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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:lmao at Lindaman winning a hair vs hair match then getting his haircut anyway. lol wtf that's great
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abraham linksys posted:are bulk orchestra any good because they certainly have the greatest tag team name of 2021-2 They have Nobu Shimatani who rules, but any contender for best tag name faces stiff competition as long as Strong BJ exists
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abraham linksys posted:are bulk orchestra any good because they certainly have the greatest tag team name of 2021-2 Yes, they rule Lindaman why did you do?
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abraham linksys posted:are bulk orchestra any good because they certainly have the greatest tag team name of 2021-2 Yes they own and their promos are amazing
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fez_machine posted:Malakai Black is here! He'd be an acceptable addition to the roster.
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forkboy84 posted:Did the stream just go black for anyone else? Yeah, and it was everyone judging by people typing "EVIL!?!" in the chat
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Over the past few hours @black_eye2 on Twitter has been posting the results of his Net Pro Wrestling Awards. They've been going for years and generally are voted on by a much smarkier fanbase than the ShuPro Awards are. I'll post them up here for anyone who's interested in what Japanese smarks are into right now. MVP 1. Shingo Takagi - NJPW (1490 points) 2. Keiji Mutoh - NOAH (661 points) 3. Katsuhiko Nakajima - NOAH (619 points) 4. Konosuke Takeshita - DDT 5. El Desperado - NJPW Match of the Year 1. Keiji Mutoh vs. Go Shiozaki - NOAH 2.12 (723 points) 2. Kenoh vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima - NOAH 11.28 (320 points) 3. Konosuke Takeshita vs. Yuji Okabayashi - DDT 12.26 (290 points) 4. Shingo Takagi vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi - NJPW 7.25 5. Tam Nakano vs. Giulia - Stardom 3.3 Best Promotion 1. NJPW (1424 points) 2. NOAH (1410 points) 3. Stardom (699 points) 4. DDT (604 points) 5. AEW (518 points) Best Team 1. Dangerous Tekkers - NJPW (1529 points) 2. Pheromones - DDT (429 points) 3. Business Tag (Kento Miyahara & Yuma Aoyagi) - AJPW (389 points) 4. Kongoh - NOAH 5. Hirooki Goto & YOSHI-HASHI - NJPW Best Show 1. NOAH Back to the Budokan 2.12 (695 points) 2. CyberFight Festival 6.6 (608 points) 3. Stardom All Star Dream Cinderella 3.3 (373 points) 4. Muscle 5 9.1 5. AEW All Out Best Rookie (Debut within the last three years) 1. Yuki Arai - TJPW (643 points) 2. Saya Kamitani - Stardom (612 points) 3. Yasutaka Yano - NOAH (442 points) 4. SB KENTo - Dragon Gate 5. Atsuki Aoyagi - AJPW GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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I see we found the DDT fans.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Over the past few hours @black_eye2 on Twitter has been posting the results of his Net Pro Wrestling Awards. They've been going for years and generally are voted on by a much smarkier fanbase than the ShuPro Awards are. I'll post them up here for anyone who's interested in what Japanese smarks are into right now. Jesus Christ Japanese smarks, what is wrong with you?
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Stall_19 posted:I see we found the DDT fans. Still looking for the DragonGate fans.
