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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This is a massive ongoing issue in hospitals across the US right now as they're handing fistfuls of cash to traveling nurses to fill positions but not paying any extra to the current staff and in some cases canceling bonuses and punishing people who take time off, so of course the staff are all going "You're treating me like poo poo and paying them double, why the gently caress am I still here????" Providing your disaffected work force with ammunition during a plague and a period of unprecedented corruption by the 1% seems like a poor choice.
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It sounds like Thedacare is trying to apply economic pressure to the group of seven with this injunction to get them to come crawling back. They can’t force the group to work for them, seems like the injunction is to prevent them working at the new employer. Since most people can’t afford to be out of work for months, maybe the idea is that regardless of the strength of their case they hope being without pay for a while forces these people back into the fold. I would think that in addition to the group of seven, the new employer is being damaged in the situation by being denied the employees they were fairly and legally trying to hire. In any case it’s super lovely and a very important legal precedent.
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It sounds like the employees gave notice, and even gave Thedacare a chance to take steps to retain them, which were turned down. The only grounds I could imagine for an injunction like this is if there was evidence of collusion on the part of the employees and/or prospective employer to knowingly cause harm to Thedacare by secretly poaching employees and providing no notice. That I could see perhaps meriting sanctions, but this reads like juvenile retaliation.
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Ooh another update, the judge says some of the staff has to stay OR all of them are blocked from the new job until the original hospital replaces themquote:OUTAGAMIE COUNTY, Wis. (WBAY) - UPDATE 1/22
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CaptainSarcastic posted:It sounds like the employees gave notice, and even gave Thedacare a chance to take steps to retain them, which were turned down. that's absolutely what it is, and this chudge just accidentally set the stage for a legal precedent on exactly who's will at-will refers to because they're an idiot
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It'd be pretty cool if At-Will employment bullshit was ultimately struck down because of this but we all know what will actually happen is that somehow all of us will lose even more employment rights while these healthcare employees have an extended legal battle that leaves them destitute and unemployable.
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Jan 23, 2022 04:03
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This is a massive ongoing issue in hospitals across the US right now as they're handing fistfuls of cash to traveling nurses to fill positions but not paying any extra to the current staff and in some cases canceling bonuses and punishing people who take time off, so of course the staff are all going "You're treating me like poo poo and paying them double, why the gently caress am I still here????" Seems like a really bad idea if the facility has any windows whatsoever.
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Zwabu posted:It sounds like Thedacare is trying to apply economic pressure to the group of seven with this injunction to get them to come crawling back. This sure wouldn't make for an awkward workplace.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Ooh another update, the judge says some of the staff has to stay OR all of them are blocked from the new job until the original hospital replaces them gently caress that judge. Wisconsin has a serious chud judge problem these days and it's loving infuriating me.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:This sure wouldn't make for an awkward workplace. They employ many many more people than the target of the injunction. They will absolutely have a good chunk of their staff begin actively looking for new work over this because they have very publically stated "we will not pay market rates even if you have an offer, and we will attempt to punish you for trying to leave"
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I've been looking but is there any data on boosters when you have had 1st and 2nd shot Pfizer? In NZ and up for a booster soon and we have Pfizer or AZ as an option
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This is a massive ongoing issue in hospitals across the US right now as they're handing fistfuls of cash to traveling nurses to fill positions but not paying any extra to the current staff and in some cases canceling bonuses and punishing people who take time off, so of course the staff are all going "You're treating me like poo poo and paying them double, why the gently caress am I still here????" "the stone has been blessed" lmao
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can't wait to throw my blessed stone through the nearest window
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DickParasite posted:can't wait to throw my blessed stone through the nearest window you're making the buildings more holey lol
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Beccara posted:I've been looking but is there any data on boosters when you have had 1st and 2nd shot Pfizer? In NZ and up for a booster soon and we have Pfizer or AZ as an option It’s rare that anyone gets AstraZeneca’s shot as a booster. The UK puts out regular reports on how well the vaccines are holding up, and they have data for Pfizer and Moderna boosters for people who got either of those brands initially, as well as for people who got AstraZeneca, but there’s nothing for AZ as a booster. Starts on page twenty‐four. BNT162b2 is Pfizer, mRNA-1273 is Moderna, and ChAdOx1 is AstraZeneca. I suggest more Pfizer. I’m not saying it’s necessarily better, but we at least know how well it works.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Ooh another update, the judge says some of the staff has to stay OR all of them are blocked from the new job until the original hospital replaces them Wait for it. The workers will simply quit (again?) and the judge will begin fining them for every day they don't go back to the job they no longer want to work for. This judge is bonkers.
