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Shwoo
Jul 21, 2011

I think I just liked the boarding school fantasy aspect, and also that video game about his psychological issues that he kept playing. The zero gravity sports stuff was cool, too. The part where he beats up bullies so badly that he accidentally kills them was kind of unpleasant to me, and not why I liked it as a teenager.

I guess there's a few different ways Ender's Game would appeal to younger readers. I remember liking Ender's Shadow as well, even though Bean's personality shift whenever he was in a scene from the original book was very noticeable.

Re: West of Eden, they're not even dinosaurs, they're mosasaurs. And I think only the females are sapient or something? I don't remember, it's been a while since I've read it. And there might have been something about LCDs made out of frogs. (Edit: I looked it up, and the males are sapient; their society is just extremely matriarchal)

Shwoo fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Feb 12, 2022

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I had already read it before we had to for school and I found it amusing that a story about gene-engineered children being grown to use as tactics officers was even considered. I had an English teacher who tried to be allowed to let us read the 43rd War in class, which I haven't reread since but iirc was basically the same concept of the psychological brutality of being a child soldier, but because it was about infantry I guess it was too brutal for the faculty. I'm pretty sure Uno has the same direct body count as Ender, and it's a less gruesome scene than beating someone to death. But it's been 15 years since I read either, so.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


The only Wright book I read part of is “Count to a Trillion” and it was so bad I gave up. Also... his author photo looks exactly like the kind of guy you would expect him to be from reading his books.

Speaking of crazy authors, this podcast episode featuring comedy legend Andy Daly as L Ron Hubbard and reading some of Hubbard’s actual unpublished writing is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.

https://thedeadauthorspodcast.libsyn.com/chapter-45-part-1-l-ron-hubbard-featuring-andrew-daly

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

Finished Book Burners by Max Gladstone, Mur Lafferty, Margaret Dunlap, and Brian Francis Slattery. Pretty good, it was recommend in thread as a monster of the week style of narrative and it definitely lived up to that. Coming from way too much milporn, I appreciated the economy of the action scenes and the variety of resolutions to the adventures. The episodic nature is fun and if I didn't read the cover I never would've guessed there was multiple authors writing the individual episodes. I think the cast is a little bland, but I suppose that's the downside of needing pretty blank archetypes to share across the authors. 4/5.

Also finished The Paper Magician by Charlie Holmberg, another in-thread rec. I was disappointed. The plot was on rails, the MC sorta embarrassing, and the entire middle part of the book was essentially a dream sequence about a recently introduced character. There also wasn't a lot of cool paper magic--which I thought was sort of the point. Add in a what seemed to me as a little male gazey, breasted boobily style writing and you get a kind of a meh package. 2/5, wouldn't recommend.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

quantumfoam posted:

Neal Asher: He's the UK's version of Jack Chalker.

Nah. Nobody's loving the weird aliens.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



tokenbrownguy posted:


Also finished The Paper Magician by Charlie Holmberg, another in-thread rec. I was disappointed. The plot was on rails, the MC sorta embarrassing, and the entire middle part of the book was essentially a dream sequence about a recently introduced character. There also wasn't a lot of cool paper magic--which I thought was sort of the point. Add in a what seemed to me as a little male gazey, breasted boobily style writing and you get a kind of a meh package. 2/5, wouldn't recommend.

I was so upset by this book when I read it a few years ago because it had been so hyped in various places online, lol. The core romance being one between a young 20-something and her decade+ older mentor/teacher was bad enough, but he's not even a character in the bulk of the story and she literally just falls in love with him through memories. I'm also usually put off by women being pitted against each other as romantic rivals and felt the MC had more emotional response to the evil-hot ex-wife than the bland man she's going to end up with. Like, by the end of the book I was just reading her as a closeted woman who was so close to having some kind of revelation just so I could finish it.

quote:

Ceony turned around to face Lira, whose dark hair fell in perfect, lush waves

If Lira was surprised to see Ceony, she didn't show it. Her pale skin flushed almost prettily with anger, or perhaps hate.

Lira smiled sweetly, and for a moment Ceony could see why Emery had been drawn to her, so many years ago.

Ladies is it gay to find your """love interest's""" ex wife hot even as she's trying to kill you.

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


Runcible Cat posted:

Nah. Nobody's loving the weird aliens.

Seems unrealistic to me.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

Mercury Hat posted:

I was so upset by this book when I read it a few years ago because it had been so hyped in various places online, lol. The core romance being one between a young 20-something and her decade+ older mentor/teacher was bad enough, but he's not even a character in the bulk of the story and she literally just falls in love with him through memories. I'm also usually put off by women being pitted against each other as romantic rivals and felt the MC had more emotional response to the evil-hot ex-wife than the bland man she's going to end up with. Like, by the end of the book I was just reading her as a closeted woman who was so close to having some kind of revelation just so I could finish it.