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Stall_19 posted:I see we found the DDT fans. DDT has a bunch of rad teams in DisasterBox, Smile Pissari, Eruption, 37KAMIINA. It's unfathomable to me that 429 people are saying "yep, the perverts. They're my go to tag team"
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To supplement George W Bushi's polished post. Here's my janky listing (mistakes abound!) of the complete rankings because hell I like to see Gatoh Move/ChocoPro on an awards list The Net Pro Awards 2021 (If I remember correctly this is the most smarky of the Japanese end of year awards as it's largely internet fans) [Deepl Translations] 441 valid voters For each category, votes are calculated as follows: 1st place = 10 points, 2nd place = 6 points, 3rd place = 3 points. Best Wrestling Related Media/Social Media Account/Streaming Service No. 1 "Crazy Monkey" (movie) [The Jun Kasai Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhGNnvvCX4] 1097 points [83/37/15]. No. 2 "The Story of My House" (TBS Drama) [Japanese TV Drama about a wrestler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5kh_u1rbEI] 628 points [37/33/20]. No. 3 The Great O-Kahn (Pro wrestler) 369 points [18/20/23]. No. 4 Shinnichi-chan. No. 5 ABEMA ・Fighting Channel No. 6 WRESTLE UNIVERSE No. 7 Weekly Pro Wrestling No. 8 "Pro-Wrestling Midnight Express: Pro-Wrestlers are Traveling Entertainers Who Go Around the World" TAJIRI (Book) No. 9 Toru Inada No. 10 New Japan Pro-Wrestling World No. 11 Tokyo Sports No. 12 Gatoh Move - Choco Pro Channel No. 13 Saitoh's Pro Wrestling No. 14 Jun Kasai's autobiography "CRAZY MONKEY" No. 15 Emi Sakura distribution and video, AEW reports, etc. No. 16 "VADER TIME Vader Time: The Truth about the Emperor Warrior" No. 16 (tie) Burning Fighting Spirit Last Stand - Message from Antonio Inoki's sickbed (NHK BS Premium) No. 18 Kyushu Pro Wrestling, YouTube No. 19 Kinnikuman No. 19 We are STARDOM! ～The world is watching! Women's Pro Wrestling" (MX, etc.) No. 19 Document 72 Hours "Local Pro-Wrestling: 3-Day Travel Tour" & Additional Coverage / 202 (NHK) No. 22 Che Zibara of Sasadango Machine No. 39 BAKATSURU SPACE Best Rookie No. 1 Yuki Arai (TJPW) 643 points [40/32/17]. No. 2 Saya Kamiya (Stardom) 612 points [45/23/8]. No. 3 Yasutaka Yano (NOAH) 442 points [34/11/12]. No. 4 SB KENTo (Dragon Gate) No. 5 Ryosei Aoyagi (All Japan) No. 6 Sayaka Unagi (Stardom) No. 7 Yuto Nakajima (New Japan) No. 8 Gabriel Kidd (New Japan) No. 9 Teruo Fujita (New Japan) No. 10 Ryohei Oiwa (New Japan) No. 11 Maika (Stardom) No. 12 Kosuke Sato (Dai Nippon) No. 13 Tiger Queen (SSPW) No. 14 Manji Tamura(All Japan) No. 15 Lady C (Stardom) No. 16 Kazumasa Onizuka (GLEAT) No. 17 Strong Machine J (Dragon Gate) No. 18 Suzume(TJPW) No. 18 (tie) Hideki Okatani (DDT) No. 20 Hayato Tamura (GLEAT) Best Show No. 1 02-12 NOAH, Nippon Budokan 695 points [53/22/11]. No. 2 06-06 Cyber Fight Festival, Saitama Super Arena 608 points [35/35/16]. No. 3 03-03 Stardom, Nippon Budokan 373 points [22/19/13]. No. 4 09-01 Muscle Korakuen No. 5 09-05 AEW PPV "ALL OUT No. 6 01-04 New Japan, Tokyo Dome No. 7 07-25 New Japan, Tokyo Dome No. 8 12-26 DDT Yoyogi 2 No. 9 01-05 New Japan, Tokyo Dome No. 10 08-01 Dragon Gate Kobe World No. 11 10-09 Tokyo Women's, Ota-ku, Tokyo No. 12-12-29 Stardom, Ryogoku Kokugikan No. 13 10-16 All