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Scarodactyl posted:I like rocks and those aren't even good rocks. Looks like leaverite to me.
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MrQwerty posted:lol if this ends up becoming one of the defining moments of the Roberts court, just an absolutely bone-chilling thought The one and only defining moment of the Roberts court was when he and his fellow Republicans knocked down the legal concept of precedent. No case has any lasting meaning as a result, and none of the judges feel any need to substantiate their opinions for the future (because future judges will ignore them in the same way).
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They should go back to work and spend the entire time playing cards, smoking cigarettes, and poo poo talking management. Oh I have to come in and do my job? bet What are they gonna do? Fire you so you can take that job at the other hospital, like you wanted to the entire time?
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Spaghett posted:They should go back to work and spend the entire time playing cards, smoking cigarettes, and poo poo talking management. Oh I have to come in and do my job? bet Unfortunately, unlike the suing hospital bosses, they probably actually care about the patients tho
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I would be so mad if they gave me a rock after 2 years of working as a nurse during a pandemic I'd prefer a simple gently caress YOU from management signed with poo, at least it would be more honest
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Yeah, I feel like I would be getting a heavy duty sling shot and finding out where the BSM/Head honcho office is from the outside
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One of the frontline healthworkers in CSPAM reported that their hospital was offering $20,000 bonuses for replacement staff to fill positions but no incentive bonuses for current staff to remain. They did get a Covid Clown in the staff lunchroom though!!  
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The rocks thing has to be because someone higher up pocketed the money that was supposed to go towards something, anything, less offensive and then in a panic printed out some bullshit and bought some in some rocks from home.
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Jestery posted:Yeah, I feel like I would be getting a heavy duty sling shot and finding out where the BSM/Head honcho office is from the outside Good news! Hospitals are a prime source for medical tubing, which tends to be a common slingshot bulding material!
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Funky See Funky Do posted:The rocks thing has to be because someone higher up pocketed the money that was supposed to go towards something, anything, less offensive and then in a panic printed out some bullshit and bought some in some rocks from home. very creative, have a raise
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QuarkJets posted:These kinds of employment contracts do exist, e.g. you can't accept an equivalent position for N years, but it sounds like these employees don't have such contracts. And for the record, the mere existence of these situations is also hosed up and is what actually created this mess. ThedaCare's executives know all of this and are just being vindictive, knowing that a court may permit the injunction while taking time to review the facts. And sure enough, that's what happened In some jurisdictions those can be considered a restraint of trade and not worth the paper they're printed on except in very limited circumstances (i.e. you're quitting your job to start a business that will be competing with your former employer). Dunno if that's the case in the US though.
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It's definitely the case in Australia, I've signed one every job I've had and just ignore them because they are worthless clauses. Working for a consultancy we had at least 4 people take permanent jobs directly for the client they were currently working full time for while I was there. I never once heard of any court action being taken against them or the client (although we stopped sending good people there)
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During some critical staff shortages we had at my work (not medical, and who are we kidding, we're still painfully short), our boss had us do random poo poo every week, like gathering all of us in the main office and collectively dance to awful music or other "silly" poo poo. I have no doubt it came from a place of caring, but it was such humilating and embarassing garbage that it had the total opposite effect. It eventually turned into a "name that tune" contest that actually was a little fun. It ran for about a year before we got too busy again and it fell off. mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Jan 23, 2022 |
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"The work is destroying us! We're all exhausted and can't cope. The pay is barely enough to survive on." "Can I offer you a rock in this trying time?"
