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OctaMurk posted:This is the largest ever war between two countries that contain McDonalds, incidentally What about Burger King? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaK98w9jJE
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We moved to Nova Scotia a couple years ago, well three I guess, right at the beginning of Covid. Our best friends, our realtor as well, are Ukrainians and they are all tough as nails and are also loving, generous, and genuine friends and family to us now. I guess it's anecdotal, but from what I've seen this week from the war, it seems true overall that Ukrainians are resilient and give no fucks. When we first moved here, we met the wife's (of the couple's) parents, and they were awesome. We had many bonfires over the course of the last couple summers, and "Pops" her dad would drink cheap whiskey and taught us to say Budmo for Cheers while making sure we had shot glasses and they were consistently full. After Covid restrictions lightened, Pops and his wife went back to Ukraine this past fall, and I worry about them and hope they get out safe--same for the husband's parents. Anyway, Budmo and gently caress Putin.
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Dante posted:Reading this thread and some other stuff on the internet I do think some are taking the isolated tidbits of good military news as evidence of something more than it is. Even though Ukraine has had some success, the strategic situation is untenable. Russia has invaded an absolutely huge country in both land area and population, and are fighting in the capital by the 48 hour mark. Within the next few days Ukrainian air assets will be gone and Russia will have completely air superiority. Ukrainan forces will be exhausted from fighting, while Russia can rotate in fresh troops. While I hope there's an insurgency, Ukraine is a very flat country. The topography is pretty much the opposite of Afghanistan or Switzerland, and the climate is very different from Vietnam. It would not be an easy place for the guerilla side of an insurgency. The Nazis did have issues dealing with insurgencies, but they also successfully occupied most of europe and were beaten by conventional armies - not partisan revolts. The Ukranian people are incredibly brave, but Russia can and will grind Ukranian military forces down. Molotovs and civillians sniping from windows won't stop Russia in Kiev anymore than it did in Grozny. An iron curtain around Russia that makes Putin's war domestically incredibly unpopular to the point where it destabilizes the regime is probably Ukraines best hope. That responsibility should weigh very heavy on the shoulders of all western governments. The seeds that were sown in 1968 caused tremendous problems for USSR later on, and we can only hope this invasion spells out the same fate for Putin's regime. Yeah, unfortunately this feels like 300. They are doing an amazing job inflicting pain against a vastly larger invading force, but ultimately they probably can’t win without backup.
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Peanut Butler posted:this one? I heard maybe one bullet, and 986 ravens. Even that bullet could have been someone dropping a crate.
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OddObserver posted:They were too busy bombing a civilian industrial equipment plant for that. That's one angle that I think people may be missing --- a lot of the country's industrial capacity may be gone. Also infrastructure. The Ukrainians have been blowing their own highway bridges to stop advances, while the Russians have been targeting power stations. Those are large, expensive pieces of key infrastructure to have to replace afterwards.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Every time I hear "There will never be an insurgency because there's no jungles or mountains" like, do you think that stopped Iraq? Baghdad isn't exactly a mountainous jungle. Also Ukraine has something Iraqi insurgents could only dream of, trees and brush
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Grape posted:I heard maybe one bullet, and 986 ravens. Even that bullet could have been someone dropping a crate. it was like an hour+ ago; ended with what sounded like a plane flyover
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/stratcomcentre/status/1497408834536718339 Germany is pussyfooting a few helmets to the border whereas Poland is loving shoving convoys of ammo right down Ukraine's throat.
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Small White Dragon posted:Yeah, unfortunately this feels like 300. They are doing an amazing job inflicting pain against a vastly larger invading force, but ultimately they probably can’t win without backup. Probably. But they held through the night. Their flag still flies over their capital despite every possible thing being against them. That's not nothing.
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Sanguinia posted:Probably. But they held through the night. Their flag still flies over their capital despite every possible thing being against them. That's not nothing. Yeah and surprisingly I don't see any Russian armor in the webcams. And power is on. And internet it up. Ukraine made it to another morning.
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video games taught me that the best place to hide is tall grass and you have a country riddled with sunflowers and wheat and you tell me they can't hide?!
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AFAIK Russia hasn't taken a single city. I think they were hoping that Ukraine would fall without them having to fight door to door anywhere.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:video games taught me that the best place to hide is tall grass and you have a country riddled with sunflowers and wheat and you tell me they can't hide?! 
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One Russian MP (KPRF) tweeted against the war https://twitter.com/tweet_matveev/status/1497393053035810817?s=20&t=xLyOqFw32Rir377LSbHiPg Doesnt seem like a super good guy, senses the winds changing?
