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I can get why, but it's kinda crazy how many series turn into a fighting manga at some point.
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Fighting sells and sex sells. If one doesn’t work, try the other
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Dec 31, 2021 04:09
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negima switched focus to fighting but it was still overall about 50/50 fighting and naked middle school girls and the latter aspect never went away.
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Dec 31, 2021 04:17
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You can't 'manga can have little a combat, as a treat' things, people start enjoying and expecting it to continue! Imagine if you were watching The Lion King and Simba does a Shoryuken in the final battle. You can't just sweep that under the rug and assume it won't stick out to people and be a conversation piece.
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Dec 31, 2021 05:14
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Electric Phantasm posted:I can get why, but it's kinda crazy how many series turn into a fighting manga at some point. Have you read Bakuman? It's described there as one of the go-to things for a shonen manga. If whatever you're doing isn't connecting with readers like you'd like, you can still pivot to fights and maybe succeed. Meanwhile, if you can't sell fights, that's it. A pivot is pretty much no longer possible, and the manga's set to go under.
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Dec 31, 2021 05:27
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:negima switched focus to fighting but it was still overall about 50/50 fighting and naked middle school girls and the latter aspect never went away. Can't remember where I read this (or if it's remotely true) but I think the author wanted to do a full on fight manga but editors were like "you are very famous for panty shots, maybe do mostly that first?" And so he did and slowly transitioned to mostly fighting. So it might be unique in that the fighting was always planned, compared to other series' pivots out of wanting to stay serialized? UQ Holder is straight up horny + fighting at all times though, at least from what I read. Wasn't there a straight up hentai trope lift in the form of "3 panels of the same environment and angle, just characters boning in different parts of it"?
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Dec 31, 2021 05:38
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Secretly deep down all authors just want to write another dragonball and I support them when they try to make the transition.
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Dec 31, 2021 05:42
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There any series that started out focused on fighting but instead shifted into something else?
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Dec 31, 2021 06:02
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Julias posted:Does My Hero Academia count? The entire first chapter is about how Deku can be a hero despite not having superpowers, but then in ch 2 it's like "nah jk imma give you my superman powers". What the poo poo.
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Dec 31, 2021 06:04
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I would say Fullmetal Alchemist actively fought successfully from becoming a traditional fight manga. Yes it has a lot of fighting but the mechanics of fights are much more muted in favor character interactions and development. I feel I can even point to the fight that was the fork in the road where it could have happened and then didn't.
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Dec 31, 2021 06:18
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Vise the Stompy posted:I would say Fullmetal Alchemist actively fought successfully from becoming a traditional fight manga. Yes it has a lot of fighting but the mechanics of fights are much more muted in favor character interactions and development. I feel I can even point to the fight that was the fork in the road where it could have happened and then didn't. if we're talking about a series that transitioned from fighting to something else then I don't think fma fits that bill it was consistent in how it treated combat for the whole run
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Dec 31, 2021 06:28
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Chainsawman transitioned from fighting to being a complete mindfuck
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Dec 31, 2021 06:40
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CSM got way more combat-heavy in the last 15-20 chapters but there was never a point where i wouldn't call it a "fighting manga" it's called Chainsaw Man, the title carries certain expectations
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Dec 31, 2021 06:42
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Full Metal Alchemist just didn't fall into the power levels trap, and fights were won by the characters using their brains and not just them endlessly getting stronger.
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Dec 31, 2021 06:47
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Oxxidation posted:CSM got way more combat-heavy in the last 15-20 chapters but there was never a point where i wouldn't call it a "fighting manga" Yeah. Like hamburgers.
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Dec 31, 2021 06:50
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Hunter x Hunter starts out as a fighting manga and turns into a novel about the most efficient method of hydrating your breakfast cereal.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:05
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CodfishCartographer posted:There any series that started out focused on fighting but instead shifted into something else? Would Vinland Saga count?
