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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
That reminds me of the book that Heinlein wrote called Friday. Even at my young age I kind of thought it was bullshit that the end of the book ends with the "strong female lead" pregnant and in a kitchen literally.

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pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

navyjack posted:

So I tuned out of The Laundry Files a few books back. It was maybe about vampires or maybe about elves but was definitely about something I didn’t care much about. If any one is caught up (new book out today), has Bob come back into the main story in a significant way? If not as the protagonist but at least as a major NPC?

i also dropped out when super heroes started showing up, i did read the first vampire one and the elves claiming refugees status

i also like the deal with devil Nyarlathotep becoming PM but it wasn't enough to keep me in after The Delirium Brief.

TBH the cold war spy novels style pastiche thing was as much of a drawcard for me as the tech nerd plots and he understandably stopped doing it after the first four

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

cant cook creole bream posted:

Eh, I read the Xenogenesis series and found it mediocre to bad. I hope you have a better experience.

me too, I've read Lilith's brood a couple of times and i never felt it necessary to read the other two.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

pradmer posted:


Provenance by Ann Leckie - $2.99
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has Ann published anything since The Raven Tower?

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005

branedotorg posted:

has Ann published anything since The Raven Tower?

No, I was looking at her website earlier and it's not clear if she's up to anything in particular at the moment.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Hrmm maybe I should read some Scot Lynch Lies of Lock Mora or what ever its called. That looks good.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Locke lamora is pretty good, I liked it anyway.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

Larry Parrish posted:

Locke lamora is pretty good, I liked it anyway.

yep it’s good. Series has diminishing returns but the first does it all well.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


For Butler, the Parables are my favourites from her, as well as her short stories. I haven't read Lilith's Brood personally so can't comment on that.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Larry Parrish posted:

Locke lamora is pretty good, I liked it anyway.

I'll add it to my list. I've still got like 4 more Black Company books to read though.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

buffalo all day posted:

yep it’s good. Series has diminishing returns but the first does it all well.

Yeah the first Locke Lamora book is as at least as good as anything Glen Cook has done, it's a really excellent book. It might've been better as a one off than as a series though. Still, Lynch has at least written one really good book and that's something.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 12, 2022

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
I’ve been picking up books in the Tor essentials imprint lately and just finished The Dragon Waiting by John Ford. A bit clunky at times but it was a real enjoyable alt history / fantasy read. Ford asks a lot of his readers, and it feels like this is one that would really hold up well to a reread.

It also feels like the kind of thing that in a lesser, or at least different, author would turn into a series.

zerofiend
Dec 23, 2006

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah the first Locke Lamora book is as at least as good as anything Glen Cook has done, it's a really excellent book. It might've been better as a one off than as a series though. Still, Lynch has at least written one really good book and that's something.

Lies is definitely incredible and the standout, but I've found the sequels to be good enough to keep reading. The first one is so unreasonably good for his first published thing that I find it hard to hold it against the rest of the series.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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zerofiend posted:

Lies is definitely incredible and the standout, but I've found the sequels to be good enough to keep reading. The first one is so unreasonably good for his first published thing that I find it hard to hold it against the rest of the series.

Yeah, it's sort of the Bridge of Birds problem, where the first is so good it overshadows sequels that aren't bad, they just aren't the first book.

I think Lynch has also had some mental health issues that have limited his ability to work on the later books, so can't blame him at all.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the 2nd and 3rd have that general sequel problem of being more of the same, but the setting change is interesting enough. plus, you know, I like the dynamic of the first book. i don't really care if it wasn't much expanded on. the 3rd is sick, and i like it quite a bit. i might even like it more than the 1st but I'm not sure.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Started reading Andy Weir’s Hail Mary on Amazon since you can read the first few chapters of books for free on there, and drat it’s just gripping from the beginning. It helps that the main character has a great sense of humor.

Will almost assuredly be buying this.

theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jan 12, 2022

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah, it's sort of the Bridge of Birds problem, where the first is so good it overshadows sequels that aren't bad, they just aren't the first book.

I think Lynch has also had some mental health issues that have limited his ability to work on the later books, so can't blame him at all.

You said the magic words and now I need to reread Bridge of Birds (and sequels)

Burke
Jul 27, 2005

Simba-Witz!

Hollismason posted:

Just really getting into Glen Cook's Dreams of Steel and Goddamn The Lady is loving brutal. Its really loving good. I've got the follow up omnibus. I strongly recommend these books look for the Tor Omnibuses they collect all 3 of the first 3 novels and then there are 3 more ominbuses. They're well worth the investment as they collect 2 to 3 novels for one low price.

I've had The Books of the North and The Books of the South collections on my shelf for many years. I've read the first collection a few times and really liked Shadows Linger, but I never got very far in Books of the South. I might have just burnt out trying to read them all at once. Maybe I should try again, not that I would do it differently this time.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Burke posted:

I've had The Books of the North and The Books of the South collections on my shelf for many years. I've read the first collection a few times and really liked Shadows Linger, but I never got very far in Books of the South. I might have just burnt out trying to read them all at once. Maybe I should try again, not that I would do it differently this time.

