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euphronius posted:Look where Cato's son died for gods sake. what the gently caress are you talking about he died in the hunger games before he could have kids Single and LOVING IT posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1469321887402635267 the vaccines are good but I don't get why they think they're so good that they're a replacement for masks inside a busy restaurant.
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Elea posted:Wakes up nice and vaccinated, starts mildly spreading a breakthrough infection to an 70 year old grandma raising her dead daughters children. Covid is over baby. That’s not possible https://twitter.com/albertbourla/status/1377618480527257606?s=21
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:what the gently caress are you talking about he died in the hunger games before he could have kids theyre liberals op
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 1,280 o7Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:this is horseshit and was ripped apart by med twitter days ago btw It says all that in the article, though.
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i work at a college and in the past week i've gotten notices that two of my students have died. this is loving bizarre. 7 years of working here and this has never happened
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How do you even find a stealth variant without doing, like, full genetic sequencing? Like as a non-science knower I was under the impression the way you diagnose pathogenic diseases was basically, in order of increasing accuracy 1. Match the patient's symptoms to the symptom profiles of known diseases. If the patient presents with the symptoms of disease X, then it's probably safe to assume they have disease X. 2. Do a diagnostic test that specifically tests for one or more known diseases that match the patient's symptoms. If the patient presents a sore throat, do a throat culture and see if they have strep. 3. YOLO bitches, full genetic sequencing or whatever. Like I assume we're not doing 3 on the regular, and the PCR stuff would be 2, no? So if there was a stealth variant going around, how would we even know? Wouldn't it just be a case of example 1 above going unreported/uncommented on? LIke the whole thing with the UK having tons of people presenting the symptoms of COVID but popping negative?
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Serf posted:i work at a college and in the past week i've gotten notices that two of my students have died. this is loving bizarre. 7 years of working here and this has never happened Were they unhealthy? They probably had existing conditions. And even if they didn't, I'm sure their cases were mild.
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it’s worse than being silent on it - they say ‘face coverings are recommended if you aren’t fully vaccinated’
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Serf posted:i work at a college and in the past week i've gotten notices that two of my students have died. this is loving bizarre. 7 years of working here and this has never happened
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https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1469326271331004422?s=20 And a retweet from her https://twitter.com/JVergales/status/1469321627955511299?s=20
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Thoguh posted:it’s worse than being silent on it - they say ‘face coverings are recommended if you aren’t fully vaccinated’ The only context in which “face coverings” rather than respirators should be used is when you are eating ortolan buntings.
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the local paper is still saying has or doesn't have an "underlying condition" when reporting covid deaths because that makes the death less sad!
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Here's the third Great Barrington person I don't report much https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1468119973315100676?s=20
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:How do you even find a stealth variant without doing, like, full genetic sequencing? Like as a non-science knower I was under the impression the way you diagnose pathogenic diseases was basically, in order of increasing accuracy If you're talking about the omicron thing, it still comes up on PCR as COVID. It just doesn't have a genetic change that makes it easy to identify it specifically as omicron in a PCR test. If we're talking a full stealth variant that doesn't show up on the existing PCR tests at all, somebody would have to notice it and develop a new test for it.
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:mask 😡
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Kreeblah posted:If we're talking a full stealth variant that doesn't show up on the existing PCR tests at all, somebody would have to notice it and develop a new test for it. Yeah the start of something like that is “pneumonia of unknown origin detected in <city>”.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:How do you even find a stealth variant without doing, like, full genetic sequencing? Like as a non-science knower I was under the impression the way you diagnose pathogenic diseases was basically, in order of increasing accuracy There have already been PCR-undetectable variants in Finland and France, I assume they diagnosed it by other means. IIRC, China was using CT before they had reliable tests. The "Stealth" Omicron just isn't showing up as Omicron on the variant-PCR, it's still identifiable as COVID. Given that it will dominate in a weeks anyway, I think it just makes it difficult to determine how fast that's actually happening.
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wild, that matches the boston waste water data spike too. this is one of the carolinas right?
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:wonder when UKHSA will publish this data: nothing but absolute mouth breathers in the replies as far as the eye can see this country is full of belligerent, hoglike morons and I can't loving stand it
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:How do you even find a stealth variant without doing, like, full genetic sequencing? Like as a non-science knower I was under the impression the way you diagnose pathogenic diseases was basically, in order of increasing accuracy if some sentinel testing operation is doing full sequencing on the right kind of sample (spread out geographically idk I'm not an epidemiologist) then you find the regions of variation between the new strain and the old strain then either make a primer set targeted at the region of variation so PCR only amplifies the new strain. if you want to have prevention of false negatives, you can look for restriction enzyme cleavage sites in the region of variation, target primer sets around that so that the region is amplified on both new and old strains, then apply your restriction enzyme which will cleave only the new strain while leaving the old strain intact. you can then run them out on gels and see the shorter strands of the new strain speed ahead and differentiate themselves from the slower, longer, older strain's amplified RNA. at least that's one way you could do it, might be some new fangled approach that's faster. the point is that you really only gotta do a full sequence on a new strain once and then identification is just a matter of cranking out primers and sending them to places that do PCR testing
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mod sassinator posted:wild, that matches the boston waste water data spike too. this is one of the carolinas right? No it's Maine GreenBuckanneer posted:https://wgme.com/news/local/maine-sets-a-new-single-day-record-for-covid-19-infections
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Testvan posted:the local paper is still saying has or doesn't have an "underlying condition" when reporting covid deaths I'm a young and healthy mid 30s person but because I have asthma I'd be considered as having an 'underlying condition' which makes it sound like I'm just constantly on the brink of death
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Thoguh posted:it’s worse than being silent on it - they say ‘face coverings are recommended if you aren’t fully vaccinated’ Not to mention vaccinated people are still pretty easily infected! Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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also holy loving poo poo this is WEIRD https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/10/fauci-says-omicron-specific-version-of-covid-19-vaccines-may-not-be-necessary/ quote:Fauci says Omicron-specific version of Covid-19 vaccines may not be necessary so in the last 48 hours we have gone from the CEOs of every vaccine manufacturer explicitly saying "Yes we can and will make omicron boosters in 100 days, this is what we're good at let us get to work and we WILL fix it" to then saying "You know we don't think omicron boosters are necessary and are going to wait for more data before proceeding" now Fauci is agreeing and saying maybe we don't need boosters what the gently caress something is up--the boosters are dead in the water folks. do not pin hopes on an omicron booster. they will never see the light of day
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so glad there's a bunch of braphogs throwing a christmas party in the office today and we're not allowed to enforce our goddamned mask policy, so I get to sit here and listen to them hack and wheeze all day I work for a health org sitting here screaming "DEATH" like the mutants at the end of Heavy Metal
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You'll all be happy to hear that we're reevaluating the ban on mink farms in early 2022. The current ban is set to be lifted on January 1, 2023.
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Platystemon posted:Yeah the start of something like that is “pneumonia of unknown origin detected in <city>”. Yeah. I think a lot of people forget that this is how this all got going. Some dude in China had a patient with pneumonia and was like, "Hmmm. This looks weird." And then we were off to the races.
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mod sassinator posted:also holy loving poo poo this is WEIRD What could this even mean?
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Testvan posted:lol lmao but where are the hospitalizations but where are the deaths but how do you know their deaths weren't mild
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Harsh life, mild death
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