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seaborgium posted:It's fine, she just needed to be more open about what she was expecting from her partner. Consent is key here, obviously Perrin was into it but a quick conversation would have saved a lot of hassle. Scene 1: Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time Scene 2: The characters actually talk to each other Scene 3: The end
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RC Cola posted:Yeah it's called being a hypothetical piece of poo poo I just go with "piece of poo poo". They're not poly, they're just lying so they can sleep around. I know a couple of healthy poly situations but they're sadly more rare than assholes. Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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LMAO at hating a show so much because not everyone is white that you photoshop fake articles to convince everyone that everyone hates it too: The real article: 
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Can't wait for the new episode tonight!
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The best part of the wheel of time show is that it pisses off racists and homophobes tbqh
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I would say the best part is the show itself. Pissing off The judds is just a very nice bonus
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RC Cola posted:The best part of the wheel of time show is that it pisses off racists and homophobes tbqh Maybe not rhe best part for me, but definitely right up there haha. Eat poo poo ya weird nazis.
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Dec 16, 2021 19:04
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Jaxyon posted:I just go with "piece of poo poo". They're not poly, they're just lying so they can sleep around. I think they meant hypocritical which, yeah.
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RC Cola posted:The best part of the wheel of time show is that it pisses off racists and homophobes tbqh Nah, it's that it's very, very good
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Nah, it's that it's very, very good Yeah my partner is super excited about the show and has never touched the books. Though they figured out Rand was the DR by process of elimination(he's the only one they're not actively setting up to be it, so therefore he must be it)
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eke out posted:all saldaean women do is have hooked hawk-like noses and lie Haha. "any saldaean female born after 980 AE can't have a normal relationship... all they know is jealousy, throw they knives, old tongue, be hook-nosed, and lie."
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CainFortea posted:I would say the best part is the show itself. Pissing off The judds is just a very nice bonus How are u posted:Maybe not rhe best part for me, but definitely right up there haha. Eat poo poo ya weird nazis. I like hyperbole. It is my good and strong friend. But fair enough. On Dragon Reborn re-read. I really dislike the Nynaeve / Egwene catty power play that happens all book. I hope the show handles it better. Elayne says it best "If one of you says up the other says down". Is it just early signs of Egwene needing to be right about everything and in control of every situation? I'm reading it a bit as her Seanchan PTSD being taken out on Nynaeve, and Nynaeve feeding off Egwene's negative emotions and reflecting them back at her. Currently at where they meet Bain and Chiad. Egwene is very mad that Nynaeve offered to heal someone. Which is a core part of Nynaeve's being since Egwene was a child. You'd think she would know that Nynaeve would heal literally anyone at the expense of her own life if need be. Someone else give me your take please. Also Elayne is great in the early books
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They're teens and twenty somethings so they are insufferable sometimes, op.
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Yeah, Egwene and Nynaeve are stepping all over each other because their relationship has undergone a massive upheaval. The series starts with Nynaeve in a position of authority over Egwene, but by Dragon they're peers and Egwene is actively fighting slipping into her old dynamic while Nynaeve is trying to keep it going.
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th3t00t posted:** insert that meme about how much shorter a story would be if they just did "x"** They are condensing a lot of stuff for the show, so it would make sense to have them actually talk to each other for this plotline.
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Zore posted:Yeah, Egwene and Nynaeve are stepping all over each other because their relationship has undergone a massive upheaval. The series starts with Nynaeve in a position of authority over Egwene, but by Dragon they're peers and Egwene is actively fighting slipping into her old dynamic while Nynaeve is trying to keep it going. I appreciate Elayne constantly trying to mediate the two of them. She's just so exasperated.
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Zore posted:Yeah, Egwene and Nynaeve are stepping all over each other because their relationship has undergone a massive upheaval. The series starts with Nynaeve in a position of authority over Egwene, but by Dragon they're peers and Egwene is actively fighting slipping into her old dynamic while Nynaeve is trying to keep it going. Yeah there's a scene in I think FoH where it's explicitly made clear that Egwene is the lead in their relationship, reversing their dynamic.
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RC Cola posted:Min rules. I didn't read her as non binary but I'll look at her through that lens on this reread. I wouldn't care one way or another. It doesn't change anything in the story  RC Cola posted:Yeah it's called being a hypothetical piece of poo poo
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RC Cola posted:I appreciate Elayne constantly trying to mediate the two of them. She's just so exasperated. Coming up again when she's trying to mediate between aes sedai, seafolk, kin...and one particular time during that she's like gently caress it, just, gently caress it. "For once, she had no desire whatsoever to try to calm things down" or something like that.
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RC Cola posted:I appreciate Elayne constantly trying to mediate the two of them. She's just so exasperated. Also some amusing foreshadowing for when Elayne herself is butting heads with Nynaeve in a couple books time. silvergoose posted:Coming up again when she's trying to mediate between aes sedai, seafolk, kin...and one particular time during that she's like gently caress it, just, gently caress it. "For once, she had no desire whatsoever to try to calm things down" or something like that. And that time, when she just loses her poo poo at the Aes Sedai in Ebou Dar, is one of her crowning moments of triumph. By forcing the issue and standing up to the others, she proved herself to be a real Aes Sedai...at which point they all deferred to her, since she was stronger than any of them in the Power. Aes Sedai power dynamics are weird, yo.