Japan, Ota-ku, Tokyo No. 13 (tie) 11-13 AEW PPV "FULL GEAR" No. 15 06-07 New Japan, Osaka Castle No. 16 11-28 NOAH, Yoyogi 2 No. 17 12-15 New Japan, Ryogoku Kokugikan No. 18 06-26 All Japan, Ota-ku, Tokyo No. 18 (tie) 06-12 Stardom, Ota-ku, Tokyo No. 20 08-21 DDT, Fujitsu Stadium Kawasaki No. 21 08-22 Mitsuru Sato 21.5th Anniversary Tournament, Fujitsu Stadium Kawasaki No. 25 07-01 GLEAT, TDC Hall Best Tag Team/Stable No. 1 Dangerous Tekkers -Taichi & Zack Sabre Jr. (New Japan) 1529 points [134/27/9]. No. 2 Pheromones (DDT) 429 points [24/19/25]. No. 3 Business Tag Team - Kento Miyahara & Yuma Aoyagi (All Japan) 389 points [26/16/11]. No. 4 Kongo (NOAH) No. 5 Yohoki Goto & YOSHI-HASHI (New Japan) No. 6 Yoshinari Ogawa & HAYATA(NOAH) No. 7 UNITED EMPIRE (New Japan) No. 8 Takuya Nomura & Fuminori Abe (Dainippon & BASARA) No. 9 Saki-sama & Mei San-Michel (TJPW) No. 10 Yoshinobu Kanemaru & El Desperado (New Japan) No. 11 Sugiura Gun (NOAH) No. 12 Yuka Sakazaki & Mizuki (TJPW) No. 13 STRONG HEARTS (GLEAT) No. 14 M's alliance (NOAH) No. 15 COSMIC ANGELS (Stardom) No. 16 Lucha Brothers (AEW) No. 17 Keiji Mutoh & Masamichi Marufuji (NOAH) No. 17 (tie) Tetsuya Naito & SANADA (New Japan) No. 19 Suruga Mei & Baliyan Akki (Choco Pro) No. 20 Julia & Shuri (Stardom) No. 21 Mitsuru Sato & Keita Yano (Pancrase M & Wallaby) No. 24 Dark Order (AEW) Best Promotion No. 1 New Japan Pro-Wrestling 1424 points [107/44/30]. No. 1 for 11 consecutive years No. 2 Pro-Wrestling NOAH 1410 points total [90/64/42]. No. 3 Stardom 699 points [33/46/31]. Highest ranking ever No. 4 DDT 604 points No. 5 AEW 518 points No. 6 Tokyo Women's Pro Wrestling 360 points No. 7 Freedom's 260 points No. 8 All Japan Pro Wrestling 254 points No. 9 Dragon Gate 223 points No. 10 MASUSU 213 points No. 11 GLEAT No.12 Dainippon Pro-Wrestling No. 13 Chocolate Pro Wrestling No. 14 Ice Ribbon [YOU LOVE TO SEE IT!] No. 15 Kyushu Pro Wrestling No. 16 Hard Hit No. 17 Tenryu Project No. 18 2AW No. 19 Gambare☆Pro Wrestling No. 20 Sendai Girls No. 21 WWE No. 22 BASARA No. 23 ZERO1 Best Match No. 1 02-12 NOAH (Nippon Budokan) Keiji Mutoh vs Go Ushiozaki 723 points [54/23/15]. No. 2 11-28 NOAH (Yoyogi National Stadium) kenoh vs katsuhiko nakajima 320 points [17/19/12]. No. 3 12-26 DDT (National Yoyogi Arena 2nd) Yukinosuke Takeshita vs. Yuji Okabayashi 290 points [20/11/8] No. 4 07-25 Tokyo Dome Shingo Takagi vs Hiroshi Tanahashi No. 5 03-03 Nippon Budokan Tamu Nakano vs Julia No. 6 05-04 Fukuoka International Osprey vs Shingo Takagi No. 7 10-16 Ota Ward Jake Lee vs Kento Miyahara No. 8 09-30 Korakuen Zack vs Great O-Kahn No. 9 01-30 Aichi Prefecture Shingo Takagi vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi No. 10 04-11 DDT Korakuen Jun Akiyama vs. Dino Otoko No. 11 10-15 Bryan Danielson vs. Minoru Suzuki, USA No. 12 10-10 Osaka Prefecture Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Masamichi Marufuji No. 13 06-07 Osaka, Japan Shingo Takagi vs. Kazuchika Okada No. 14 06-12 Ota Ward, Japan Sami Hayashita vs. Shuri No. 15 11-13 USA Hangman Page vs. Kenny Omega No. 16 10-21 Nippon Budokan Katsuyori Shibata vs. Zack Sabre Jr. No. 17 09-22 USA Kenny Omega vs. Bryan Danielson No. 18 06-06 Saitama Yuka Sakazaki vs Miyu Yamashita No. 19 10-18 Korakuen Nomura Takuya vs. Daisuke Sekimoto No. 20 12-29 Ryogoku Kokugikan Shuri vs. Sami Hayashita MVP No. 