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kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
Everyone will make it into the bracket

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Dutchy
Jul 8, 2010

kalensc posted:

Speaking of bad scheduling luck, Duutchy has the most extreme case. 3rd highest in points for, 3rd lowest in points against, and fate & luck conspired to give them a 6-7 record so far.



Man imagine where I'd be if I'd gotten more than 0 points this year from my #1 pick

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
Dispersal Draft

All picks will be made in this thread. Simply quote this post and confirm your team name and preferred player (that has not yet been selected).

The selection order will be:



And the selections will be made from this list:



Note that you are not obligated to make a selection if there are no desirable players left when it's your turn.

We want to have the players dispersed before the end of Sunday, so that we can have all the tinkering done before the start of the new week.

Thanks!

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
? Why aren't Uruk-Hai Post Offense's players getting redistributed as well? No login in over eight weeks

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
In order to make the tournament work we need one more living team (which is why I was trying to find someone else or hoping one of the inactive players wanted to return). Seemed like it would be better for it to be a defeatable challenge rather than a team that was either too good or too bad to me (Kale's stats suggest if semi-properly managed it would be about a just-below-median team). I'm definitely open to feedback about it though if y'all don't agree.

Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

as a compromise all of us can band together and hunt cream for sport

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
Based on consultations with Rick, the Uruk-Hai Post Offense will draft Karl-Anthony Towns.

BananaBreakfast is up next!



Edit: motherfucker I hit Post like 6 hours ago

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
So it turns out that Fleaflicker's Help Guide states a lot of things that don't really work as presented.

Need to edit MLK Day rosters after the fact? No problem!

Want the Scores to immediately update and reflect those roster changes? Nope, can only do that after the week ends!

Want to remove teams mid-season? Sure! Want the prior results to remain unaffected? No chance!

And so on, so forth...

In hindsight I should have made a fake league and used it as my Dev Mode to try poo poo without any risk. Ah well, onto Plan Ç!

I took the standings thru Week 14 and made 6 pods of 2 (top2, next2, ...). We'll all play 1 team from each pod over 6 weeks, which forms a balanced half-round-robin.

Then I looked at individual games from the first 13 weeks to find the closest outcomes, and set up rematches during these 6 weeks.


(Legend is in the top-left corner.)

Shadowfax is King Clutch
EricCartman is the Heartbreak Kid

So the !!! will nearly all be scheduled anew, and then the rest of the pairings will fill in the gaps.

kalensc fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 22, 2022

Dutchy
Jul 8, 2010
I honestly had no idea I'd been losing so many close matchups because I've just been like "scramble to beat the median and stay above water until Zion comes back (lol)"

Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

Funnily enough, despite all the narrow wins I did have, when we played you stomped me into dirt

Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

hrrm that chart says i only have one close loss but all of my losses have been because my opponent got insanely lucky even tho i played and drafted perfectly? curious

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

。Hola SEA!


Dejan has a lot of very similarly good guys but i guess i'll take the easy out and pick Lamelo

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
E: i'm dumb

Rick fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jan 22, 2022

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby

Rick posted:

Sorry, Cart submitted picks I just got too busy making an awful trade (for me I realized) to remember to post:

Lamleo, they pick LaMelo

(Psst....Balrog / RedRox picks before Cart)

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Lol poo poo.

I edited it out

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook
lol I知 so confused. So Lamelo is still free? Now I just feel mean taking him so I値l have Haliburton instead.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
That is nice of you!

I guess Cart picks LaMelo then.

Rick fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Jan 22, 2022

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Lol what is happening

Lamelo was taken by DeimosRising (Ho! Jim) with the 2nd selection

DeimosRising posted:

Dejan has a lot of very similarly good guys but i guess i'll take the easy out and pick Lamelo

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
pre:
## TeamName SAUsername DraftedPlayer
-- -------- ---------- -------------
01 Uruk-Hai Rick/Kalen K-A Towns
02 Ho! JimB DeimosRisi Lamelo Ball
03 Balrog B RedRox     ?
04 BoromirD CartMounta ?
05 The Orcs Ghost Dog  ?
06 EricCart duutchy
07 You Tolk TheMaestro
08 SaruHoop Emotionles
09 RondoHav rivetz
10 DurinCou Rick
11 Shadowfa Chronicles
12 SaruBlew kalensc

