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Shooting Blanks posted:Is Russia at the table for this meeting? well, lol 
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Mokotow posted:For any one willing to chip in gas money, you can paypal me @kylofon . Don’t need much but it’d help. Thanks! Just sent you a bit. If you don't need it, then get the girls something they need. Take care.
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Mokotow posted:For any one willing to chip in gas money, you can paypal me @kylofon . Don’t need much but it’d help. Thanks! Thanks friend. I threw in what I assume is around half a tank of gas.
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The NATO troop movement both is and isn't a big deal. The Ukraine thing is understandably insane and it makes sense to redeploy troops to border areas incase poo poo continues to be insane and things get really close to borders. This isn't a super big deal imo. They aren't looking to cross into the Ukraine. It is a big deal because more armed people on borders in a situation where intervention is a flash point can/will lead to mistakes.
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Wibla posted:It's closed? I believe the meeting has been delayed until 4pm to water down the resolution to make it palatable for India, China, and the other gleep glops not on board.
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TheRat posted:Is a drone strike no straight up murdering someone? Obama wasn't personally saying "That man talked poo poo about me, kill him" Putin has. Multiple times.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Is Russia at the table for this meeting? Unless something changed today, Russia is currently the chair of the UN security council!
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Mokotow posted:Hey! Sorry for brief answers im in the car in a field. Yes, every male is getting turned around at the border Thank you so much! Everything helps, you don't ever need to be sorry for being only able to give limited answers. Thank you.
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If Putin were genuinely popular then Navalny wouldn't get a few months in prison every time polling day comes around. E: I mean there's a genuine base of support, but the Kremlin has its thumb down on the scales of democracy as hard as you possibly can before you just give up on elections entirely Alchenar fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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I think "Not limited to Ukraine" is rhetorical more than specific. He's saying this isn't a simple border conflict or matter between two nations or what Putin and the Carlson/Greenwald/Gabbard types are painting it as. That Putin's got bigger ambitions and this is part of them. But I don't think its Biden coyly saying "he's planning to attack Poland next week." They've been shockingly specific about their intelligence reports and even more shockingly accurate. If they knew of some kind of plan to attack another country I think they'd say it. This is the more typical sort of statement simply warning that Putin is everyone's problem and dismissing Ukraine to history isn't the right option even if you don't care about them.
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quarantinethepast posted:The last presidential election in 2018 had 67.5% turnout. People don't vote in the US either, but Trump never got anywhere above like 40%. The election where there are videos from official polling site cameras of ballot stuffing?
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Inner Light posted:Nukes are not going to fly. NATO will not get involved in Ukraine, and Russia will not push further. I think what that article, and what the level-headed are getting at, is that there seems to be a legit concern from NATO that Russia intends to extend this conflict outside of Ukraine. Which seems stupidly insane, given that I don't think Putin can even hold all of Ukraine to begin with, but then it was also stupidly insane to invade Ukraine with zero justification and eat all these sanctions which were obviously going to happen. Particularly, Finland joining NATO right now could be a tipping point. Russia has warned them not to, but if they do they would not be integrated into NATO's command structures for some time, and Russia might use that to test the alliance if Russia feels like doing something dangerous. NATO will definitely defend it's current members in eastern Europe, that's what the tripwire forces are for, but those forces aren't in Finland and will take time to get there should they join. This said, Finland should definitely join cause they will be next on the chopping block if Russia's political structure survives this war.
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Alchenar posted:If Putin were genuinely popular then Navalny wouldn't get a few months in prison every time polling day comes around. Am I misremembering or is Navalny a right wing psycho that compared muslims to cockroaches that had to be exterminated?
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Telsa Cola posted:The NATO troop movement both is and isn't a big deal.
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Peanut Butler posted:what's CATI? Computer assisted telephone interviewing
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Mokotow posted:For any one willing to chip in gas money, you can paypal me @kylofon . Don’t need much but it’d help. Thanks! Sent you some too. o7
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Inner Light posted:Nukes are not going to fly. NATO will not get involved in Ukraine, and Russia will not push further. You're probably right but a lot of people with this exact same kind of certainty said that Russia would never actually invade Ukraine. So maybe let's not speak in absolutes about a future which no one can know.
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Play posted:I want someone to ask Putin what the hell is going on with his freaky inflated head. I swear he didn't look like that just a year ago. I'm a putin head truther, it must be connected somehow So.. I can't read that exact article due to the paywall, but it looks like most of that money is because of stocks/ruble values tumbling according to https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainma...sh=7849752e3a60. Wouldn't that be more due to Russia's invasions and uncertainty surrounding that and not the sanctions themselves?
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Peanut Butler posted:well, lol In the description it says it's been postponed to 4pm EST, so check back then I guess
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The US MLRS rocket launchers primarily fire rockets that contain several hundred small submunitions, I presume the same is true of the Russian systems. Also in theory I believe banned by some weapons limitation treaties owing to their propensity for having a lot of duds mixed in, resulting in a lot of UXO lying around afterwards. Of course, people who have them do not sign up to those treaties because they like using them.
