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Sir Lemming posted:Batman Forever has the worst villain portrayals of the franchise for sure. Riddler barely riddles, he kind of just... Jim Carreys. Yeah. I can't sanction that buffoonery.
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I will be honest I never really got why people liked Jim when he was just going fill him. It’s not very funny
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The producers knew exactly what they were getting when the got Carrey to be the Riddler. I'm pretty sure the only direction he was given was "just do all those funny things you did in Ace Ventura and the Mask and don't worry about anything else". He was hired to play a Jim Carrey character and that's it. Jones on the other had is inexcusable. It's okay when a serious actor decides to ham it up but it really came across as pity and pathetic as it looked like one actor was pissed off at another actor for outhamming him. Jones was playing less a character and more of a 4 year old trying to out tantrum their sibling.
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah. I can't sanction that buffoonery. It's interesting that TLJ would say that, then buffoon it up himself. Makes me wonder if he was pushed into acting that way.
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live with fruit posted:It's interesting that TLJ would say that, then buffoon it up himself. Makes me wonder if he was pushed into acting that way. Yeah, and it really is the more embarrassing performance of the two. He pulled that kind of thing off much better in Under Siege.
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The impression I'm getting from the trailers is that this film is going to be more like Batman: Year One than Batman Begins ended up being. I know originally when Darren Aronofsky was going direct it was going to be in more of the Year One direction. They are also clearly going for Seven vibes with all of the Riddler stuff, which I think works. Plus Paul Dano is generally very good.
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When I was a kid a local channel was running both Batman TAS and 60's Batman so Batman and Robin coming out and being a tonal flip from like Batman 89 and especially Returns didn't seem super weird. I was also 10 so when Batman and Robin started ice skating in the diamond and dinosaur exhibit I was pretty happy
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Batman Forever has the best soundtrack Batman & Robin has some great artist picks too. You just have to ignore that the main hit from that album was "Gotham City".....by r kelly. "Moaner" by Underworld is an absolute 10 minute mindfuck of a banger tho, I totally understand why it's the second to last track on the album. It features another version of the Smashing Pumpkins song at the end (which had a second life as a song for a Watchmen trailer).
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Always happy to welcome another movie to the list of "Paul Dano gets horribly beat up"
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Mierenneuker posted:It features another version of the Smashing Pumpkins song at the end (which had a second life as a song for a Watchmen trailer). They played that song on their last tour, whereas the "main" version only got played a dozen times 25 years ago.
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Madkal posted:Jones on the other had is inexcusable. It's okay when a serious actor decides to ham it up but it really came across as pity and pathetic as it looked like one actor was pissed off at another actor for outhamming him. Jones was playing less a character and more of a 4 year old trying to out tantrum their sibling. I mean Jones is a good enough actor he probably could of pulled of something if not good at least interesting if he had the direction or writing. The only comedy he's really done is Men in black and Small soldiers, where he parodying being serious. Serious and comedically over the top serious seems to be his thing. In the comics Two faces is usually portrayed as intensely seriously, have him go at it from that angel could of really worked, particularly putting him in the straight man role against carrey, but not really to any affect.
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dr_rat posted:The only comedy he's really done is Men in black and Small soldiers, where he parodying being serious. How soon we forget (this was honestly the best quality I could seem to find): 
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live with fruit posted:It's interesting that TLJ would say that, then buffoon it up himself. Makes me wonder if he was pushed into acting that way. Considering Returns made less money than 89, the clear direction the studio was demanding was “more Nicholson, less DeVito” with the villains, leading to both of them going “oh, Christmas ham levels of scenery chewing, got it” I’m guessing merch sales for having two villains was better in the end than for having just one, which is how we ended up with a villain tag team again. Split the difference sort of stuff, have multiple villains but don’t, y’know, give six year olds nightmares about a flipper man who lives in the sewers with a clown gang coming to kidnap them because they’re first borns
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Pope Corky the IX posted:So are we finally going to find out what makes Batman Batman? You might be surprised to learn it involves pearls bouncing in a poorly lit, dirty alley.
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Batman's always like "I'm Batman" but how does he know?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Batman's always like "I'm Batman" but how does he know?
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All these movies are trying to put the Man in Batman, but maybe they should focus on putting the Bat in Batman. Makes you think
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Batman's always like "I'm Batman" but how does he know? Wonder woman once tied him up in her lasso of truth and asked him his real name. He replied "Batman".
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kdrudy posted:You might be surprised to learn it involves pearls bouncing in a poorly lit, dirty alley. The trend away from the Waynes being sympathetic dogooders to one percenter assholes is something interesting Batman movies are doing, like in Joker and maybe The Batman based on the ads.
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I mean it’s not terribly intersting because Bruce’s parents aren’t terribly important.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean it’s not terribly intersting because Bruce’s parents aren’t terribly important. They're pretty important in Begins and Joker and at least one great episode of TAS.
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Two mediocre movies isn’t a very good case for em. Plus what if thing but evil is rarely intersting anyway
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All right! We get it. You're a negative Nancy.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Batman's always like "I'm Batman" but how does he know? hes telling himself. its a mantra
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I watched Returns recently for the first time in like 30 years, and I was amazed at how much of that movie either flew over my head or was just ignored when I was a kid. DeVito's Penguin was a super creepy sex pest, like he spends 80% of the movie skeeving on Catwoman or literally any woman he shares a scene with, grunting and making innuendos nonstop. I appreciated Walken a lot more this time around, but then he's great in anything.
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What if he was in deep introspection and the superstitious criminals misheard W-what AAAARE YOUUUU?! *woefully* "I'm bad, man..."
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Madkal posted:All these movies are trying to put the Man in Batman, but maybe they should focus on putting the Bat in Batman. Makes you think Manbat movie when
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Madkal posted:All these movies are trying to put the Man in Batman, but maybe they should focus on putting the Bat in Batman. Makes you think The Harley Quinn animated series implies that he's putting the man in the Bat if you follow
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I like how that show can make jokes about Batman loving bats but isn't allowed to reference Batman performing oral sex on Catwoman.
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Batman doesn't do four things: 1. Kill 2. Use guns 3. Go down 4. Sit
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Now that I've seen a full body photo of the Riddler I understand the hood and the outside the mask glasses. https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1480013969620299776?t=eDft6uawA6tPiLiiaPdyWA&s=19 Dude's the Zodiac Killer
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Riddler is just asking questions about election integrity.
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I like it
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It looks like gimp Mushmouth.
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This Batman seems to be leaning in on the grim dark stuff which just never works for Batman
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You mean his entire character?
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that question mark isn't quite at the level of the joker walking into the tattoo parlour and asking to get Damaged HAHAHAHAHAHAH inked on but it's not a million miles off
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Who would play a good Adam West-style Batman in a modern reboot? Hamm jumps to mind, naturally, but I'm sure there are better options out there who aren't pushing 50.
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