Available Players:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
T.J. Warren
T.J. McConnell
Christian Wood
Karl-Anthony Towns
Pascal Siakam
Jarrett Allen
Jonathan Isaac
Robert Williams
Patrick Williams
Tyrese Halliburton
Lamelo Ball

kalensc fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 22, 2022

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

。Hola SEA!


kalensc posted:

Lol what is happening

Lamelo was taken by DeimosRising (Ho! Jim) with the 2nd selection

Guess I知 on some ignore lists :ohdear:

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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DeimosRising posted:

Guess I’m on some ignore lists :ohdear:

Haha

I think Rick's original message (now edited) was started before you drafted Lamelo, but not submitted right away and so he was unaware. And then everything else domino'ed from that minor goof. Anyways, it seems sorted now, just need RedRox to see the update.




As for scheduling, I went through the 36 "pair squares" (the 2x2 boxes) to finalize the matchups. If a !!! was in a pair square then it would make the schedule, and thus the other two teams in the pair square would as well. If no !!!, then the ! game would occur. If neither, then the *. And if there were zero markings then it was whichever seemed most logical.



Example: Orc Setting Picks had a very narrow loss vs Shadowfax (pink !!! cell) so they will rematch. The other two teams in their pair-square were Saruman Blew 3-1 and EricCartman. That will also be added to the schedule, and the cell is now colored light yellow.

One problem arose: the temporary schedule made for this week (back when the plan was 2 divisions and so on) has 3 matches that aren't indicated on the grid. I've filled those in with bright green. Ideally, those 6 teams would be rearranged to fit the grid, so as to not break the symmetry inherent in the design:


(Note: there are 4 unique ways to pair these 6 teams)

That being said, I didn't want to make these scheduling changes unannounced and surprise half the league when they logged in. That'd be a rather frustrating thing to see, especially if the GM hadn't seen this post before checking the standings/scores.

So, there's three ways to go about this:

(1) select the schedule option which fits the grid while minimizing the average change in lead/deficit per GM;

(2) select the schedule option which fits the grid while minimizing the average new lead/deficit per game;

(3) randomly select one of the four options.

(1) would compare each GM's lead/deficit vs the temporary opponent vs the lead/deficit with possible new opponent, and average the differences. Best Option: SaruHoop vs Rondo, Balrog vs EricCart, Boromir vs The Orcs

(2) would just look at the each of the four optiins and average the current score margins of the three matchups. Best Option: SaruHoop vs EricCart, Boromir vs Balrog, Rondo vs The Orcs

(3) would be governed by a fateful pair of coin flips.

Guess it will depend on if anyone has a strong preference, or if they all seem fine to y'all so I should just select one and make the edits.

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
gently caress me am I glad I"m not in charge of this poo poo. Thanks you guys

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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rivetz posted:

gently caress me am I glad I"m not in charge of this poo poo. Thanks you guys

Hah, well I am looking at everything from an overly analytical perspective. The sports league I coordinate remains closed due to Covid, so those sates my stats-reviewing and schedule-balancing cravings.




I PMed RedRox to confirm if they still wanted Halliburton after we sorted out the confusion.

CartMountain sent their rankings so I'll be able to confirm their pick.

If anyone else wants to send me their Top X list by PM feel free! Could help advance things.

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook
Yeah thanks for sorting this and yes I choose Haliburton.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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RedRox confirmed via PM.
CartM also via PM.
Ghost Dog is up.

pre:
## TeamName SAUsername DraftedPlayer
-- -------- ---------- -------------
01 Uruk-Hai Rick/Kalen K-A Towns
02 Ho! JimB DeimosRisi Lamelo Ball
03 Balrog B RedRox     T. Halliburton
04 BoromirD CartMounta Pascal Siakam
05 The Orcs Ghost Dog  ?
06 EricCart duutchy    ?
07 You Tolk TheMaestro ?
08 SaruHoop Emotionles ?
09 RondoHav rivetz     ?
10 DurinCou Rick       ?
11 Shadowfa Chronicles ?
12 SaruBlew kalensc    ?