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A reporter in San Mateo county found several large dumps each with hundreds and hundreds of pallets of PPE worth millions dollars that had been left out in the open weather for months and been ruined. Looks like it'll all have to be shredded and sent to landfill because it's no longer fit for purpose. Most of it was imported by a company who couldn't find anyone to buy the stock so they shredded it to recoup some of the tariffs they paid on it, one of the ruined caches was left in a parking lot by a hospital because they didn't have space to store in under cover. Looks like the PPE at the hospital might have been supplied by the county https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQe-uChUXHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lel5cqrD_k
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This is a massive ongoing issue in hospitals across the US right now as they're handing fistfuls of cash to traveling nurses to fill positions but not paying any extra to the current staff and in some cases canceling bonuses and punishing people who take time off, so of course the staff are all going "You're treating me like poo poo and paying them double, why the gently caress am I still here????" My job has absolutely no comparison to the shittiness being endured by the medical profession right now, but this reminds me of the mantra of “resilience” being chanted by my company’s management as we in supply chain enjoy horrible lead times, drastic price increases, general resentment by manufacturing (due to lacking components to assemble and ship product), and plummeting internal metrics, in exchange for the standard annual 2-3% wage increase.
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Booster trip report: I am triple Pfizer as of Friday. Everyone has been telling me the booster kicked their rear end, so I was prepared to have a poo poo weekend. Second dose gave me a screaming headache, a brief moment of dizziness, a sore arm, and what felt like a golf ball in my armpit. Got the booster Friday afternoon and was waiting for the same to happen, and the headache creeped in a few hours later and I could feel some stiffness in my neck, but my arm didn't even get sore until like 9PM. Went to bed thinking "This isn't so bad so far." Woke up with NO headache, but I did have a back ache (which is something I get every single time my immune system does a thing) so I put my heating pad on it, still had the stiff neck, and I had a really sore arm and my armpit was already visibly swollen, but otherwise was still thinking "Not bad at all" Then I guess my immune system got to work because holy poo poo. I don't know if it was related but I had literally no appetite. I forced myself to eat a couple pieces of cheese but just couldn't even imagine eating something more substantial. I don't think I ever got a fever or chills, but the lack of eating did slow me down a bit and made me feel a bit cold. I didn't even have enough focus to play games, so I retired to the couch with a big fluffy warm blanket and zoned out watching nostalgic movies from the 90s all day. (Tremors still holds up today, somehow, btw. Also Hook is great even though I slept through the ending) Around noon the vax shoulder started giving me sharp stabbing pains. That progressed to knee aches, and then hip aches. I know people always talk about joint pain when getting the flu or whatever, but I've never actually experienced it myself before. I finally broke down and took a tylenol. Tylenol is a magical wonderful medication that cleared EVERYTHING up. My arm was still sore, and there was still a golf ball in my armpit, but everything else resolved within an hour. I even got my appetite back and had to drag my rear end off the couch to make dinner. Then I took an edible and had the most amazing couch nap right before bed  I still have the golf ball armpit this morning but no other aches.
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And in other news, vaccines are magical things that prevent all infection so BC has given up trying to isolate COVID I guess: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-hospital-sharing-rooms-1.6324385 Or they're ensuring that every room is a COVID room by just giving you COVID when you arrive...
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I just got whiplash from listening to Bill Maher’s latest oeuvre I guess he’s super done with the pandemic? It’s not anti-vax, I don’t know what’s the term for “vaxxed and ready to gently caress and suck and hate masks” He starts off mentioning “that face diaper” and goes from there Guest Bari Weiss from the NYT is indistinguishable from a Trump supporter in 2020, in calling for everything to open and the UK dropping every protective measure is doing it right and so on. “A lot of democrats think like me but are afraid to be called Trumpers” Bill Maher is all “I can still get Covid if I’m vaccinated! Fail! Restaurants! Florida’s done it right! Same deaths as NY, no masks, California sux! FREEDOM FROM MASKS!” The guest representative Ritchie something from NY is the only one going “uhhh guys, 850k people died, a lot of them in NY” Bari Weiss response : “ONLY 803 CHILDREN DIED”  It’s more surreal when audience claps after every mildly argumentative phrase https://overcast.fm/+s-Y-BTWJA Imagine one child, dying, how painful that is for their family, receiving the news, the funeral, wondering why they had to suffer and pass just because Bill Maher had to go to Waffle House, then multiply by 800 I’m only halfway thru
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