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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
PCR testing sites in Vermont open up appointments at different intervals. Some don't post appointments until a couple days before. So right now there's only a couple sites in the state with appointments for next week and no way to know if that's because they haven't been posted or because they're already full.

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Kylaer
Aug 4, 2007
I'm SURE walking around in a respirator at all times in an (even more) OPEN BIDENing society is definitely not a recipe for disaster and anyone that's not cool with getting harassed by CHUDs are cave dwellers. I've got good brain!

Kim Bong Chill posted:

I want to earnestly engage with this crazy thread for a moment. What actual, real plan does anyone think the US can really do on its own to combat Covid? Or perhaps the world without destroying the economy?

I really want to hear real answers.

Put an N95 or better on every face that needs to be sharing air with people outside its immediate family. Elastomeric respirators are ideal because they're easier to wear properly than an N95.

This means no restaurants, no bars, no swimming pools. Pretty much everything else can continue uninterrupted. You can work in a respirator. You can go to the store in a respirator. You can exercise in the gym in a respirator. You can spend time with your friends in a respirator. I do all of these things. It is an annoyance, compared to living life 2019 style, but it is entirely doable.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I like how people who claim China is lying are also accidentally claiming that China must have the most amazing healthcare system that's ever existed

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Kim Bong Chill posted:

Too much relies on people working. Would you have everyone not work?

I already said it's not possible, what more do you want me to say?

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

this forever, perfect excuse to never see a person's face as long as i breathe

Penisaurus Sex posted:

An initial 28 day lockdown with a actual enforcement to get community spread under control.

Then heavily restrict interstate travel, mandated 21 day quarantine upon entry to the US, a mandated national vaccination campaign, mask mandates + supply from the USPS of a minimum N95 level mask, and a robust test/trace/isolation program.

Whether that's possible or not is an ideological question.

also

if people are worried about the economy, as a concern troll, note that it only impacts financial institutions and corporations who give out the jobs, they can withhold or create jobs at will but that requires concessions to the beyond asinine enormous lump sum corporates take away each year. The government literally makes up and prints money whenever it wants, the economy isn't the problem and is just a catch all, inflation is the bigger concern so the fed can only print so much before it gets out of control, and it will, it is inevitable so therefore the economy will fail anyways in the long run (it already did in 2009) in a capitalist model, if you're so self concerned about it as a own to the sensible reason of lock downs and public health that is now deeply politicized, you're a loving idiot kim bong chill~ troll harder

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Kim Bong Chill posted:

Too much relies on people working. Would you have everyone not work?

Yes. The economy is just a fake idea. We all shouldn't be hastening the end of the world by consuming all of the resources and polluting our biosphere.

Put the 'economy' on hold for a while.

AzzaccaRye
Dec 9, 2020

Are we still allowed to say "free larry?"

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
Changes in COVID Hospitalizations and ICU stays since 12/1
pre:
 

state	COVID H	COVID ICU
IL	1047	253
OH	788	187
NC	692	113
IN	687	145
NJ	568	91
MO	476	95
PA	441	72
MD	434	78
MA	319	87
CA	308	48
WI	304	43
KY	302	65
TN	227	58
MI	215	103
CT	209	62
OK	208	55
TX	207	13
KS	204	67
VA	180	29
FL	156	34
NY	134	67
CO	94	-68
AL	86	12
GA	84	46
DE	82	-1
IA	82	-6
SC	77	33
MN	74	-22
NH	73	26
RI	66	18
WV	64	44
AR	54	46
AZ	53	19
ME	51	18
NE	49	-6
NM	48	10
NV	33	7
MS	32	14
SD	24	16
ID	20	-10
HI	-2	-1
VT	-11	-3
AK	-16	-7
ND	-17	0
WY	-18	11
UT	-23	3
LA	-31	-15
OR	-32	20
WA	-60	-10
MT	-62	-9

				

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

covid thread how do i get a booster nobody has ever bothered to tell me how this stuff works

Kim Bong Chill
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

Louisgod posted:

It's clear you don't care to have a legitimate discussion and instead rely on antagonizing for whatever reason but any answer outside a zero-covid policy won't do anything to stem the current state of where we are in the US. The US can't do anything to combat COVID on its own because we lack any semblance of leadership willing to make difficult decisions, along with the will of the people to care for each other, which is a cultural deficit that will never be recovered. Biden et al are doing the absolute bare minimum as anything more would affect the profit margins of businesses.

It's been said lots of times but look to China for a successful model that's tamped infections and deaths all while managing to keep their economy intact. What solutions do YOU have?

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it. So learn to roll the dice

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Kim Bong Chill posted:

I want to earnestly engage with this crazy thread for a moment. What actual, real plan does anyone think the US can really do on its own to combat Covid? Or perhaps the world without destroying the economy?

I really want to hear real answers.

If only there was a high profile densely populated socialist country that had locked down early and put in zero-Covid policies in a way that saved the economy

That way we could copy what they did

I wonder what that country could be

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Mar 24, 2005



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Kim Bong Chill
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

NeonPunk posted:

Yes. The economy is just a fake idea. We all shouldn't be hastening the end of the world by consuming all of the resources and polluting our biosphere.

Put the 'economy' on hold for a while.

The world has ample resources. It’s a matter of cost.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Kim Bong Chill posted:

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it. So learn to roll the dice

lazy sophomoric thinking

AOCIA
Nov 29, 2021

by sebmojo

Kim Bong Chill posted:

It would be uncharacteristically un-ccp of them to tell the truth

freeeeee larry

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Kim Bong Chill posted:

Too much relies on people working. Would you have everyone not work?

