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Competition tie breakers should progress through ever more exotic situations 1 OT: back or armbar 2 OT: backseat of car 3 OT: a top moving tractor trailer 4 OT: rim of volcano
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Haha Next level 
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If you're curious what the judo strike/weapons stuff looks like: Goshin Jutsu includes self-defense techniques vs grabs, strikes, sticks, knives, and guns. It was developed in the 1940s/50s to update kime no kata (below) and it's a big favourite of old grognard judo dudes. I'm absolutely not a fan of knife/gun defense, but it's worth noting that many of the knife attacks in this kata are more realistic (close thrusts, e.g.) than most of the bullshido self-defense that we see online (DUST) with swinging slashes, and that the gun defense is a bit more nuanced, too (waiting for the attacker to reach for your wallet, e.g.). I'm not defending the techniques entirely, because yeah, trying to fight a knife will just get you killed, but there has been more thought put into these than we usually see, so they're somewhat less bad. Note too that these aren't "someone is threatening you with a knife and telling you to comply" but rather the context is "the knife is coming at you." I think it's also neat that the strike defense portion includes some straight punches, which is pretty rare. This video is 30+ minutes long but the demonstration is the first 8 minutes and then the last 25 is instruction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MlGidQY-4 Kime no Kata is a nineteenth-century kneeling/standing self-defense kata, which as I understand is something of a florigellia of the even earlier ryu-jujitsu techniques for like "what if a perfidious ronin attacks you while you're at a tea ceremony" or something like that. I don't know much about it, because I don't know anyone who practices it, but it includes grabs, strikes, sword and dagger. Includes a sweet groin strike just before 3 minutes, and I'm seeing that some of the techniques in Kime no Kata overlap with those of Goshin Jutsu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN1Z8qKNfW8
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Dec 22, 2021 18:36
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I think about the knife stuff a lot like I think about martial arts in general, and that's that unless you are practicing it on a live opponent often, it's mostly theory. I think that knife video recognizes that. But I don't think I'm interested in learning to defend a knife attack unless we are going to train knives everyday for a few years. Otherwise, I'm going to try and not get in fights, and especially not in knife fights. And then in the case that I find myself unaramed against someone that pulls a knife on me with the intention of fighting me: I'll try my best. But the time spent learning knife protecting I would rather work on sport bjj.
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Dec 22, 2021 19:01
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:You dont have to go the MMA route in order to learn these concepts. Many schools teach these concepts as part of jiu jitsu classes, and many dont. Right, sorry, I meant that as two separate things.
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Dec 22, 2021 21:19
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In my perfect imaginary BJJ gym we would have something like this. One class per week on 'self-defence' run by somebody with MMA experience, and you would teach a bunch of like... grappling where you break grips and do technical standups directly into a sprint.
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Dec 23, 2021 01:33
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:In my perfect imaginary BJJ gym we would have something like this. One class per week on 'self-defence' run by somebody with MMA experience, and you would teach a bunch of like... grappling where you break grips and do technical standups directly into a sprint. My coach always says takedown defense is the most critical thing for self defense BJJ....because if you can stay standing you can run much easier.
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Dec 23, 2021 04:56
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Sherbert Hoover posted:I got dropped hard on my back with a double-leg takedown tonight and even though I kept my head forward and didn't hit the mat with it, I still felt the impact real hard in my head and neck. Am I doing something wrong? This post got lost on the previous page and I meant to try and help but got distracted by the carjitsu. It sounds like you’re saying that you got taken down and didn’t hit your head but still felt a jarring impact up your neck and head? This sounds like an issue of improperly rounding your spine as you fell. Imagine falling onto your butt with your spine vertical, and the impact that would be transmitted from the ground, straight up your spine to your head. It would feel almost the same as hitting your head on the ground. You can do the same thing if you hit the ground kinda shoulderblade-level, you can send the impact up your c-spine and ring your bell a bit. Getting everything lined up right varies with the fall and I think probably comes mostly from experience. Long and short of it is keep practicing breakfalls, trying to distribute impact over as much body area and time as you can (as in, taking .5 seconds to land in a heap will hurt less than landing all at once.)
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Dec 23, 2021 19:55
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That's exactly what happened. Thanks for the response.
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Dec 23, 2021 21:17
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yall gyms breaking over xmas? i've decided to focus on my cardio fitness during the two week break by walking up a mountain im currently living at the foot of. the other option is drinking and eating until i explode.
