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This is good. https://twitter.com/freedoughnut/status/1490009906732310528?s=20&t=Bf4vradQmdzE9MJez-bwVA
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The first time I read it I tried hard not to spoiler myself or look up too much explanatory stuff or fandom memes, but this time through I’m taking my time about it so I can be sure I don’t miss anything important. And, lol the “Darkfriend Social”
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Feb 5, 2022 21:39
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I think she was, and wasn't she present at Elaida kicking down Siuan's door? She was. In fact, the Wheel Takes lady hates Danelle because she was smirking the whole time, so that reveal should be fun
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Feb 5, 2022 22:02
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Well of course she was smirking. She's going how loving stupid are you people I didn't even have to do anything
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Feb 5, 2022 22:05
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LionArcher posted:This is good. I appreciate that I'm in the same category as the character I use for my avatar. How do the rest of you people not eat 'em one stick at a time? Barbarians, I tell you. 
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Feb 5, 2022 22:18
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Well of course she was smirking. She's going how loving stupid are you people I didn't even have to do anything Which is why I believe she's the most competent.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:18
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She has a cool avatar, too. Though Semirhage's fire-lady is p good
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Thing is, Mesaana doesn't really DO anything. She lets Alviarin meddle a little, but mostly just keeps her head down and lets Elaida do all the real damage all by herself. Semirhage, on the other hand, gets her hands dirty killing the entire royal family of Seanchan (save Tuon), which takes an entire continent of armies and enslaved channelers off the board. The Seanchan in Westlands ain't getting reinforcements ever, not even once they learn Travelling and could go back home in an instant if they wanted to. The Seanchan Empire is hosed, and that was all Semirhage. Secondly, her sadism in using Rand to try to kill Min gets him to tap the True Power through his link with Moridin. That corruption, along with the psychological scars, push him into becoming Darth Rand for most of TGS, and if Rand's powers hadn't faltered at the exact moment he tried to Balefire-Nuke Ebou Dar, she would have turned him to the Dark and won the whole thing for the Dark One once and for all. By comparison, Mesaana twiddling her thumbs in the Tower, sipping tea, and watching the Aes Sedai tear themselves apart has negligible impact, especially since Egwene reverses all her progress in the span of an afternoon. Even if Rand managed to de-Darth himself, the Seanchan Empire is still hosed at the end of the series, after all.
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Feb 5, 2022 22:36
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I always wondered how crossing balefire streams managed to link Rand and Moridin. It seems like touching balefire streams would create a time paradox but beyond that idk
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Feb 5, 2022 22:44
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goethe.cx posted:I always wondered how crossing balefire streams managed to link Rand and Moridin. It seems like touching balefire streams would create a time paradox but beyond that idk *Loial voice* Ta’veren!
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Feb 5, 2022 22:59
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I think she was, and wasn't she present at Elaida kicking down Siuan's door? She was present for that yeah, just didn't think she was a sitter.
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Feb 5, 2022 23:11
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Hexel posted:That reminds me: why the hell did Lan’s bond pass to Myrelle if Moiraine did not die? Was it because she went “off world”? When the redstone gateway broke, there were no channels or connections between the westlands and the lands of the aelfinn, so the connection broke Is, i believe, roughly the offical answer. Might be wrong
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Feb 5, 2022 23:58
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Looks like we’ve got more evidence for a season 3 https://twitter.com/janyasedai/status/1490054983080759296?s=21
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imo Forsaken should be considered on how much they're in and add to the story whether they suck or not. So in my scientific analysis Moghedien is one of the best Chosen bar none. 
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Democratic Pirate posted:*Loial voice* Ta’veren! Wasn't Moridin's true power balefire? been awhile so maybe wrong. just a random question not about ta'veren Barreft fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 6, 2022 |
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Feb 6, 2022 00:25
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Moggy definitely gets more page time than anyone else which makes her feel a little more fleshed out and less of a caricature.
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jng2058 posted:Thing is, Mesaana doesn't really DO anything. This still makes her one of the most effective of the forsaken, and also one of the smartest. Never interfere with your enemies when they're in the process of destroying themselves. She interferes only as much as needed to keep the ball rolling.