:laugh: its so funny to me how this is impossible for people to imagine

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Kim Bong Chill posted:

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it. So learn to roll the dice

Yup, that's the answer, please keep rolling the dice with covid. Go live your life like it's 2019. Go gently caress around.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

the bitcoin of weed posted:

covid thread how do i get a booster nobody has ever bothered to tell me how this stuff works

Are you an American? Just go to a pharmacy and say you're there for your first shot.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

:laugh: its so funny to me how this is impossible for people to imagine

lol

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Kim Bong Chill posted:

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it. So learn to roll the dice

ridiculous, relying on other countries to be united and agree is unrealistic, and as others have already pointed out, there's one specific country that seemingly has found the correct way to tackle a pandemic yet you seem to shy away from that option for whatever reason.

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

the bitcoin of weed posted:

covid thread how do i get a booster nobody has ever bothered to tell me how this stuff works

vaccines.gov

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015

Kim Bong Chill posted:

It would be uncharacteristically un-ccp of them to tell the truth

do you believe Japan is lying also?

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Kim Bong Chill posted:

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it. So learn to roll the dice

WHAT ABOUT THE TIME YOU SHOVED SOMEONE'S WEED PIPE UP YOUR rear end THE MOMENT WE GOT PULLED OVER

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Kim Bong Chill posted:

The world has ample resources. It’s a matter of cost.

This is wrong.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

the bitcoin of weed posted:

covid thread how do i get a booster nobody has ever bothered to tell me how this stuff works

It's easier now, you can just bring your original card and go "I'm here for my third shot" and they won't turn you away anymore (mostly)

Kim Bong Chill
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

Louisgod posted:

ridiculous, relying on other countries to be united and agree is unrealistic, and as others have already pointed out, there's one specific country that seemingly has found the correct way to tackle a pandemic yet you seem to shy away from that option for whatever reason.

Which country? It’s not some tiny little spit of land in the pacific is it? Full of little birds?

Kim Bong Chill
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

Wrex Ruckus posted:

do you believe Japan is lying also?

The duplicitous Japanese and their fancy cars

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

atriptothebeach
Oct 27, 2020

Kim Bong Chill posted:

I want to earnestly engage with this crazy thread for a moment. What actual, real plan does anyone think the US can really do on its own to combat Covid? Or perhaps the world without destroying the economy?

I really want to hear real answers.

The moral courage by leaders to ignore and minimize the death cultists.

Mask requirements, vaccine requirements, contact tracing, and going back to lockdowns until an area is under control, like the steps necessary in reacting to pandemics are not some unknown thing.

~the economy~ is being smashed by capitalists and the disease no matter what measures will be taken. to be automatically against trying to save lives by worrying about ruining future profits you’re taking the worst, most vile position, imo.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

WampaLord posted:

Yup, that's the answer, please keep rolling the dice with covid. Go live your life like it's 2019. Go gently caress around.

with complicated scientific instruments, data analysis and modern medicine, what we need is a leap of faith instead to make it all work - a moron

AOCIA
Nov 29, 2021

by sebmojo
go be racist somewhere else

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015

Kim Bong Chill posted:

The duplicitous Japanese and their fancy cars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
idiot: hey folks how do we stop covid
me: hm maybe take a zero covid approach and make an effort to stop the spread by tracking infections, implementing actual quarantines, mandate masks and use existing resources to implement policy instead of leaving it up to individuals to make their own, flawed decisions
idiot, in extreme princess bride voice: inconceivable!

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
Every tv / streaming show break includes new footage of medical personnel either intubating or running a code on a covid patient. If footage of carnage turned the US against the Vietnam war it should be used the same way here. It should not be realistically possible to ignore the scope of human suffering that inaction and apathy is causing.

Serious grants for nursing / medical practitioners. The long term effects of the pandemic in terms of staffing brain drain and burnout are going to kneecap an already strained system when the baby boomers all start to have serious medical issues (unless covid gets them already).

Id like to see some kind of air scrubber units present in all major places where people congregate. Government funded, who cares. Schools and restaurants especially if you want to keep them open.

Probably more. Off to chart on covid patients!

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I've said it before, but if you're in the US, then Walmart is absolutely the easiest, most hassle-free way to get any kind of booster shot you want. Make an appointment. Bring your card. They'll ask you which shot you want and then give you that one. You can also go without bringing your card and they won't turn you away.

CVS, Walgreens, etc. tend to be a little more annoying because the individual stores may only have one particular vaccine brand in stock, so you'll have to plan your appointment around that. As far as I can tell, every Walmart has all three vaccines available and ready to go.

Kim Bong Chill
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

AOCIA posted:

go be racist somewhere else

Lol woke crew checking in. Jesus Christ I wasn’t being racist but thanks for the verbal slap on the wrist mom

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Kim Bong Chill posted:

My answer is simple: there isn’t anything we can do if there isn’t world wide unity on it.

That's not an answer, that's your assumption.

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon

Kim Bong Chill posted:

It would be uncharacteristically un-ccp of them to tell the truth

Comrade Xi please deal with this scum

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Kim Bong Chill posted:

The duplicitous Japanese and their fancy cars

ah so you're racist, your stance makes so much more sense

AOCIA
Nov 29, 2021

by sebmojo

Kim Bong Chill posted:

Lol woke crew checking in. Jesus Christ I wasn’t being racist but thanks for the verbal slap on the wrist mom

tell us again about the perfidious oriental

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Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Kim Bong Chill posted:

The duplicitous Japanese and their fancy cars

lol look at this jingoistic gently caress

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