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Dec 24, 2021 02:07
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Marching Powder posted:yall gyms breaking over xmas? i've decided to focus on my cardio fitness during the two week break by walking up a mountain im currently living at the foot of. the other option is drinking and eating until i explode. My gym is still going but I'm not because I'm basically getting a steady stream of covid exposures
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Dec 24, 2021 02:21
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Marching Powder posted:yall gyms breaking over xmas? i've decided to focus on my cardio fitness during the two week break by walking up a mountain im currently living at the foot of. the other option is drinking and eating until i explode. Mine got covid'd, which sucks. After x mas I'll be trying to train at one guys home gym to at least get some rolls in.
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Dec 24, 2021 02:36
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ugh i forgot covid was still ravaging non-isolated shitholes. hope you guys are well over the holidays.
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The place I go to is closed one or two days but I'm gonna miss a couple more due to life stuff. I opted to eat trash and drink today so now I feel like a can of smashed butt holes. I have noticed that my shoulders are angry so I'm gonna work some shoulder stuff into my yoga. I'll probably stick to my normal exercise stuff.
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Dec 24, 2021 07:32
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CommonShore posted:If you're curious what the judo strike/weapons stuff looks like: Thanks for posting this.
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New IJF rules adjustment just landed. It begins with a bunch of league organization poo poo but I'm linking the part where Neil Adams starts talking about the actual on-mat changes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Zmpvs7S4E&t=365s It's a mix of stuff, mostly minor. 1) Redefinition that an action needs to be continuous drive and effort to get a score. If a movement goes part way, stops momentum, and then resumes, no score. 2 &3) Redefinition of wazari such that just affect the extreme fringe cases. As I understand they're just adjusting an older definition here to prevent a "well actually" situation that existed. 4) This one is weird - giving a shido for landing on both of your hands or elbows when thrown. I guess it's a safety thing. 5) Rollover coutner techniques. I don't even get it - counters get no score now if you get thrown and counter by rolling your opponent over your body. I think this is a piss-poor attempt to adjust a previous rule that made relatively little sense wrt "you can't use your landing to initiate a counter". 6) Reverse Seoi Nage is now no score and shido. Idk. 7) Gripping or touching under the belt (leg contact) is allowed in the end phase of a throw i.e. if you throw someone and they're on the ground already, you can switch your grip to the legs to finish them off or get ne waza position. 8) Collar/lapel grip called purely legal as long as it's being used to attack rather than as a defensive frame. 9) Unconventional grips must be used to throw immediately. 10) Breaking grip and not attempting to take a grip immediately is shido. 11) Retying gi/hair is allowed once per judoka per contest. The example here is specifically when it's the long dawdly fix that delays the contest. After the first time it's shido. 12) Head diving results in DQ. The examples here are of a dude using a head stand while throwing. It's pretty cringe inducing to watch actually.
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Dec 31, 2021 00:05
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Tonight I learned that everyone in the evening classes I attend thinks I smell good. I'm not sure what to do with that information.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:23
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Hah, do you use fabric softener on your gi?
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Dec 31, 2021 08:36
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Jack B Nimble posted:Hah, do you use fabric softener on your gi? I do for my spats in no gi. Haven't heard any smell reports from gi yet. Coach asked for someone who wasn't sweaty yet to show some drills. One dude was like "if you ever need someone who doesn't stink, it's always knuthgrush." And then there was a round of vigorous affirmations from the whole group and many testimonials about exactly how floral I smell. Was a little weird. Coach had me in a triangle to demonstrate a transition and said "yeah you do smell really good" while torquing on my neck. I just let out a muffled "thanks" and wondered what decisions I'd made in life to lead me to that moment.
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knuthgrush posted:I do for my spats in no gi. Haven't heard any smell reports from gi yet. Lol owns
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Dec 31, 2021 09:35
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Almost another week before the dojo opens again and I'm fiending.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:Almost another week before the dojo opens again and I'm fiending. Soon, friend! Stop walking around your house and strictly shrimp in order to get from room to room. You'll be ready!
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Dec 31, 2021 10:01
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knuthgrush posted:Tonight I learned that everyone in the evening classes I attend thinks I smell good. I'm not sure what to do with that information. Well on the plus side you're probably getting more interest from rolling partners than you would otherwise; on the minus side you've gotta tap people out honestly with your north-south choke (and similar) with no assist from any skunk powers. Pretty decent trade off imo
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Dec 31, 2021 14:36
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practice watching TV inverted! gotta get comfortable with your upsidedown orientation
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Grace Baiting posted:Well on the plus side you're probably getting more interest from rolling partners than you would otherwise; on the minus side you've gotta tap people out honestly with your north-south choke (and similar) with no assist from any skunk powers. Fair assessment. I've certainly tapped to grundlefunk before. 