Available Players:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
T.J. Warren
T.J. McConnell
Christian Wood
Karl-Anthony Towns
Pascal Siakam
Jarrett Allen
Jonathan Isaac
Robert Williams
Patrick Williams
Tyrese Halliburton
Lamelo Ball

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
MLK adjustments:

I looked at the rosters that were set to see if anyone was notably disadvantaged. My criteria were as follows:

- a spot in the starting lineup was empty, or filled with a player that was on IR before tip-off;

- a player playing that day was on the bench, was on the taxi squad AND another rookie was free for a swap, or was on IR but was healthy AND could be activated without cutting another player.

I did not consider situations where a line-up with 10 active players scored a suboptimal total. Hindsight plays too big a factor there IMO (and FWIW my roster falls in this category, with 210 points on the sidelines).

So, these values would represent the "missing" points that should have been earned on MLK Jr Day, and the adjusted totals.

pre:
TeamName MisPt Adj.Tot Notes

SaruBlew 00.00 1628.96 No open spots
Shadowfa 00.00 1326.64 No extra pts
DurinCou 40.83 1377.93 Adebayo off IR
RondoHav 33.50 1291.25 Kuminga to Taxi
SaruHoop 23 50 1402.63 Sengun to Taxi
YouTolki 37.67 1434.76 Hayw off Bench
EricCart 00.00 1355.70 No extra pts
The.Orcs 00.00 1253.87 No open spots
BoromirD 00.00 1391.86 No open spots
BalrogBa 49.67 1387.93 Bled, Rob off Ben
HoJimBoy 66.66 1374.26 Valan off Bench

And when taking those into consideration, the best schedule option becomes clear, as the all current leaders stay ahead (albeit by new margins):

RondoHav vs SaruHoop
BalrogBa vs EricCart
TheOrcs vs Boromir

I can adjust the schedules now, but the MLK edits won't be possible until the week ends. Thus, please keep in mind that the scoreboard is missing the following info:

Durin gained a net 3.16pts vs YouTolk
Rondo gained a net 10.00pts vs SaruHoop
Balrog gained a net 49.67pts vs EricCart
Ho-Jim gained 66.66 and Uruk-Hai is TBD but cannot possibly catch up.

The other matchups have no edits.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

DeimosRising posted:

Guess I知 on some ignore lists :ohdear:

Lol I just am dumb when it comes to drafting for other people.

Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

jarret allen pls and thank you

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Haha the two abandoned teams are still being considered for the Median even after I removed them from the schedule.

Giving out 7 Median wins among 12 teams feels inequitable. And given that some GMs have made adds/drops solely due to the median, dropping it entirely isn't an option.

Guess I'll be do some weekly MacGyver poo poo to make the median split it 6 and 6. Awarding one of the two phantom teams 2k points would be a solution. What a silly conundrum.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Duutchy is up.

pre:
## TeamName SAUsername DraftedPlayer
-- -------- ---------- -------------
01 Uruk-Hai Rick/Kalen K-A Towns
02 Ho! JimB DeimosRisi Lamelo Ball
03 Balrog B RedRox     T. Halliburton
04 BoromirD CartMounta Pascal Siakam
05 The Orcs Ghost Dog  Jarrett Allen
06 EricCart duutchy    ?
07 You Tolk TheMaestro ?
08 SaruHoop Emotionles ?
09 RondoHav rivetz     ?
10 DurinCou Rick       ?
11 Shadowfa Chronicles ?
12 SaruBlew kalensc    ?

Available Players:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
T.J. Warren
T.J. McConnell
Christian Wood
Karl-Anthony Towns
Pascal Siakam
Jarrett Allen
Jonathan Isaac
Robert Williams
Patrick Williams
Tyrese Halliburton
Lamelo Ball

kalensc fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 22, 2022

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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The Maestro has PMs off so hopefully they have been following the thread. =)

Dutchy
Jul 8, 2010
Gimme Christian Wood

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Dutchy responsibly sent me picks but I have been unexpectedly busy all day too.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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Art/Quote by: Rubby
pre:
## TeamName SAUsername DraftedPlayer
-- -------- ---------- -------------
01 Uruk-Hai Rick/Kalen K-A Towns
02 Ho! JimB DeimosRisi Lamelo Ball
03 Balrog B RedRox     T. Halliburton
04 BoromirD CartMounta Pascal Siakam
05 The Orcs Ghost Dog  Jarrett Allen
06 EricCart duutchy    Christian Wood
07 You Tolk TheMaestro ?
08 SaruHoop Emotionles ?
09 RondoHav rivetz     ?
10 DurinCou Rick       ?
11 Shadowfa Chronicles ?
12 SaruBlew kalensc    ?