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quarantinethepast posted:Computer assisted telephone interviewing so we don't know the org that did the polling
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Inner Light posted:Nukes are not going to fly. NATO will not get involved in Ukraine, and Russia will not push further. Yeah, there is no indication Nukes will fly. NATO is just sending a signal to Putin: Ukraine better be it, especially after his Minister publicly threatened Finland and Sweded. France has already chewed out Putin verbally over the vague threats at the beginning of the week.
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I could be mistaken but I mean, while popular revolt is always a threat, with a dictatorship - especially one like Russia - isn't the popularity that really matters not 'how popular is the dictator with the masses?' but rather 'how popular is the dictator with the generals, the ministers, and the other power brokers and authority figures?' Like isn't the more realistic threat to Putin that one or more powerful oligarchs realize that his insane adventure in Ukraine is costing them a lot of money and for no real gain, and that maybe Russia - and more importantly their bank account - would be better off without Putin?
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Play posted:You're probably right but a lot of people with this exact same kind of certainty said that Russia would never actually invade Ukraine. So maybe let's not speak in absolutes about a future which no one can know. The point is that if Russian troops get to the Polish border, there will be a wall of NATO soldiers waiting for them - and maybe they'll think twice about trying to cross it. The goal is containment, not escalation.
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Someone is definitely going to shoot over the border though. I feel like that happens everytime.
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idk if nukes will fly I still put together a bugout and spent what I could on not having my gas needle near E, which feels ridiculous, and is probably unnecessary, but mindfully I feel it assuaging any wild anxiety that arises during these events and also being isolated d/t covid/not having a fixed address atm
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Kalit posted:So.. I can't read that exact article due to the paywall, but it looks like most of that money is because of stocks/ruble values tumbling according to https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainma...sh=7849752e3a60. Wouldn't that be more due to Russia's invasions and uncertainty surrounding that and not the sanctions themselves? Not necessarily. The index of the market obviously represents real companies, and some of those banks and others were sanctioned, leading them to fall more than others. There's the general sentiment surrounding war as well, but if earnings can affect a company's stock, sanctions will definitely do it as well.
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Kalit posted:So.. I can't read that exact article due to the paywall, but it looks like most of that money is because of stocks/ruble values tumbling according to https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainma...sh=7849752e3a60. Wouldn't that be more due to Russia's invasions and uncertainty surrounding that and not the sanctions themselves? Not sure, I can't read it either. But you're probably right. The subheader is the correct one. That being said it's all connected and it wouldn't be possible to accurately separate which effect is the result of which exact cause.
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MLRS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? You know how in a raid, some dipshit DPS always stands inside the red circle and dies even though they barely cover 10% of the screen? It's like that except for soldiers.
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Putin has been disappearing the oligarchs who could be a threat for decades, and probably has thoroughly infiltrated the staff and accomplices of the survivors. There will be no coup
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TheRat posted:Am I misremembering or is Navalny a right wing psycho that compared muslims to cockroaches that had to be exterminated? He was known for that early in his political career. However recently he requested the Quran while in prison. Maybe that's a cynical play, or maybe islamophobia is low on his radar compared to much more important things.
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KillHour posted:You know how in a raid, some dipshit DPS always stands inside the red circle and dies even though they barely cover 10% of the screen? It's like that except for soldiers. Ah, thanks. Now I truly grasp it.
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Peanut Butler posted:you have to pay money to see the source on this the poll was made in cooperation with the Levada Center, seat: Moscow that you can see without paying money
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TheRat posted:Am I misremembering or is Navalny a right wing psycho that compared muslims to cockroaches that had to be exterminated? Navalny is an unpleasant ethno-nationalist by Western standards yes. But there's a reason Putin and the siloviki hate and occasionally try to kill him. If he won an election he would probably be fine with more elections.
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Telsa Cola posted:Someone is definitely going to shoot over the border though. I feel like that happens everytime.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I could be mistaken but I mean, while popular revolt is always a threat, with a dictatorship - especially one like Russia - isn't the popularity that really matters not 'how popular is the dictator with the masses?' but rather 'how popular is the dictator with the generals, the ministers, and the other power brokers and authority figures?' Absolutely, lacking an absolutely massive popular revolt of which there is no sign and even less likelihood. Still, it's not weird to want to know how much support Putin actually has among all Russians. Makes it either easier or harder to hate them all, I'd imagine
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OddObserver posted:The election where there are videos from official polling site cameras of ballot stuffing? You don't need to stuff any ballots, I'm sure they're even counted fairly. Putin simply imprisons/kills anyone that polls above ~10-15% support. So yes the election ends up being a choice between Putin, some crazy Communist that never polled above 3%, and some crazy Nazi that never polled above 1%. Putin getting 70% of votes in such an election doesn't indicate that people love him. If Trump killed anyone that ever polled above 10%, he'd clean up as well. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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On the Russian FSB and polling: https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1497302149486858241quote:According to the polling data, Ukrainians in early February were, by and large, pessimistic about the future and apathetic about politics, and did not trust politicians, political parties or the majority of Ukraine’s domestic institutions. Their main concerns were overwhelmingly inflation and the cost of living, with both perceived to be rising. important not to huff one's own farts about kinetic strikes validating a political outcome fait accompli too much
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