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Shooting Blanks posted:Haven't seen this posted here yet, but it looks like NATO is gearing up. Uhhhhhhhh
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TulliusCicero posted:NATO sure seems to be doing a lot of troop movements right now onto the border. The only thing anyone here knows for sure is that NATO is working with far more information than anyone on SA has - and more importantly, even if anyone here does have confirmed information, it would be a massive mistake to post it publicly. If NATO is saying they believe Russia has further ambitions than Ukraine, odds are they know what they're talking about.
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KitConstantine posted:Statement on CNN from former Ukranian President Poroshenko in Kyiv. You can tell he's emotional Anyone still clinging to 'Zelensky has to worry about getting couped' should probably reflect a bit on this story.
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Young Freud posted:A lot of people are saying their disposable like a AT4. They were asking about the NLAW, not a javi. But good info!
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Young Freud posted:A lot of people are saying their disposable like a AT4. I think they were asking specifically about the NLAW, which is a newer man-portable anti-tank missile built by the UK and Sweden. It came out around 2009, I think? The Javelin is a bit older. Similar concepts and capabilities, though.
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MRLS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? firing cluster rounds apparently? TheRat posted:This is just fantasy. A bottle of gasoline isn't going to heat up a massive slab of steel significantly, and you have no basis to say that active warzone tanks have no air filters because some russian sold them all. eh people were using them to significant effect in syria, particularly along with oil soaked rugs not something anyone wants to be using probably and if you are close enough to enemy armor that you can use it, you've got a bunch of bigger issues. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Just want to quote this to confirm that based on personal experience most Russians are extremely cool and fun people and it sucks that they are ruled by war mongering gangsters. What if I told you that polls seem to indicate that Putin has ~70% approval from Russians in the country?
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cr0y posted:Uhhhhhhhh To reassure EE NATO members, that's it. Not going into Ukraine.
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TulliusCicero posted:NATO sure seems to be doing a lot of troop movements right now onto the border. Putin has shown himself to have become increasingly irrational and likely high as hell on huffing his own farts, so it's probably due dilligence to make sure you're ready if he decides to have his troops veer westwards into poland on megalomanical urge or in a fit of narcissistic rage.
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quarantinethepast posted:What if I told you that polls seem to indicate that Putin has ~70% approval from Russians in the country? Most Russians don't vote. They've been largely apolitical for decades now.
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Majorian posted:To reassure EE NATO members, that's it. Not going into Ukraine. "Not limited to Ukraine" was my 😳
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The US MLRS rocket launchers primarily fire rockets that contain several hundred small submunitions, I presume the same is true of the Russian systems. MLRS systems used by Russia vary, from the Grads which are pretty small truck mounted systems not really comparable to US systems and just throwing up pretty conventional munitions and cluster munitions, to much larger systems that are more comprable systems to what the U.S. uses. We'd really have to narrow it down what the sources of the fires was to get any clearer idea of what the munitions involved were.
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For any one willing to chip in gas money, you can paypal me @kylofon . Don’t need much but it’d help. Thanks! Just learned the two girls Im waiting for are 12 and 15 and also there’s a cat. Still waiting though, apparently their mom will hand them off and shes going back to the dad waiting on the other side. Mokotow fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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quarantinethepast posted:What if I told you that polls seem to indicate that Putin has ~70% approval from Russians in the country? Do you trust polls from a country that largely harasses if not kills its critics? I don't mean drone strikes like the US: Straight murdering people who speak up against Putin.
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Young Ukrainian MP on Sky News walking around while being interviewed. Says he is staying in Kyiv even though his family is in the west because it is the "honorable thing to do." Ukrainians are incredible under pressure.
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Majorian posted:To reassure EE NATO members, that's it. Not going into Ukraine.
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MLRS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? Ineffective against mostly unarmored targets spread thin? Yes, like civilian cars. Best would be to use high explosive rounds. But they won't work against true armored targets, unlike cluster submunitions, which on the other hand aren't good at just making big booms.
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cr0y posted:"Not limited to Ukraine" was my 😳 Didn't Biden say US intelligence believes the Russians are not limiting this attack to Ukraine? And tbf the US has got this one right so far?
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Grouchio posted:And to prevent Putin from getting any (not) smart ideas about going beyond the borders? Yeah, tripwire force and all that.
