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Nitrousoxide posted:There need to be humans in each age for legends and myth to survive an entire turning of the wheel though. You can't have an age of dinosaurs with no humans because that breaks the ability for those legends to make it all the way around the wheel. I mean technically no legend or myth survives to the age that birthed it every Wheel of Time intro posted:“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.” 7th age is a 300 million year period after all life is wiped out from Earth and re-evolves.
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Barreft posted:Wait what? It’s in the back half of New Spring when she’s going through seedy inns to find Siuan in that city I can’t remember the name of.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:12 |
http://www.theoryland.com/forums/discussion/8782quote:Now that it has been revealed that Taimandred killed Asmodean, and the Encyclopedia is out, I no longer feel bound to keep any secrets from the notes. And there are a ton of interesting details. I want to share them all but the problem is that I'm bound by copyright laws for this stuff so I have to summarize a lot of stuff and only quote when RJ's exact wording is crucial.
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Zore posted:Yeah, Dragonmount alone would be a completely out of context problem. Mountains do not naturally form solo with hundreds of miles of relatively flat plains surrounding them. Except when they do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutter_Buttes quote:The Sutter Buttes (Maidu: Histum Yani or Esto Yamani, Wintun: Olonai-Tol, Nisenan: Estom Yanim) are a small circular complex of eroded volcanic lava domes which rise as buttes above the flat plains of the Sacramento Valley in Sutter County, Northern California. They are situated just outside Yuba City in the northern part of the state's Central Valley.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:14 |
Nitrousoxide posted:There need to be humans in each age for legends and myth to survive an entire turning of the wheel though. You can't have an age of dinosaurs with no humans because that breaks the ability for those legends to make it all the way around the wheel. Does it, though?
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:15 |
CainsDescendant posted:Does it, though?
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:17 |
Zore posted:I mean technically no legend or myth survives to the age that birthed it Maybe, but then you can only have stuff going one way. Either events from our time shouldn't have made it into the 3rd age (because we happened after it) which we know isn't the case since they reference a nuclear war between Russia and the US and the moon landing. Or events from the 3rd age shouldn't have made it into ours as myth/legends because it happened after our time. But Mat is probably Odin with his one eye and two ravens. So since neither of these are false there's an uninterrupted path for legends and myth to make it around the wheel, meaning no time for dinosaurs. CainsDescendant posted:Does it, though? lol
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:18 |
Barreft posted:Keep in mind almost all of Egwene is Jordan. i'm just at the prologue, it sucks rear end. somehow manages to be simplistic and bloated at the same time.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:24 |
Biggest problem is people think it's the 7th Age to the 1st Age, but instead *adjust glasses* The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past. The 7th Age could be the 3rd Age!
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:25 |
exmarx posted:i'm just at the prologue, it sucks rear end. somehow manages to be simplistic and bloated at the same time. The random blacksmith guy at first is full Jordan.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:26 |
Nitrousoxide posted:There need to be humans in each age for legends and myth to survive an entire turning of the wheel though. You can't have an age of dinosaurs with no humans because that breaks the ability for those legends to make it all the way around the wheel. Huh, I didn't think of that.
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Nitrousoxide posted:There need to be humans in each age for legends and myth to survive an entire turning of the wheel though. You can't have an age of dinosaurs with no humans because that breaks the ability for those legends to make it all the way around the wheel. No, because the Heroes are in TAR at all times. Knowledge never gets lost, we just don't know how it's passed. Probably not at all since even the Age of Legends people had no idea about the Horn or other things. Probably just a groups of humans survived and like the real world grew from the Dinos. Iunno
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:35 |
The Dragon of that age is a literal dragon that has fully sick heavy metal fights against the Ishasaurus Rex
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CainsDescendant posted:Does it, though? I've decided I'm going to reread The Black Company series since I bought a book that's a collection of the first 3 books.