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A lot of the male forsaken took over nations and states drawing mad attention to themselves and got destroyed with a quickness. Just lol at Be’lal The clever ones who stayed in the shadows lived longer and were more effective imo Need less resurrections too 
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Feb 6, 2022 01:01
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jng2058 posted:Thing is, Mesaana doesn't really DO anything. She lets Alviarin meddle a little, but mostly just keeps her head down and lets Elaida do all the real damage all by herself. Semirhage, on the other hand, gets her hands dirty killing the entire royal family of Seanchan (save Tuon), which takes an entire continent of armies and enslaved channelers off the board. The Seanchan in Westlands ain't getting reinforcements ever, not even once they learn Travelling and could go back home in an instant if they wanted to. The Seanchan Empire is hosed, and that was all Semirhage. Secondly, her sadism in using Rand to try to kill Min gets him to tap the True Power through his link with Moridin. That corruption, along with the psychological scars, push him into becoming Darth Rand for most of TGS, and if Rand's powers hadn't faltered at the exact moment he tried to Balefire-Nuke Ebou Dar, she would have turned him to the Dark and won the whole thing for the Dark One once and for all. But Mat and Tuon are going to go put the Empire back together.
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Hexel posted:A lot of the male forsaken took over nations and states drawing mad attention to themselves and got destroyed with a quickness. Just lol at Be’lal I so wish we had the outriggers, cause you know Moggy would somehow escape Seanchan. That's my headcanon.
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Feb 6, 2022 01:07
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AnEdgelord posted:Edit: honestly the bigger shock to me is that Suroth says that darkfriend Sul'dam are an extreme rarity I think that's a way of saying people who enslave others don't have to be satan worshippers, humans who make other chattel can simply come from the horrors of human society.
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Feb 6, 2022 01:14
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Yeah I actually had it wrong: Mesaana was the one who spearheaded the tower split, although it’s impossible to figure that out until the very end of the series, which is why I forgot. When Elaida kicks in the door to arrest her, Suian is musing over the fact that Danelle (Mesaana), being an absent minded brown, had hired too many stonemasons for a certain repair job. This turned out to be cover for sneaking a small army of mercenaries into the city to seize the bridges.
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Jaxyon posted:I think that's a way of saying people who enslave others don't have to be satan worshippers, humans who make other chattel can simply come from the horrors of human society. I think the other issue is that all it takes is your Damane mentioning the wrong thing to the wrong person to expose you
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Feb 6, 2022 01:32
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jng2058 posted:Thing is, Mesaana doesn't really DO anything. It's political judo. In fact, "don't touch anything when it's all coming up milhouse" is really hard to do for a lot of people.
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Barreft posted:Wasn't Moridin's true power balefire? been awhile so maybe wrong. just a random question not about ta'veren It doesn’t say, but Moridin uses the true power almost exclusively, so it’s a solid guess
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Feb 6, 2022 02:54
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goethe.cx posted:It doesn’t say, but Moridin uses the true power almost exclusively, so it’s a solid guess I'm reasonably sure that Rand notes that he didn't feel saidin from him, nor see the weaves, which pretty much confirms it.
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Feb 6, 2022 02:54
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Hexel posted:I had forgotten about Fedwin Morr. Rand just put him down That scene is so hard to read. What was the line? "Min's eyes stung."