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I want someone to ask Putin what the hell is going on with his freaky inflated head. I swear he didn't look like that just a year ago. I'm a putin head truther, it must be connected somehow Also, apologies if this was posted I did skip a few pages to get to the new stuff https://twitter.com/JamesAALongman/status/1497112266138869779
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quarantinethepast posted:What if I told you that polls seem to indicate that Putin has ~70% approval from Russians in the country? you have to pay money to see the source on this my bet is on it being like, "99% of people voted for Saddam"
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Majorian posted:Most Russians don't vote. They've been largely apolitical for decades now. The last presidential election in 2018 had 67.5% turnout. People don't vote in the US either, but Trump never got anywhere above like 40%. What are the sources for your claim?
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Dog Friday posted:Didn't Biden say US intelligence believes the Russians are not limiting this attack to Ukraine? And tbf the US has got this one right so far? If they do attack a NATO member, how soon should we expect nukes to fly?
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My main concern for all of this is has anyone considered that Putin may have just lost his loving mind?
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah this is gonna get bad. There's no way there isn't some international uproar over this. Its one thing to block Ukraine's airspace and the immediate coast, you are now launching missiles at international shipping. Its like shooting down a civilian aircraft outside the conflict. I’ve boarded the Namura Queen before for work.
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The living standards of Russia have gone up dramatically under Putin, why wouldnt he be popular
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Is it clancychat time again?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:If they do attack a NATO member, how soon should we expect nukes to fly? Nukes are not going to fly. NATO will not get involved in Ukraine, and Russia will not push further.
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UN Security Council meeting in about one minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfzvRN3FYDA e: initially surprised by so many people making so many called definitive shots itt, 'this will happen', 'this will never happen' but then I remembered I'm posting on the internet
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Peanut Butler posted:you have to pay money to see the source on this Literally if you look under "More information": quote:The source specified the following information: "Until March 2020, the survey was conducted via personal interviews in the respondents’ homes (face-to-face). In April – June 2020, the survey was conducted via phone interviews (CATI)." Reminder that Xi also has majority support among the Chinese people.
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CommieGIR posted:Do you trust polls from a country that largely harasses if not kills its critics? I don't mean drone strikes like the US: Straight murdering people who speak up against Putin. Is a drone strike no straight up murdering someone?
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I could definitely see the "Not limited to Ukraine" thing as a PR move to push NATO & allies to circle the wagons, drum up support for sanctions, and just generally move more reluctant allies off the fence. The broader global audience needs SOME sign that NATO et al. aren't just sitting on their asses and making strongly-worded statements, even if it's clear that they're not throwing down for Ukraine.
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The NATO military is designed to deter Russia and there have been critics (including people on this forum today) saying there's no way the US/France/Germany/UK etc would defend their allies if push came to shove. This is literally what it was designed for, has been maintained for and why troops are moving today. We're showing our allies that it doesn't matter if you're Estonia or the USA, an attack on one is an attack on all. It would be much more worrying seeing troops leave the Baltic and Poland etc right about now
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Peanut Butler posted:UN Security Council meeting in about one minute: Is Russia at the table for this meeting?
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quarantinethepast posted:What if I told you that polls seem to indicate that Putin has ~70% approval from Russians in the country? Polls from a dictatorship are worse then useless Edit: The source of this particular poll seems to sit in Moscow. Tells you everything about the reliability.
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Mia Wasikowska posted:The living standards of Russia have gone up dramatically under Putin, why wouldnt he be popular It's hard to say. I think the big spike in prosperity happened in the earlier part of his tenure and the country's gotten stagnant in the past decade. Russia's GDP has been on a steady decline since 2013. From what I understand of Russia's political scene, there also isn't a shining, obvious alternative to Putin.
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I don't think sanctions, at the least the ones we've seen now and in the past, are going to matter whatsoever with regards to the current situation. Putin isn't dumb, he knew this would happen and decided his goals were worth it. Something like SWIFT would certainly matter but I don't think that will happen. Ukraine isn't 'worth' it.
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quarantinethepast posted:Literally if you look under "More information": oh I see, you have to register, I just noped out when it popped up a 'choose a plan' screen I don't want to make an account, what's the source? what's CATI?
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Peanut Butler posted:UN Security Council meeting in about one minute: The meeting is postponed apparently 
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Mia Wasikowska posted:The living standards of Russia have gone up dramatically under Putin, why wouldnt he be popular I don't have any hard numbers to back this up, only anecdotal evidence. My understanding is that living standards improved in the 2000s, but in the recent decade have been on the decline. Recently the pension age was raised and the price for goods continues to rise. I'm really skeptical about the turnout numbers, results, and approval ratings.
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