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Dec 31, 2021 07:06
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Manatee Cannon posted:if we're talking about a series that transitioned from fighting to something else then I don't think fma fits that bill Since I can't recall a instance where a manga went from fights to no fights for significant part of their run, I figured at the very least it would be interesting to highlight a series that could have gone for easy Shonen fighting narratives and cliches with the tools their author's world building provided but then choose not to. I made the distinction of traditional fighter for a reason. Alchemy could have had all the trappings of any other power systems, fights could have been more formulaic, characters introduced more frequently with little narrative weight outside fighting. The closet it felt this way was Scar vs the Silver Alchemist. Lets look at the set up and how it played out. You have a one off character that is arguably mostly memorable trait was their fighting style. During the fight there is a monologue concerning the application of alchemy for fighting. Scar is on the back foot but one pivotal twist gives him the upper hand to win. Don't take this mean I think the fight is bad, its great, but the narrative flow feels more like something out of Naruto or Bleach. Its amazing this is the only time it happens in the series.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:07
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Fire Punch maaaaayyybe fits the bill? It does end with a fight, but aside from that there are basically zero fights in the second half of the series.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:16
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Secretly deep down all authors just want to write another dragonball and I support them when they try to make the transition. That's not true. Many of them want to write JoJos.
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Dec 31, 2021 07:49
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chiasaur11 posted:Yeah. And fun family snowball fights.
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Dec 31, 2021 09:29
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Thirst Mutilator posted:Can't remember where I read this (or if it's remotely true) but I think the author wanted to do a full on fight manga but editors were like "you are very famous for panty shots, maybe do mostly that first?" And so he did and slowly transitioned to mostly fighting. So it might be unique in that the fighting was always planned, compared to other series' pivots out of wanting to stay serialized? i dropped uq holder when i hit the naked child race because jesus loving christ. apparently later on it got really weird and meta but i'm not willing to check.
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Dec 31, 2021 10:08
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I lost track a while back (about the same place, the race took forever ontop of its content issues) but it seems like its in its endgame?
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Dec 31, 2021 10:52
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I think it actually finished recently? It had a lot of cool ideas and characters/scenes I still remember but yeah count me as another who dropped it about that same point.
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Dec 31, 2021 12:27
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It's a shame that the idea of immortals banding together to protect their own and other supernaturals gets sidelined by dealing with holdover stuff from Negima and a really janky romance that has to actually address the fact that one of the principle love interests was already in a previous harem contest with another dude who is now on Mars(?) and also fused with Death, the destroyer of worlds. I second the notion that UQ had lots of neat ideas, but nothing strong holding it together. My favorite character is the one swordsman who has basic immortality (chinese longevity pill) but hacked his way into being top tier through sheer devotion to the principle art of cutting. So that there isn't anything he can't cut at all.
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Dec 31, 2021 12:43
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negima/UQ holder are the series that confirm all the worst stereotypes about anime/manga fans lol
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Lt. Lizard posted:Would Vinland Saga count? That's a little different because the point of the series was always going to be Thorfinn becoming a pacifist.
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wow everyone in ranger reject is a lunaticgimme the GOD drat candy posted:i dropped uq holder when i hit the naked child race because jesus loving christ. apparently later on it got really weird and meta but i'm not willing to check. also same
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The fact that I'm reading the words "naked child race" regarding a Ken Akamatsu manga both doesn't surprise me at all, and makes me glad I dropped before I got to that point.
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Jan 3, 2022 10:41
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Sakamoto Days spoiler lol
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Electric Phantasm posted:Sakamoto Days spoiler Old man is my favorite character now. nobody comes close to this level of excitement and anticipation.
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Jan 3, 2022 18:28
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I hope he gets a spinoff series.
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Jan 3, 2022 19:28
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I'm not going to risk searching, but I do have to ask... Naked child race as in species, or as in running?
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So apparently Shonen Jump English/Viz isn’t putting out chapter 94 of Ayakashi Triangle but will be putting out 95. Anyone know what happened that Viz elected to go “gently caress this?”
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Jan 3, 2022 19:34
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The forbidden chapter.
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The Black Stones posted:So apparently Shonen Jump English/Viz isn’t putting out chapter 94 of Ayakashi Triangle but will be putting out 95. Anyone know what happened that Viz elected to go “gently caress this?” I can think of two reasons
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Posting here because the Black Clover thread is dead. Black Clover I'm getting real loving tired of the "We made it, yay!" -> "Oh no! An even stronger enemy has shown up! Whatever shall we do?" GET ON WITH IT. At least we got Mereoleona in this chapter so not all is lost, but seriously. Tabata, please. Cease. Desist.
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Jan 3, 2022 21:17
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Mikl posted:Posting here because the Black Clover thread is dead. Too be fair this is the first enemy guy that is just straight up stronger then Asta even ignoring magic.
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Mikl posted:Posting here because the Black Clover thread is dead.  
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