Available Players:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
T.J. Warren
T.J. McConnell
Christian Wood
Karl-Anthony Towns
Pascal Siakam
Jarrett Allen
Jonathan Isaac
Robert Williams
Patrick Williams
Tyrese Halliburton
Lamelo Ball

kalensc fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jan 23, 2022

The Maestro
Feb 21, 2006

kalensc posted:

The Maestro has PMs off so hopefully they have been following the thread. =)

I got ya lemme think on it for a few mins

Edit: I値l take Rob Williams

The Maestro fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jan 23, 2022

EmotionlessThug
Feb 14, 2012

i want dinwiddie then

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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pre:
## TeamName SAUsername DraftedPlayer
-- -------- ---------- -------------
01 Uruk-Hai Rick/Kalen K-A Towns
02 Ho! JimB DeimosRisi Lamelo Ball
03 Balrog B RedRox     T. Halliburton
04 BoromirD CartMounta Pascal Siakam
05 The Orcs Ghost Dog  Jarrett Allen
06 EricCart duutchy    Christian Wood
07 You Tolk TheMaestro R. Williams
08 SaruHoop Emotionles S. Dinwiddie
09 RondoHav rivetz     ?
10 DurinCou Rick       ?
11 Shadowfa Chronicles ?
12 SaruBlew kalensc    ?

Available Players:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
T.J. Warren
T.J. McConnell
Christian Wood
Karl-Anthony Towns
Pascal Siakam
Jarrett Allen
Jonathan Isaac
Robert Williams
Patrick Williams
Tyrese Halliburton
Lamelo Ball

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
decisions, decisions

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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kalensc posted:

MLK adjustments:
pre:
TeamName MisPt Adj.Tot Notes

SaruBlew 00.00 1628.96 No open spots
Shadowfa 00.00 1326.64 No extra pts
DurinCou 40.83 1377.93 Adebayo off IR
RondoHav 33.50 1291.25 Kuminga to Taxi
SaruHoop 23 50 1402.63 Sengun to Taxi
YouTolki 37.67 1434.76 Hayw off Bench
EricCart 00.00 1355.70 No extra pts
The.Orcs 00.00 1253.87 No open spots
BoromirD 00.00 1391.86 No open spots
BalrogBa 49.67 1387.93 Bled, Rob off Ben
HoJimBoy 66.66 1374.26 Valan off Bench

Durin gained a net 3.16pts vs YouTolk
Rondo gained a net 10.00pts vs SaruHoop
Balrog gained a net 49.67pts vs EricCart

True scores heading into today's games:

pre:
BalrogBall  1422.76 + 49.67 = 1472.43
EricCartma  1395.70 + 00.00 = 1395.70

YouTolkien  1473.09 + 37.67 = 1510.76
DurinCough  1451.61 + 40.83 = 1492.44

RondoHaveN  1257.75 + 33.50 = 1291.25
SaruHooped  1421.45 + 23.50 = 1444.95

Ho!JimBoyl  1431.26 + 66.66 = 1497.92
Uruk-Hai    TBD, will not impact Median


SaruBlew31  1885.29
Shadowfax.  1527.63
YouTolkien  1510.76
Ho!JimBoyl  1497.92
DurinCough  1492.44
BalrogBall  1472.43
SaruHooped  1444.95
-------------------
BoromirDon  1437.20
EricCartma  1395.70
TheOrcsWer  1320.87
RondoHaveN  1291.25
Uruk-HaiPo  1234.56 let's say
TomBombadi  0987.65 let's say
Washington  0000.00

In retrospect, the Median has been distributing 7 wins among the 11 active teams the whole season, as the bottom 3 squads have earned zero. So nothing will really change if there's two guaranteed 0.00 scores every week. Hurray, no more retro edits needed after the MLK fix is completed tomorrow. :sax:


(Edit: What the hell is "hurray", some second-rate portmanteau of hurrah and hooray? drat I need more coffee)

kalensc fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jan 23, 2022

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Ghost Dog
Aug 17, 2016

are we gonna have to do anything to our rosters to let you put the new dudes on, idk if that was said. do not respond to this with a chart or more than 20 words thank you godbless

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