Ladies is it gay to find your """love interest's""" ex wife hot even as she's trying to kill you.


Yeah, I think you articulate what I was picking up on the creep-o-meter a little better.

Here's a list of qualities of the main character:
- Brave
- Loyal
- Clever

Here's the strongest impressions I got from the older love interest
- steampunk coat
- messy
- can't cook
- hot goth ex-wife

Another Dirty Dish
Oct 8, 2009

:argh:
Finished GRRM’s Dying of the Light, it’s pretty much how I remembered it - a short, lonely story set on a cold lonely planet. A rogue planet, Worlorn, briefly passed close enough to a star system (a red giant surrounded by six yellow stars, called the Wheel of Fire) to be thawed out, terraformed, and host a festival, before it continues on it’s way back out into the dark between galaxies. There’s a bunch of unique cities constructed for the festival, each representing a single planet/culture, and there’s a bunch of cool lore in the appendix about the cities and cultures. So naturally, the story takes place after the festival is long over and the planet virtually abandoned. Story-wise, a guy travels to the planet to see his ex, hoping for a joyous reunion, only to find her sort-of married to this guy from a complex martial culture. Instead of asking “oh why did you ask me to come here then”, he just rolls with it and fourth-wheels around for a couple chapters.

Recommended if you’re into people brooding on dying planets, long walks through dusty abandoned cities, and meditations on the significance of names, both given and chosen.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tokenbrownguy posted:

Yeah, I think you articulate what I was picking up on the creep-o-meter a little better.

Here's a list of qualities of the main character:
- Brave
- Loyal
- Clever

Here's the strongest impressions I got from the older love interest
- steampunk coat
- messy
- can't cook
- hot goth ex-wife

so he's Dr Orpheus who can't cook. sounds pretty cool tbh

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

Another Dirty Dish posted:

Finished GRRM’s Dying of the Light, it’s pretty much how I remembered it - a short, lonely story set on a cold lonely planet. A rogue planet, Worlorn, briefly passed close enough to a star system (a red giant surrounded by six yellow stars, called the Wheel of Fire) to be thawed out, terraformed, and host a festival, before it continues on it’s way back out into the dark between galaxies. There’s a bunch of unique cities constructed for the festival, each representing a single planet/culture, and there’s a bunch of cool lore in the appendix about the cities and cultures. So naturally, the story takes place after the festival is long over and the planet virtually abandoned. Story-wise, a guy travels to the planet to see his ex, hoping for a joyous reunion, only to find her sort-of married to this guy from a complex martial culture. Instead of asking “oh why did you ask me to come here then”, he just rolls with it and fourth-wheels around for a couple chapters.

Recommended if you’re into people brooding on dying planets, long walks through dusty abandoned cities, and meditations on the significance of names, both given and chosen.

this sounds really loving good but... grrm

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
It looks like Diane Duane's personal ebook store replaced all the kind-of-sorry ePub files they previously had with some new ones that are much better quality, so I bought them all again. No regrets!

It looks like she put all her ebooks on sale for the duration of the pandemic, a promise which she's held firm on even as the pandemic stretches out to "forever". I respect that.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Evil Fluffy posted:

Traitor Son series was pretty good.

I really enjoyed it although it does drag a little in the third book. I like masters and mages, his other series more but TS fits the request better

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

tokenbrownguy posted:

Finished Book Burners by Max Gladstone, Mur Lafferty, Margaret Dunlap, and Brian Francis Slattery. Pretty good, it was recommend in thread as a monster of the week style of narrative and it definitely lived up to that. Coming from way too much milporn, I appreciated the economy of the action scenes and the variety of resolutions to the adventures. The episodic nature is fun and if I didn't read the cover I never would've guessed there was multiple authors writing the individual episodes. I think the cast is a little bland, but I suppose that's the downside of needing pretty blank archetypes to share across the authors.
Glad you liked it. Max Gladstone, apart from his own rather good craft sequence has another shared universe series called the witch who came in from the cold - I think it's roughly the same group as book burners.

I enjoyed it more, growing up reading le Carre et al, it's cold war with magic users too.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

moonmazed posted:

this sounds really loving good but... grrm

In the grrm dark future of the 41st Millennium, there is still no publication date for The Winds of Winter.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Rand Brittain posted:

It looks like Diane Duane's personal ebook store replaced all the kind-of-sorry ePub files they previously had with some new ones that are much better quality, so I bought them all again. No regrets!