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I just want to write it down so that I stick to it. I'm going to take a break from grappling for at least 2 months. I recently moved and the new place I'm training at isn't really a good fit, and I keep getting ring worm, and giving my wife ringworm, and they make you use the bathroom with no shoes on and just hop back on the mat and that really grosses me out. There are a lot of other small problems I have with this place, not enough no gi, quality of instruction, warmups. For the first time in my life I dread training. So i'm going to take a two month break, not going to watch bjj on the internet, and try to find a new school that fits my needs in a little while.
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gay for gacha posted:I just want to write it down so that I stick to it. Man, that sucks. Basic hygiene is like the base layer of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs when it comes to grappling. Besides whatever topical or prescription antifungals you're using, I'd suggest picking up some Nizoral shampoo from the pharmacy (should be OTC) and have you and the wife use it 'til the bottle is empty. My coach keeps the gym showers stocked with Head & Shoulders for the same reason, and it seems to be working ok. Tea tree oil is supposed to be a mild antifungal too (though the evidence is a little shakier). But basically, when it comes to ringworm, I suggest the Ellen Ripley approach where you take off and nuke the site from orbit.
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That place sounds horrible, hygiene wise, hit da bricks is a good plan. The way covid is going in Australia, I'm not sure I'll be able to continue grappling when my holiday is over in a week's time
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Man that's pretty gross. Is that the same gym you were getting injured at?
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knuthgrush posted:Man that's pretty gross. Is that the same gym you were getting injured at? nah. I just started coming to this one right after my knee healed enough to train again because I moved.
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starkebn posted:That place sounds horrible, hygiene wise, hit da bricks is a good plan. I think I'm going to continue. My morning classes rarely have more than 6-8 people in them and we disinfect the place like it's a hospital. The coach also teaches some night classes but in the past year any time he's felt sick he sits masked in a chair at a distance and teaches by talking student-proxies through the techniques. It's not perfect but it seems like they're just letting it run free now, not sure what else to do.
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gay for gacha posted:and they make you use the bathroom with no shoes on Wait what?! Usually its the other way around. What is their justification for wanting you to NOT have your shoes on and then hopping back on the mat? Thats really weird and gross.
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Jan 3, 2022 02:22
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Yeah no matter how terrible my gym was they at least got that part right.
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just watched the first dvd of three of nicky ryans wrestle up dvd. Learned a lot of great details, can't wait to drill this stuff and really add it to my game. I'm going to base most of my curriculum this month based on wrestling up. Super excited.
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The COVID-19 cases here have skyrocketed since Omicron variant was introduced. Gyms are closed for two weeks for a start and I believe that will continue for weeks or months. This sucks. I was planning on 2022 to be the competition year and I was going to Euros 2022 in Italy in February. Now, I can't finish my training for competition or train anything at all. So much for the competition. I have to train to get my motivation back once we have reopened.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:Wait what?! Usually its the other way around. What is their justification for wanting you to NOT have your shoes on and then hopping back on the mat? Thats really weird and gross. I don't want to trash talk a place that has a community of people that really like the experience there. It doesn't feel very martial arts. I think the culture of the gym just isn't the culture I like, but obviously they have enough people training there that it seems to work for some.
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gay for gacha posted:I don't want to trash talk a place that has a community of people that really like the experience there. It doesn't feel very martial arts. I think the culture of the gym just isn't the culture I like, but obviously they have enough people training there that it seems to work for some. i signed up to learn how to scrap, but stayed for the unblinking subservience to objectively questionable practices
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Jan 3, 2022 20:19
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we just love our pee and poo feet!!
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gay for gacha posted:I don't want to trash talk a place that has a community of people that really like the experience there. It doesn't feel very martial arts. I think the culture of the gym just isn't the culture I like, but obviously they have enough people training there that it seems to work for some. Often times there are people in those communities who help enable bad behavior/bad practices. Its usually not just the head coach who is leading by bad example.
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Starting to really like the transitions from half/deep half to X. It seems to work pretty well even when they are not standing up and are maybe on a knee. Got a sweet back take last night against someone my size using this transition from X. Im starting to see a little more growth and thats always a fun place to be.
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