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RC Cola posted:I appreciate Elayne constantly trying to mediate the two of them. She's just so exasperated. Elayne has always been a top contender for my favorite character. She may be responsible for my lifelong obsession with Competent Action-Oriented Princess/Noblewoman/Heiress types.
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Sanguinia posted:Elayne has always been a top contender for my favorite character. She may be responsible for my lifelong obsession with Competent Action-Oriented Princess/Noblewoman/Heiress types. Right there with you.  It was actually quite a surprise to discover how much Elayne hate there is out there among the fans, and even here in the forum.
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah there's a scene in I think FoH where it's explicitly made clear that Egwene is the lead in their relationship, reversing their dynamic. Is that the World of Dreams trolloc rape scene? silvergoose posted:Coming up again when she's trying to mediate between aes sedai, seafolk, kin...and one particular time during that she's like gently caress it, just, gently caress it. "For once, she had no desire whatsoever to try to calm things down" or something like that. Yeah, that scene was good too. jng2058 posted:Also some amusing foreshadowing for when Elayne herself is butting heads with Nynaeve in a couple books time. I was just thinking that! The circus traveling is literally the same thing, but Nynaeve and Elayne. I think that's more they are both pissed off about their situation though. And yeah I loved when Elayne finally was like "I'm the strongest loving Aes Sedai alive that isn't Nynaeve. Eat poo poo and listen to me" and they did. jng2058 posted:Right there with you. I disliked her when I was younger. She's grown on me over the years. I still really dislike how she didn't learn from her mistake about assuming plot armor for her meant she could do whatever she wanted. But she is a cool and interesting character. I also disliked the succession subplot, mostly because it didn't matter at all since Andor just catches fire and falls apart as soon as she takes the throne. She is a cool strong confidant woman though who kicks rear end and takes names. And also is bonded to the third best character in the series
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Best part of TDR is Perrin telling Faile that her name is the same as a horse
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RC Cola posted:Is that the World of Dreams trolloc rape scene? No I was talking about Egwene, who basically shuts down Nyneave hard I believe just before that.
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Jaxyon posted:No I was talking about Egwene, who basically shuts down Nyneave hard I believe just before that. Which scene? I thought that the power dynamic swap happens in the same instance of the world of dreams. Where Egwene almost makes Nynaeve drink the gross tea to cover up that she is disobeying the wise ones? I know the Trolloc rape scene also happens in the same book, I just can't place the timeline off the top of my head
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God I hope they drop all the Wonder Girls cattiness, it reeks of Jordan's issues with women
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Rarity posted:God I hope they drop all the Wonder Girls cattiness, it reeks of Jordan's issues with women Yes. Please. Or if they keep it in make Mat, Perrin, and Rand super catty anytime they are around other men please and thank you. Just Rand being super passive aggressive to Lan. May being really angry at how handsome Thom's mustaches are. Perrin just can't stand how skinny Gaul is!
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Mat internally : "look at Talmanes's well turned calves. Why aren't mine that well turned"
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Perrin gets angry that Rand's empire is bigger than his own. Thom and Julian has a little bit of the stupid cattyness, but it works for them because Jordan wrote it less annoyingly
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Dec 16, 2021 21:07
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Replace all cattiness with a forsaken scene of cattiness instead imo
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the forsaken are all catty as hell and they're better characters for it. just a bunch of petty assholes who can use magic.
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Rarity posted:God I hope they drop all the Wonder Girls cattiness, it reeks of Jordan's issues with women only if we get to keep this scene(s) 
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Johnny Joestar posted:the forsaken are all catty as hell and they're better characters for it. just a bunch of petty assholes who can use magic. I just restarted TGH on my latest re-read and i'm here to remind you that when Ishy was displaying images of the boys at the Darkfriend Social, he was very careful to make sure that none of the images of them were higher up than he is. Because it was more important to him to be higher up than them, even if it meant some of his lackys didn't get a good look at their targets.
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HA! I loving knew Moridin was Ishmael . Just kind of got it confirmed in the book and Lanfear is back as well. That does not bode well. Knife of Dreams is really good so far. The pacing is real good and things are happening in every chapter. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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Now i kind of want to re-read just Knife of Dreams over the holiday.
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Elayne is great until the Andor succession storyline starts in book 8 or 9(?) and from then on she’s awful.
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th3t00t posted:Elayne is great until the Andor succession storyline starts in book 8 or 9(?) and from then on she’s awful. Honestly she's one of my favorite characters, right up until she starts going on about the twins making her invincible because she'll give birth to healthy babies or whatever Elayne, it's a world of magic. There's probably so very many ways you could give birth to them, have them be healthy, and still be in a whole heap of trouble/mostly dead or something I think they tone that down in later books and she's good again? Been forever since I did a reread, I'm really looking forward to doing so after season 1 is over
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