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the gilgamesh in 9 is also not the same gilgamesh
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Feb 19, 2022 00:54
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No one considers just cutting down the poison grass with their numerous swords they have?
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Feb 19, 2022 00:57
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jokes posted:FF14’s ivalice is close but it’s not the same ivalice. More of a “based on a true story” than the actual ivalice story Yeah, this is accurate. Like there are a lot of similarities but the events mentioned in FFXIV’s Ivalice don’t match up with FFT’s plot in anything other than the names involved.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:03
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I'm glad the XIV team knows that Ba'Gamnan and his crew are cool and brought them into it. Also let him transform into the dragon that's named after Matsuno for some reason. Too bad they didn't let him keep his chainsaw staff.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:09
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The best signifier that XIV's Ivalice isn't the Ivalice games Ivalice is that the timeline is backwards. FFXII takes place before Tactics, with Vagrant Story after that. But XIV's Ivalice has the War of the Lions be several thousand years ago, with Rabanastre and the characters of XII in the present day and implication that Vagrant Story's setting is somewhere off-screen.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:10
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The best signifier that they're not the same is that the stories and characters are totally different even if they share some names.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:12
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The garula look like the mamoswine looking thing Jack releases from the evil short people in Samurai Jack. Not my boy Syldra, man hate to see a sea serpent die Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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Feb 19, 2022 01:24
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FF14 is the real Ivalice, and FFT and FF12 are fan fiction. They're even framed as books.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:27
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I think, without them having gone into detail about the entire journey, but having representatives of Ramza's crew showing up at the end of the story, that you can assume the broad strokes of Tactics occurred in a similar fashion in XIV to its original game, but particulars have shifted to allow for the different metaphysics of the setting, the motivational dynamics being altered, and simply different histories and geography - XIV Mustadio is from the predecessor to Garlemald, magic is an intrinsic part of daily life and technological advances, and moogles, viera, seeq, and bangaa would all have still been chilling (nu mou are not yet in evidence on the Source and moogles are not lopporits with wings and poms) at the time. Like, you can assume Ramza worked with Gaffgarion for a while, there was a Alphonse Delacroix who used one of the auracite (possibly becoming Cúchulainn, as in the Dalriada version), defeat Dycedarg's elder brother, etc.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:28
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Gaius Marius posted:No one considers just cutting down the poison grass with their numerous swords they have? Gaius Marius posted:The garula look like the mamoswine looking thing Jack releases from the evil short people in Samurai Jack.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:30
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Elric, Erekose, Daker, Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, Cid, and Cid, the Eternal Champions
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Feb 19, 2022 01:34
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The best signifier that they're not the same is that the stories and characters are totally different even if they share some names. Seeing the official FFXIV lore subforum twist themselves into knots to declare Venat to be history's greatest monster mostly by ignoring the actual story, I've learned that there are people who are illiterate to things like 'character motivations', 'personality' and 'tone' and can only understand concrete, stated facts. So with this one I go for the most concrete and stated fact.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:35
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The best signifier that they're not the same is that the stories and characters are totally different even if they share some names. The best signifier is the disrespect to the best moogle 
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Feb 19, 2022 01:39
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I can't believe the official FFXIV lore subforum would do such a thing.
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Feb 19, 2022 01:41
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:the gilgamesh in 9 is also not the same gilgamesh You are all mistaken and I, Jokes Garland, will knock you all down!
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Feb 19, 2022 02:05
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Little pro tip people probably don't know. If you hit R when targeting a magic spell in VI it'll target the whole enemy party.
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Feb 19, 2022 02:34
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i knew.
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Feb 19, 2022 02:41
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Gaius Marius posted:The garula look like the mamoswine looking thing Jack releases from the evil short people in Samurai Jack. Ok I'm all aboard the V ride you're taking us on.
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Feb 19, 2022 03:38
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Gaius Marius posted:Which brings us to Kefka. Absolute Garbage tier villain. I do not agree with a lot of your FF6 opinions, but I have your back on this one. Kefka is the worst final villain in the series (well okay, I didn't play 13, so I suppose there could be a worse one there).
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Feb 19, 2022 03:59
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kefka owns actually
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Feb 19, 2022 04:19
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ff14 graphical update
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Feb 19, 2022 04:23
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I’m think I’m going to play FF1 PR. Any job classes I should avoid picking? I’ve never really played I or II. Beat the fan translated NES version of III and I’m down for an even more simple and stripped-down dungeon crawl adventure. Someone made a pretty detailed and knowledgeable post that compared the different bugged stats, hosed up skill growth curves, broken builds, etc of the various versions of I through VI a while back and I think they said that I PR was pretty well balanced, had lot of the janky things from the original fixed, and had the best sound. I can’t find it now, but this is the version to play, right? I could scrounge a copy the the GBA version too.