It looks like she put all her ebooks on sale for the duration of the pandemic, a promise which she's held firm on even as the pandemic stretches out to "forever". I respect that.

What was wrong with the old ones?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Rand Brittain posted:

It looks like Diane Duane's personal ebook store replaced all the kind-of-sorry ePub files they previously had with some new ones that are much better quality, so I bought them all again. No regrets!

It looks like she put all her ebooks on sale for the duration of the pandemic, a promise which she's held firm on even as the pandemic stretches out to "forever". I respect that.

She honestly seems like a fine person, I keep meaning to reread sywtbaw.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Should You Want To Buy A World, the sequel to How Much For Just The Planet

i know i know

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

moonmazed posted:

this sounds really loving good but... grrm
He used to write good stuff before ASoIaF.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




anilEhilated posted:

He used to write good stuff before ASoIaF.

Tuf Voyaging is quite a trip.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
I believe he was good but can't get over his stupid sounding titles. Tuf Voyaging? Sandkings? Cmon grum

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

silvergoose posted:

Tuf Voyaging is quite a trip.

Fevre Dream is an excellent piece of work.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Jedit posted:

Fevre Dream is an excellent piece of work.

I liked The Armageddon Rag, even if it's dripping with boomer Gosh Weren't The 60s The Awesomest Time Ever nostalgia.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

anilEhilated posted:

He used to write good stuff before ASoIaF.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

:negative:

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Hah. But yeah back when I was new to ASoIaF I read all of grrms back catalogue and enjoyed it, except for wild cards. I read one wild cards book, it was okay but I didn’t feel like getting further into it.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Tuf Voyaging is a good title, you cowards

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




PupsOfWar posted:

Tuf Voyaging is a good title, you cowards

Agreed.

Also honestly I quite enjoyed it, weird pastiche of an egotistical scientist fixing world problems in sometimes less than ethical ways.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
Can't read that title without thinking of Tuck Everlasting.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

anilEhilated posted:

He used to write good stuff before ASoIaF.

I remember really liking his Anthology books, Dreamsongs Vol. 1 and 2

SEX HAVER 40000
Aug 6, 2009

no doves fly here lol
so im listening to the audiobook of annihilation, and i cant tell if it's the narrator or the text itself that i find sort of blasé. does the trilogy improve? should i dump the audiobook and switch to paper? tia

Sailor Viy
Aug 4, 2013

And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world into some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise.

SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

so im listening to the audiobook of annihilation, and i cant tell if it's the narrator or the text itself that i find sort of blasé. does the trilogy improve? should i dump the audiobook and switch to paper? tia

I mean I loved it as an audiobook so maybe it's just not for you. The narrator's voice being detached is definitely intentional.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

branedotorg posted:

Glad you liked it. Max Gladstone, apart from his own rather good craft sequence has another shared universe series called the witch who came in from the cold - I think it's roughly the same group as book burners.

I enjoyed it more, growing up reading le Carre et al, it's cold war with magic users too.

I'll put it on my list. Thanks.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

anilEhilated posted:

He used to write good stuff before ASoIaF.

Especially really kickass, concise and to the point short stories.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Finished up Duke's Brand (sequel to Tavern), and I gotta admit, I'm liking this guy's writing but there's some errors in the book that just show he needs a better editor, if he has one at all.

All in all I think this is the first fantasy book, if not just book? that has an autistic? lead. He's not written as disabled or as a super power like they tend to do in movies, but just as a semi regular dude. Interesting to see "behind the scenes" of how the thought process works.

I would read Tavern before though. Otherwise you are going to be a lil lost in the story.

I'd still recommend it, errors and all.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






StrixNebulosa posted:

I’m repulsed and excited to read this at the same time. It sounds completely up its own rear end in a top hat.

Parker knows his protagonist is nutso though

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Jedit posted:

Fevre Dream is an excellent piece of work.

It wasn't my favorite book ever and I don't go around recommending it, but I did find it an interesting approach to the genre, especially for when it was written. Only GRRM I've read and was enough to satisfy my curiosity for his writing style.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

so im listening to the audiobook of annihilation, and i cant tell if it's the narrator or the text itself that i find sort of blasé. does the trilogy improve? should i dump the audiobook and switch to paper? tia

It's definitely distant and weirdly formal on purpose. I dunno if that's what you're reacting to or something else.

I love the trilogy and probably like each book better than the previous one.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
https://twitter.com/aptshadow/status/1493280830881472520?s=20

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tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

spellmonger is... pretty horny

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