I ended up falling off of books of the south twice before finally getting through them and finishing the whole series, and now I think they're good.

Burke
Jul 27, 2005

Simba-Witz!

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

I ended up falling off of books of the south twice before finally getting through them and finishing the whole series, and now I think they're good.

That helps, thanks. I'll give it another shot.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Burke posted:

I've had The Books of the North and The Books of the South collections on my shelf for many years. I've read the first collection a few times and really liked Shadows Linger, but I never got very far in Books of the South. I might have just burnt out trying to read them all at once. Maybe I should try again, not that I would do it differently this time.

They're good books. Like the story of the Books of the South is really good. The only negative I can think of is Spoiler for Dreams of Steel The 2nd book is from Lady's viewpoint which is way different than Croaker, and it ends on a major cliffhanger

ringu0
Feb 24, 2013


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PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

cant cook creole bream posted:

Eh, I read the Xenogenesis series and found it mediocre to bad. I hope you have a better experience.

I haven't read those, but the two Parables novels are very good, and Kindred is one of the best time travel novels I've ever read.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Oryx and Crake is the standout there

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I've had Oryx and Crake for a couple years now and never read it, because as much as I love post-apocalyptic fiction, it's too soon for me to feel okay reading a post-apoc book where there was a plague :(

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



FuzzySlippers posted:

Oryx and Crake is the standout there

High five buddy, I also read that list and thought “I better tell people to buy oryx and crake”. It really is an amazing book. At least as good as handmaids tale.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames
oryx and crake is one of my favorite books, highly recommend

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Read both Rendezvous With Rama and Childhood’s End over the last couple of days.

One thing I really appreciate about Clarke, in these books at least. is that they’ve got fantastic pacing with zero filler. Of course that’s in part because they’re short reads, but everything in there seems to be not only necessary, but engrossing. And he wastes no time getting to the good stuff. I was surprised that in only 20 pages they’re landing on Rama. Though i think characters and interactions suffer because of it. But then that’s not Clarke’s strengths, and he seems to know it.

I’m still not sure how I feel about how the mystery of Childhood’s End is resolved. I didn’t find the ending part nearly as interesting as the beginning and middle section. I think because those sections seemed to have more social commentary, while the last part was intriguing, but to me didn’t say much about humanity. Still really liked it though. Rama was perfect all the way through though. Can’t wait to see what Villeneuve does with it.

theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 13, 2022

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Groke posted:

Goddamn, but LeGuin owned really hard.
QFT

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Nomnom Cookie posted:

High five buddy, I also read that list and thought “I better tell people to buy oryx and crake”. It really is an amazing book. At least as good as handmaids tale.

Better IMO. I can understand why Handmaid's Tale was a smash hit TV show because it taps into our 2010s zeitgeist, but I think Oryx & Crake is the better-constructed and more interesting novel. (Unless it's just that I read it as a teenager when I was more easily impressed.)

Just don't read the sequels in which she does an egregious amount of retconning that kind of spoiled the stuff I found most engaging about Oryx & Crake.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

new kj parker is out and it's classic parker, so if you're expecting something different don't buy it
sharps is still my favorite work of his but these scratch the parker itch quite well

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
is it the third walled city book because the first and the second both pwned.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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Larry Parrish posted:

is it the third walled city book because the first and the second both pwned.

Yes, it is.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

About halfway through it, it's good.

Edit: Finished it. A brisk straightforward read. I enjoyed it. Very much more of the same in terms of style and somewhat credulity strainingly competent protagonist.

Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jan 13, 2022

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Larry Parrish posted:

the 2nd and 3rd have that general sequel problem of being more of the same, but the setting change is interesting enough. plus, you know, I like the dynamic of the first book. i don't really care if it wasn't much expanded on. the 3rd is sick, and i like it quite a bit. i might even like it more than the 1st but I'm not sure.

The second book felt like 2 unpolished stories that were smashed together to provide enough content to publish. I did read almost all of it, but when it literally gave me "...and this is how they did it..." I put it down. I assume the nature of the book was down to a book deal he made, and had to publish something?

The first book is good and well worth reading.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Collateral posted:

The second book felt like 2 unpolished stories that were smashed together to provide enough content to publish. I did read almost all of it, but when it literally gave me "...and this is how they did it..." I put it down. I assume the nature of the book was down to a book deal he made, and had to publish something?

The first book is good and well worth reading.

Yeah, book two felt like two potentially excellent books (Jean & Locke Pretend To Be Pirates and Jean & Locke Rob A Casino) awkwardly squished together into a single book, to the detriment of both.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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a friendly penguin
Feb 1, 2007

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pradmer posted:

How Long 'til Black Future Month? by NK Jemisin - $3.99
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So many good stories in this collection. I still think about Sinners, Saints, Dragons and Haints...

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