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Concerned Citizen posted:this airport thing is still bugging me. i know russia's military culture is very different from ours, but i think if we sent a few hundred special forces to their death at an airport behind enemy lines, it would result in several ruined careers and maybe a few movies about one of the biggest military blunders in decades. The difference is the US would've obliterated the attack on the airport after the Rangers or some other light infantry unit took it with combined arms. I'm not a military nerd, so if the Russians got their SF/SEAL equivalents killed trying to fight a conventional fight they're stupid as hell. Our special forces wouldn't have been there in the first place.
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Concerned Citizen posted:this airport thing is still bugging me. i know russia's military culture is very different from ours, but i think if we sent a few hundred special forces to their death at an airport behind enemy lines, it would result in several ruined careers and maybe a few movies about one of the biggest military blunders in decades. yes, if the VDV did get routed from the airport that would indeed be deeply embarassing and a tremendous waste of soldiers lives it feels to me like an overreach. like the ukraine resistance was much stronger than expected and the whole plan went to hell
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A big flaming stink posted:https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496959123707109394 It's worth noting that this is a no poo poo "Defend the homeland" against an enemy invader that has superior numbers and funding. It's better to make this call sooner, rather than later, when it's more likely to help - and before Russia decides to announce something like "Due to ongoing insurgent attacks, all military aged males will be put into work camps until the situation in Ukraine is resolved."
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quote:Grouchio wrote on Feb 24, 2022 22:31: Grouchio wanted me to share this with the thread. Apparently not much of the ISS would even survive deorbiting, so "only" the astronauts would die, if it comes to that. And now, I don't know why they didn't want to post this by themselves. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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chupacabraTERROR posted:This is... troubling. Brest, Belarus is literally on the Polish border. I imagine a lot of NATO troops and equipment are about to flow into the Baltics, Poland, and Romania so I wouldn’t be surprised that Russia would want to do the same on the other side of the border. Actually, forcing Russia to counter NATO border troops is probably one way to help Ukraine by taking those troops away from other duties.
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Libluini posted:And now, I don't know why they didn't want to post this by themselves. They're probed and just tricked you into evading probation.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:yes, if the VDV did get routed from the airport that would indeed be deeply embarassing and a tremendous waste of soldiers lives poo poo like this happens when a strong man chases out any and all dissenters over several decades.
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Libluini posted:Grouchio wanted me to share this with the thread. Apparently not much of the ISS would even survive deorbiting, so "only" the astronauts would die, if it comes to that. The plan is already to de-orbit the ISS when it retires. Of course, it would be done in a controlled fashion, over ocean. It's just bluster.
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Concerned Citizen posted:this airport thing is still bugging me. i know russia's military culture is very different from ours, but i think if we sent a few hundred special forces to their death at an airport behind enemy lines, it would result in several ruined careers and maybe a few movies about one of the biggest military blunders in decades. We don't invade countries with modern, functional militaries in a conventional ground war. That's not a thing that's supposed to happen any more.
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Ola posted:From a bunch of pages back and worthless but several people reacted to it so it doesn't hurt to mention. Yes, I agree. While I like the feelgood vibes about the story, the videos don't show any of that.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I don’t think they are threatening the iss like a supervillain. They are pointing out that other than like a demo launch for space x that docked with the iss like 99% of all the functional launches to the iss in the last ten years have all been Russian Zephro fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Willo567 posted:How worried should we be about the war spiraling out of control? well they just threatened to throw a space station at us so you tell me
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KillHour posted:We don't invade countries with modern, functional militaries in a conventional ground war. That's not a thing that's supposed to happen any more. at least, not without a shitload of bombing first, or ensuring that the enemy won't be able to summon a significantly larger defending force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northern_Delay
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Deviant posted:well they just threatened to throw a space station at us so you tell me That's probably just some nazi thug in a symbolic government post blustering to please his patron
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From my host sister (I think she translated it):quote:23:37 Near Chernihiv, Ukrainian military and Russian occupiers are being clashed. Smart not to give away positions obviously. Can't find anything on Twitter in Ukrainian about it.
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Charliegrs posted:So all those reports from yesterday about Russians landing in Odessa, did any of that turn out to be true? Not that I can tell, at least.
