get your minions to balefire the poo poo out of everything?
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MegaZeroX posted:Huh yeah I never knew this until now either. Makes the taboo of using it kind of weird then. the taboo is because it straight up tears apart reality
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Dec 9, 2021 00:32
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Hollismason posted:How does balefire even work. Its explained that it erases it from the pattern and then travels back in time to erase what was done. I dunno the description is really weird and Rand just uses it all the goddamn time. Imagine putting a flame to the middle of a length of thread. It severs the thread and the flame, depending on its intensity, burns the thread away up its length in either direction. Ever tried putting a lighter against a sock and watching all the fuzz burn off? You might only really damage one or two threads, but the effect spreads and erases the surrounding chaff. Do it enough times, though, and the sock itself will char, burn, or tear.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:34
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CainFortea posted:Well no, because too much balefire still fucks up the pattern. Although since that's the Dark One's entire goal, why not get your minions to balefire the poo poo out of everything? Most of the minions are under the impression they're just out to conquer the world and rule reality. Its only really Ishamael who's on the same page as TDO in the books.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:34
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Zore posted:Most of the minions are under the impression they're just out to conquer the world and rule reality. Its only really Ishamael who's on the same page as TDO in the books. Actually even he is wrong. He wants oblivion, that's not what the dark one is after.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:36
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Barreft posted:I'm pretty sure it's been revealed only like 300 pages were fully written, and the rest Sanderson had to write it all in. I know Ghenji/Verin Sedai/most of Egwene in TGS/and some of the prologues + RJ's quick ending were all written. Stephen King's excuse is cocaine. What was RJ on?
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Dec 9, 2021 00:47
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CainFortea posted:Well no, because too much balefire still fucks up the pattern. Although since that's the Dark One's entire goal, why not get your minions to balefire the poo poo out of everything? I think (from memory of the books and sort of just random thoughts) that balefire won't necessarily break the Wheel. Enough balefire will cause the Pattern to unravel (locally or entirely), but the Wheel will re-weave a new Pattern. I think Moiraine warns Rand that too much balefire and he may find that the Pattern will weave him out of being the DR or set the Dark One free. That might seem great for the Dark One, but it doesn't cause the annihilation of the Wheel itself which is his true goal. For some reason, the Dragon alone can do that.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:47
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I'm re-reading the books for the first time since I stopped in the 90's. I'm on book 5 and it's starting to become a slog, but I know it gets better so I'm soldiering on. I was wondering if anyone knew about Rand's powers at the end of the story. Is his power a unique occurrence in the history of the wheel or something that has occurred before? There seems to be zero info about it, just leaving it open for speculation.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:51
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IMO precision balefiring of bad guys is fine but using it to slice a city in half at belly button height is not fine.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:53
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withak posted:IMO precision balefiring of bad guys is fine but using it to slice a city in half at belly button height is not fine. no amount of balefire is too much balefire need to turn on the light? balefire whoever turned off the light last, until the light was never turned off this is the al'thor creed
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Dec 9, 2021 00:54
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CainFortea posted:I don't even have any great enemies and i'd love to balefire some poo poo. Balefire mosquitos out of existence
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To be fair to Rand, any of the Forsaken he doesn't balefire keeps coming back. It's when you switch the balefire mode from "precision sniper weapon" to WMD that things get dicey.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:13
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The best part about balefire is that it proves the Forsaken were never really in it to help the Dark One destroy the world (except my main man Moridin) but just kinda made up some poo poo to string him along. 12 year old me could never figure out why the Dark One didn't order the Forsaken and Dreadlords to just balefire everything, all the time, until the Pattern collapsed.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:14
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Umbra Dubium posted:Stephen King's excuse is cocaine. Horny
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:The best part about balefire is that it proves the Forsaken were never really in it to help the Dark One destroy the world (except my main man Moridin) but just kinda made up some poo poo to string him along. Other way around. TDO promised them immortality and rule, none of them worked out that that was never on the table because they were just too selfish and greedy.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:16
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Few possible gang tags submitted for feedback:
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Dec 9, 2021 01:27
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i think the gang tags need more balefire tbh
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Dec 9, 2021 01:32
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SerSpook posted:i think the gang tags need more balefire tbh I'm waiting until the end of the season before making more, I need more raw material
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Dec 9, 2021 01:39
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Yeah I don't get Moridins deal because it seems like he's connected to the true source and just using it all the time which I guess is different from saidin and saidar , but I dunno I have the feeling he's a forsaken , but they haven't revealed who he actually is.
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Hamelekim posted:I'm re-reading the books for the first time since I stopped in the 90's. I'm on book 5 and it's starting to become a slog, but I know it gets better so I'm soldiering on. It's treated as a sort of "reward" for being the Dragon. Everything else they have to do sucks and is horrible, so they get to not have to worry about the little stuff anymore. They never go into it as the books end, so that's how I saw it even if it's never fully explained. There's a lot of theories about the woman Aviendha meets on her second trip to Rhuidean, and one is that she has similar powers.
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Hollismason posted:Yeah I don't get Moridins deal because it seems like he's connected to the true source and just using it all the time which I guess is different from saidin and saidar , but I dunno I have the feeling he's a forsaken , but they haven't revealed who he actually is. it is kind of annoying that there's a magic system referred to as The One Power for several books and then it turns out to be a misnomer because there's Another Power
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it is kind of annoying that there's a magic system referred to as The One Power for several books and then it turns out to be a misnomer because there's Another Power that other power is actually the true power as well and the other one is fake
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Dec 9, 2021 01:48
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SerSpook posted:that other power is actually the true power as well and the other one is fake And also the One Power comes from the True Source.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:52
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Pleads posted:And also the One Power comes from the True Source. And the True Power comes from The Taint
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hehehehehehe
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CainFortea posted:And the True Power comes from The Taint lol
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CainFortea posted:And the True Power comes from The Taint
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CainFortea posted:And the True Power comes from The Taint
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:it is kind of annoying that there's a magic system referred to as The One Power for several books and then it turns out to be a misnomer because there's Another Power It's a little like this. 
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Dec 9, 2021 02:51
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Reading Path of Daggers and something is definitely up with the Green Aes Sedai Verin. She's using some sort of weird compulsion thing on other Aes Sedai. I'm only 2 chapters into Path of Daggers. They need to hurry up and get to Mat because seriously.
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Hollismason posted:Reading Path of Daggers and something is definitely up with the Green Aes Sedai Verin. She's using some sort of weird compulsion thing on other Aes Sedai. Verin's a Brown Aes Sedai. Practically the only one who gets significant page time, in fact.
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jng2058 posted:Verin's a Brown Aes Sedai. Practically the only one who gets significant page time, in fact. Well something is definitely up with her since she is using weird compulsions on Aes Sedai. I keep forgetting she is Brown Aja.
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Balefire is my best friend y'all. I love Balefire
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CainFortea posted:And the True Power comes from The Taint New thread title plz.
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