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Hexel posted:I had forgotten about Fedwin Morr. Rand just put him down oh god you just pinged my brain. that was so drat sad. e: “The Wisdom in my village could cure anything,” Rand said as he knelt beside Fedwin. Somehow, he managed to smile at the boy without taking his eyes from Taim. Fedwin smiled back happily and tried to take the cup, but Rand held it for him to drink. “She knows more about herbs than anybody I’ve ever met. I learned a little from her, which are safe, which not.” Fedwin sighed as Rand took the cup away and held the boy to his chest. “Sleep, Fedwin,” Rand murmured. It did seem that the boy was going to sleep. His eyes closed. His chest rose and fell more slowly. Slower. Until it stopped. The smile never left his lips. “A little something in the wine,” Rand said softly as he laid Fedwin down. Min’s eyes burned, but she would not cry. She would not! “You are harder than I thought,” Taim muttered. Rand smiled at him, a hard feral smile. “Add Corlan Dashiva to your list of deserters, Taim. Next time I visit the Black Tower, I expect to see his head on your Traitor’s Tree.” “Dashiva?” Taim snarled, his eyes widening in surprise. “It will be as you say. When next you visit the Black Tower.” That quickly, he recovered himself, all polished stone and poise once more. How she wished she could read her viewings of him. “Return to the Black Tower, and don’t come here again.” Standing, Rand faced the other man over Fedwin’s body. “I may be moving about for a while.” Taim’s bow was minuscule. “As you command.” As the door closed behind him, Min let out a long breath. “No point wasting time, and no time to waste,” Rand muttered. Kneeling in front of her, he took the crown and slipped it into the scrip with the other things. “Min, I thought I was the whole pack of hounds, chasing down one wolf after another, but it seems I’m the wolf.” “Burn you,” she breathed. Tangling both hands in his hair, she stared in his eyes. Now blue, now gray, a morning sky just at sunrise. And dry. “You can cry, Rand al’Thor. You won’t melt if you cry!” “I don’t have time for tears, either, Min,” he said gently. “Sometimes, the hounds catch the wolf and wish they hadn’t. Sometimes, he turns on them, or waits in ambush. But first, the wolf has to run.” “When do we go?” she asked. She did not let go of his hair. She was never going to let go of him. Never. Barreft fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Feb 6, 2022 |
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Ah, you left out how proud he was of protecting Min! Rand sat cross-legged on the bare stone floor, still covered in dust and scratches, his coat torn. His face might have been carved. He seemed to watch Fedwin without blinking. The boy was sitting on the floor, too, his legs sprawled out. Tongue caught between his teeth, Fedwin was concentrating on making a tower out of blocks of wood. Min swallowed hard. She could still remember the horror when she realized the boy “guarding” her now had the mind of a small child. The sadness remained, too—Light, he was only a boy! it was not right!—but she hoped Rand still had him shielded. It had not been easy, talking Fedwin into playing with those wooden blocks instead of pulling stones out of the walls with the Power to make a “big tower to keep you safe in.” And then she had sat guarding him until Rand came. Oh, Light, she wanted to cry. For Rand even more than Fedwin.
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Barreft posted:oh god you just pinged my brain. that was so drat sad. Ironically the Wisdom of his village ended up being able to cure that madness
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Jaxyon posted:Ironically the Wisdom of his village ended up being able to cure that madness Yeah you're right. drat.
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jng2058 posted:Thing is, Mesaana doesn't really DO anything. She lets Alviarin meddle a little, but mostly just keeps her head down and lets Elaida do all the real damage all by herself. Semirhage, on the other hand, gets her hands dirty killing the entire royal family of Seanchan (save Tuon), which takes an entire continent of armies and enslaved channelers off the board. The Seanchan in Westlands ain't getting reinforcements ever, not even once they learn Travelling and could go back home in an instant if they wanted to. The Seanchan Empire is hosed, and that was all Semirhage. Secondly, her sadism in using Rand to try to kill Min gets him to tap the True Power through his link with Moridin. That corruption, along with the psychological scars, push him into becoming Darth Rand for most of TGS, and if Rand's powers hadn't faltered at the exact moment he tried to Balefire-Nuke Ebou Dar, she would have turned him to the Dark and won the whole thing for the Dark One once and for all. It's probably the nicest thing Semiraghe ever did
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I'm part way through Tower of midnight and had forgotten just how incredibly horny Galad and Baerlain are the moment they see each other
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wtf I just had a vivid dream of watching the open to season 2 and it's Pura being led to Suroth on a leash
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I believe the S2 cold open will be the Gitara Moroso prophecy which was chopped from the original S1 script or the EOTW prologue.
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He sure did, but not until the igloo.
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silvergoose posted:He sure did, but not until the igloo. Ah yeah Aviendha popped his cherry didn't she  no wonder he wanted to get married
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silvergoose posted:He sure did, but not until the igloo. This is the horniest book thread
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rocketrobot posted:This is the horniest book thread drat straight Anyway back to the ishy vs mesaana black ajah discussion, this is the eotw passage though it is him talking and who knows if he's telling the truth: “Is that what they told you? Two thousand years ago I took my Trollocs across the world, and even among Aes Sedai I found those who knew despair, who knew the world could not stand before Shai’tan. For two thousand years the Black Ajah has dwelt among the others, unseen in the shadows. Perhaps even those who claim to help you.”
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