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Feb 19, 2022 04:32
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All classes are good in all FFI versions beyond the first since a lot of the shortfalls came from bugs, so generally speaking, if your team doesn't look like the dumbest combo it could be then it'll be fine. Even if it is the dumbest combo, you could still do fine. And yeah, pixel remaster is a real good one, don't feel the need to hunt down the GBA version.
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Feb 19, 2022 04:35
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I found Red Mage kinda underwhelming in FF1 PR, but not in a way that necessarily held the party back or anything. Meanwhile White Mage was dead weight for most of the game and then incredibly useful for the final boss so when I play it again I will probably bring a White Mage along again.
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Feb 19, 2022 04:42
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Harrow posted:I found Red Mage kinda underwhelming in FF1 PR, but not in a way that necessarily held the party back or anything. +1 on both points. I ran fighter/thief/rdm/whm in my last play through. WHM was deadweight except for a couple of boss fights. I think the next party I’d want to try is fighter/thief/monk/rdm. Rdm is at least somewhat useful for clearing trash and is a buff bot in boss fights
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Feb 19, 2022 04:48
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Not a standout but red mage was never holding anyone back, an excellent jack-of-all-trades
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Feb 19, 2022 04:48
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Red mage has a cool hat so do four of those
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Feb 19, 2022 04:48
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:kefka owns actually 
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Feb 19, 2022 04:53
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Kefka is nowhere near my favorite JRPG or even FF villain but the final confrontation with him was totally perfect. This is how he's introduced, with this fitting clown music. He's just some goofball https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cGvzrNoEtY But then this song returns when we confront him at the end. He isn't just some goofball now. And yet the song is still fitting because this is all so funny to Kekfa. He's a mad god who takes amusement in the casual, unstoppable destruction and misery he rains down on the world. There's an interesting topic about the exact relation between music and emotion, if a song can be said to convey anything universally. Well, Kefka's theme is an intriguing example of how the same song in two different contexts can make you feel such wildly different things. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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Feb 19, 2022 06:27
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Kefkas song sounds like the resident evil basement song that was made by a deaf guy https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4 Dancing mad redux version
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Feb 19, 2022 06:29
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FFVI is Uematsu's favourite soundtrack, so if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
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Feb 19, 2022 06:32
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Gaius Marius posted:Kefkas song sounds like the resident evil basement song that was made by a deaf guy Tbh I did enjoy your writeups on your FF6 playthrough, I just don’t agree with most of them. It would be great if you could put a little more care in getting the names right for the next set of commentaries though!
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Feb 19, 2022 06:50
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:FFVI is Uematsu's favourite soundtrack, so if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. I don't respect Uematsu he's a bad composer who makes bad use of his medium. VI is filled with songs too deeply layered for the soundchip on the SNES making all the songs sound like muddled garbage, and instead of taking inspiration from appropriate sources he takes inspiration from orchestral music, a medium inherently based on numerous layered instruments and long performances something antithetical to the RPG battle system. It's no surprise that when he fucks around in different Genre's i.e. Hula de Chocobo, the Jecht Fight song, that the music sounds much better. Uematsu should be thanking the heavens the Japanese Nationalist who does dragon quest is his main competitor cause otherwise he'd be in the lowest tier.
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Feb 19, 2022 06:54
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Gaius Marius posted:I don't respect Uematsu he's a bad composer who makes bad use of his medium. VI is filled with songs too deeply layered for the soundchip on the SNES making all the songs sound like muddled garbage, and instead of taking inspiration from appropriate sources he takes inspiration from orchestral music, a medium inherently based on numerous layered instruments and long performances something antithetical to the RPG battle system. It's no surprise that when he fucks around in different Genre's i.e. Hula de Chocobo, the Jecht Fight song, that the music sounds much better. 
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Feb 19, 2022 06:59
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Gaius Marius posted:I don't respect Uematsu he's a bad composer who makes bad use of his medium. VI is filled with songs too deeply layered for the soundchip on the SNES making all the songs sound like muddled garbage, and instead of taking inspiration from appropriate sources he takes inspiration from orchestral music, a medium inherently based on numerous layered instruments and long performances something antithetical to the RPG battle system. It's no surprise that when he fucks around in different Genre's i.e. Hula de Chocobo, the Jecht Fight song, that the music sounds much better. mama mia thats-a spicy take
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Feb 19, 2022 06:59
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Gaius Marius posted:I don't respect Uematsu he's a bad composer who makes bad use of his medium. Just an endless font of bad opinions. It's amazing.
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Feb 19, 2022 07:00
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either gaius is trolling or just has terrible opinions or more than likely both and I don't understand why you all keep taking the bait like you're going to be the one to convince them that their takes are stupid
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Feb 19, 2022 07:01
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This is a forum. It is for discussion
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i call him ewwumatsu
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