1 Shingo Takagi (New Japan) 1490 points [119/39/22]. No. 2 Keiji Mutoh (NOAH) 661 points [34/42/23]. No. 3 Katsuhiko Nakajima (NOAH) 619 points [37/33/17] No. 4 Konosuke Takeshita (DDT) No. 5 El Desperado (New Japan) No. 6 Jake Lee (All Japan) No. 7 Sami Hayashita (Stardom) No. 8 Great O-Kahn (New Japan) No. 9 Jun Kasai (Freedom's) No. 10 Zack Sabre Jr. (New Japan) No. 11 Ken-O (NOAH) No. 12 Shuri (Stardom) No. 13 KENTA (New Japan) No. 14 Takuya Nomura (Dai Nippon) No. 15 Maki Ito (Tokyo Women's) No. 16 Miyu Yamashita (Tokyo Women's) No. 17 Kenny Omega (AEW) No. 18 Tam Nakano (Stardom) No.19 Bryan Danielson (AEW) No. 20 Tsukasa Fujimoto (Ice Ribbon) No. 21 YAMATO (Dragon Gate) No. 25 Suruga Mei (Gatoh Move) No. 27th Starlight Kid (Stardom) No. 27th (tie) Fuminori Abe (BASARA) No. 29 Nana Yamashita (Free) fez_machine fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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SG Bamboo posted:DDT has a bunch of rad teams in DisasterBox, Smile Pissari, Eruption, 37KAMIINA. It's unfathomable to me that 429 people are saying "yep, the perverts. They're my go to tag team" These other excellent teams don't even appear deep in the list. It seems like if you're a Japanese wrestling fan you either don't watch DDT, only love Pheromones, or appreciate tag team wrestling so you watch Dragon Gate and don't vote in popularity contests.
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Ice Ribbon below Gatoh Move is some real horseshit. But then so is the weirdos who like Pheromones & Keiji Mutoh. Clearly shifty voters imo. At some point I will learn why Google loves to translate Hikaru Sato's name as Mitsuru WWE finishing below Hard Hit is extremely enjoyable though. I think if I was doing my top 10 promotions it'd be like...NOAH, GLEAT, SEAdLINNNG, Dragongate, Freedoms, Stardom, All Japan, Ice Ribbon, New Japan, DDT but that's just off the top of my head. And I felt bad having DDT that low but I also couldn't fit 2AW in my top 10 so forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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forkboy84 posted:Ice Ribbon below Gatoh Move is some real horseshit. Yeah as much as I like to play up ChocoPro parochialism and the Emi vs. Tsukasa beef, Ice Ribbon had an unquestionably better complete year than ChocoPro and a more skilled roster in general. In any serious poll Ice Ribbon should be beating ChocoPro handily and Marvelous should be actually in contention just for the GEAism shows. No Hana Kimura Memorial show is also a travesty.
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Stall_19 posted:Still looking for the DragonGate fans. dragongate fans quite literally don’t know what a smark or half of the these promotions are and dg always does terrible in these sorts of awards. Doi’s bit about the fanbase previously being 90% women was rooted in truth (now it’s like 60% women, 25% their husbands or boyfriends and then 15% their kids).
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Best Promotion So I'm sure someone's asked this before, but how well known is American / Western wrestling in Japanese wrestling fandom? My base assumption is that it's roughly comparable to the fanbase of Japanese wrestling in American fandom, is this roughly accurate?
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