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exmarx posted:i'm just at the prologue, it sucks rear end. somehow manages to be simplistic and bloated at the same time. This is almost everything Sanderson does for me. Absolutely boilerplate prose that’s got no real style or interest and PLENTY OF IT.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:38 |
I'm fine with LTT velociraptor. This is now cannon.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:40 |
Hollismason posted:I've decided I'm going to reread The Black Company series since I bought a book that's a collection of the first 3 books. Read Malazan if you're quoting that pic lol
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:41 |
Barreft posted:The random blacksmith guy at first is full Jordan. that's wild, it def needed an edit.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:42 |
exmarx posted:that's wild, it def needed an edit. Send a letter to his wife Harriett the editor
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 03:43 |
exmarx posted:that's wild, it def needed an edit. I think they didn't want to edit Jordan's stuff much when it was incorporated since he wasn't around to tweak it.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:04 |
uh ok anyway back to dinosaurs
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:07 |
Everybody read Malazan
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:17 |
Hexel posted:Everybody read Malazan It's good, but uhh, I consider it "high" fantasy as in stoned out of your mind. Guys an archaeologist and it shows, which rules considering the dying and growing of empires. but man it's abstract
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Malazan doesn't really look that interesting to me in fact I think I read a bunch of the books when they came out and nothing really stuck with me. I'm enjoying reading The Black Company books right now.
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Barreft posted:No, because the Heroes are in TAR at all times. Knowledge never gets lost, we just don't know how it's passed. Probably not at all since even the Age of Legends people had no idea about the Horn or other things. Where does the Horn come from anyway? Did they ever use it in the War of Power?
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:42 |
CainFortea posted:Where does the Horn come from anyway? Did they ever use it in the War of Power? It's a dino horn obviously
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:43 |
CainFortea posted:Where does the Horn come from anyway? Did they ever use it in the War of Power? No they never used it in the AoL or after until Mat. Jordan said cause no one thought to blow it. That's pretty weird but I dunno I've never gone up and tried to use any horn or other instruments I've seen in museums either.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 04:51 |
Hexel posted:Everybody read Malazan Do not do this. It's boring, up its own rear end, and every book is at least 300 pages too long as the author loves to spend a lot of time discussing poo poo that will not matter, or be seen again, until six books later. Read The Black Company, instead. It's got all the good ideas Erickson pilfered without the boring nonsense. Hell, play Myth and Myth 2 instead. Just don't waste time on Malazan.
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Devorum posted:Do not do this. It's boring, up its own rear end, and every book is at least 300 pages too long as the author loves to spend a lot of time discussing poo poo that will not matter, or be seen again, until six books later. Yeah I'm really enjoying my reread of The Black Company. The original books are pretty bleak and brutal. Especially with the idea that the company is employed by a Evil Undead Sorcererous.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Are darkfriends even going to be a thing in the 4th age? The Dark One is cut off from the world again and can't promise anything new or deliver on any previous promises anymore. You might still have existing darkfriends trying to somehow free him again, maybe, but there's nothing to entice new ones and they'd all but die off in a generation. Don't think he is, he will be forgotten eventually. But there will be some inertia. One thing I wondered about is the halfmen, they supposedly got their powers from the dark one, like now he's gone, are they flailing around blind?
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 05:23 |
The Blight disappeared immediately, so I'd assume they just keeled over. Same with Trollocs I guess.
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I really wish we had gotten more out of the ending than what we got. I totally missed the blight disappearing.
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Yeah I mean Trollocs are only a recent invention by one of the forsaken. Not like a naturally occurring part of the world.
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Devorum posted:Do not do this. It's boring, up its own rear end, and every book is at least 300 pages too long as the author loves to spend a lot of time discussing poo poo that will not matter, or be seen again, until six books later. Or read both, lots of people like the series.
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# ? Jan 3, 2022 06:10 |
Devorum posted:Hell, play Myth and Myth 2 instead. Just don't waste time on Malazan. Now those are some names I haven't heard in a long, long time. Now I want to blow up some thrall with Dwarven grenades.
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jetz0r posted:The timeline I think about from our world is how we remember the tale of Sodom destroyed by god's wrath compared to finding a bronze age city that was destroyed by a meteor air burst 3600 years ago. There's at least 2 ages (ours and AoL) that do scientific exploration and archeology, so there has to be enough time and disruption between those that we're not finding AoL cities under 2ft of dirt. That timeline of ages lasting 1700 or 300 years is just too short, roughly 3000+ years per an age makes way more sense in keeping them distinct and far enough apart to forget everything, even when we're looking for the past. Say, for example, an ice age caused by the one power that reduced human population to a few thousand and radically reshaped the landscape?
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Mayor Dave posted:Say, for example, an ice age caused by the one power that reduced human population to a few thousand and radically reshaped the landscape? Some nerd using the OP transfer heat from Earth to his Moon Casino and it got out of control.
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Malazan features a race of dinosaurs who Jurassic Parked themselves by resurrecting an even more powerful race of dinosaurs who then killed them all. Yeah it's up its own rear end, but it's also wonderfully silly at times.
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