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Concerned Citizen posted:this airport thing is still bugging me. i know russia's military culture is very different from ours, but i think if we sent a few hundred special forces to their death at an airport behind enemy lines, it would result in several ruined careers and maybe a few movies about one of the biggest military blunders in decades. I don't think there's any independent confirmation they have lost the airport. Given how close it is to Kyiv the Ukrainian government will want to avoid saying it's lost as long as possible if they haven't managed to regain it.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:at least, not without a shitload of bombing first, or ensuring that the enemy won't be able to summon a significantly larger defending force Can confirm the bombing. Was a private on that jump. It's incredibly disorienting to hit the ground at night and have no loving clue what's going on. If the Iraqi Army had been present we would have been slaughtered.
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Deviant posted:well they just threatened to throw a space station at us so you tell me
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Deviant posted:well they just threatened to throw a space station at us so you tell me The best case scenario would for the ISS to Kesslerfuck low earth orbit and render ICBMs and SLBM moot.
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dominoeffect posted:Just curious, do you have any sources on it being the 31st VDV? https://twitter.com/kofmanmichael/status/1496850009261813761 This is a very reputable analyst specialising in Russian military.
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Zephro posted:This is wrong. SpaceX are going to launch their 25th cargo resupply mission to the ISS in May, they've been flying them for a decade. They've also flown three sets of crew with the fourth due in April. Yup, this. And while the SpaceX Dragon isn't set up to reboost the station, the Cygnus (the other US cargo spacecraft, which has also been flying for a decade) can do so if necessary. Granted, those normally go up on a booster with a Ukrainian-made first stage, but that's a longer-range problem since there are existing inventories of them already in the US.
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I doubt Roscosmos has direct control over the ISS's altitude or the Russians on board want to die in fire. I could be wrong though.
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Dwesa posted:but Rogozin is an idiot that spouts drivel about US needing a trampoline to get to ISS after decomissioning shuttles, I would say anything he says is just propaganda or nonsense but i found this analyst image of the potential impact! 
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Deviant posted:well they just threatened to throw a space station at us so you tell me The International Space Station project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. But in the year of the Ukrainean war, it became something greater, our last best hope for victory. The year is 2022, the place ISS-1.
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chupacabraTERROR posted:This is... troubling. Brest, Belarus is literally on the Polish border. Might be going for Lviv, in case you’re worried they’re about to invade Poland.
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Despera posted:I doubt Roscosmos has direct control over the ISS's altitude or the Russians on board want to die in fire. I could be wrong though. [very "The Lonely Island" voice] I THREW ME ON THE GROUUUUUND
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Bone Crimes posted:What is Belarus' liability here? Will they be sanctioned for hosting operational military strikes? Belarus is fully a puppet state of Russia. (and as such protected by Russia)
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I mean it's a dumb talking point created by an idiot but saying "we'll drop the ISS on your heads" is basically saying "we'll drop 400 tons of thin metal tubes randomly across Europe", ie not exactly a chilling threat even by the standards of idiots with dumb talking points
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Bone Crimes posted:What is Belarus' liability here? Will they be sanctioned for hosting operational military strikes? Not much to sanction
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Despera posted:I doubt Roscosmos has direct control over the ISS's altitude or the Russians on board want to die in fire. I could be wrong though. There's also a couple of docked spacecraft there specifically for use as lifeboats in the event of emergency abandonment. No one is going to go down with it.
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Man, hard RIP to these guys https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1496956099517427716 https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496966461386072067
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Paracausal posted:now we're getting into the cool zone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM
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i am a moron posted:The difference is the US would've obliterated the attack on the airport after the Rangers or some other light infantry unit took it with combined arms. I'm not a military nerd, so if the Russians got their SF/SEAL equivalents killed trying to fight a conventional fight they're stupid as hell. Our special forces wouldn't have been there in the first place. SEAL equivalent would be Vympel etcetera. 31sf VDV are “just” an elite “normal” infantry brigade, and Russian VDV deployments tend to be quite yolo, simply put. There’s a reason these guys beat up civilians and drunkenly swim in city fountains each August.
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Deteriorata posted:There's also a couple of docked spacecraft there specifically for use as lifeboats in the event of emergency abandonment. No one is going to go down with it. Forgot about those yeah And apparenlty the Russian side of the ISS controls the altittude. oops
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