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Randarkman posted:I wonder if the fact that they've reached the capital has anything to do with the capital being you know, not very far at all from the Belorussian border, where the Russians are invading from. It doesn't say as much as I think you believe it does. Uhhhh it says a lot about the level of defensive preparedness and capability of the Ukrainian military. Find it difficult to see how an advance into a capital city isn’t a big deal regardless of where it is.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Germany is pussyfooting a few helmets to the border whereas Poland is loving shoving convoys of ammo right down Ukraine's throat. Poland is also taking some steps to mend fences with the EU over the right-wing government's more authoritarian moves. The Polish President is apparently trying to restore some judicial independence to make nice, saying, "We don't need this fight." Here's hoping Putin's crusade alienates more of the sympathetic ears he'd built up in Europe. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/23/poland-ukraine-russia-crisis-nato-strategic-role-military-diplomacy-war/
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:AFAIK Russia hasn't taken a single city. Kick the door in and the whole rotten structure will fall. Oh gently caress, my leg.
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Russians on the ground in Melitopol. https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1497427184729923584?t=evAqO8VJGVTbOUfW4vdpAQ&s=19 And bombing is heating up in more cities again this morning https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497427989922996226?t=vn4icE2LZTstgkyjSTYGWw&s=19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZebYm-nenY lmao it started playing jazz
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These tik tokkers are insane. We definitely haven't been visited by aliens, because folks would be live streaming their abduction
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my morning jackass posted:Uhhhh it says a lot about the level of defensive preparedness and capability of the Ukrainian military. Find it difficult to see how an advance into a capital city isn’t a big deal regardless of where it is. I think they genuinely weren't ready for the attack from Belarus, yes. Russia does have an advantage in terms of equipment, especially aircraft, but haven't really been able to push it decisively yet as quickly as they seem to have been hoping. I am not saying it's not a big deal, but I fail to see how it's something that would be a surprise considering where the capital is.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Also infrastructure. The Ukrainians have been blowing their own highway bridges to stop advances, while the Russians have been targeting power stations. Those are large, expensive pieces of key infrastructure to have to replace afterwards. They are, but this is an existential fight being fought by a developed nation. We have not really seen one of those since the Second World War to be frank, at least not on this scale. And blowing up bridges and key infrastructure to stop the enemy when the very existence of your nation is on the line is just doing what you have to do.
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497403127955402756?s=20&t=vs0IkmU64CfflV03lAF90A This is interesting, and while it's hard to believe anything one way or another at the moment the audio on various live cams etc from Kyiv seems to back up this version of events. I suppose we will see. ... on the topic of cams it seems one of the more well-trafficked ones (DW) just got hacked with .... smooth jazz audio? E: no more jazz. Lasted maybe 4 minutes
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Randarkman posted:I think they genuinely weren't ready for the attack from Belarus, yes. Russia does have an advantage in terms of equipment, especially aircraft, but haven't really been able to push it decisively yet as quickly as they seem to have been hoping. It's literally a hundred kilometers from Chernobyl to Kiev. Not much they can do when they're that close.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:AFAIK Russia hasn't taken a single city. Does Sumy still stand?
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Kill All Cops posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZebYm-nenY Deploying smooth jazz.
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Grape posted:For all your authoritative doom tone you seem unaware that Kiev is very close to the Belarusian border. I'm very aware, Kiev is about an 8 hour drive from my familys hometown. Capturing the capital is of massive symbolic and strategic importance, that's why Russia is pushing so hard for it and equally why Ukraine is defending it so hard. I think it's hard to make the case that the Russian forces feels the invasion is going poorly military. It's probably the scale of domestic protests that worry the Kremlin more. Randarkman posted:I wonder if the fact that they've reached the capital has anything to do with the capital being you know, not very far at all from the Belorussian border, where the Russians are invading from. It doesn't say as much as I think you believe it does. Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Every time I hear "There will never be an insurgency because there's no jungles or mountains" like, do you think that stopped Iraq? Baghdad isn't exactly a mountainous jungle. Dante fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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freeasinbeer posted:There is a crazy Molotov video in the GBS thread. It's drat cool to see the push back against the Russians but I've heard that modern transports are designed to shrug off molotovs. The occupants are inconvenienced but not even mission killed.
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E. Revenant posted:It's drat cool to see the push back against the Russians but I've heard that modern transports are designed to shrug off molotovs. I think that video was from 2016.
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Chuka Umana posted:Refugee from cspam here, going to order some mcdonalds for solidarity with the ukrainians mcdonalds is the official fast food of those who stand with ukraine!
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1497428052988641281?s=20&t=l7_XhFHDyXpdyYOHBhn3QA "I need ammunition, not a ride," said Ukraine's analogue to Stephen Colbert. This man had better live through this because I want to go to Ukraine and shake his goddamn hand someday.
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tracecomplete posted:"I need ammunition, not a ride," said Ukraine's analogue to Stephen Colbert. If he survives this, that man is going to be able to drink anywhere for free.
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ronya posted:I understand that attempting to hold a position is bad odds when one can't afford to sustain aerial superiority given the vast gulf in what Russia can bring to bear, so giving up ground to pick advantageous fights was always a given The funny thing is, as of yesterday, Russia could not really sustain air superiority either. It was closer to an air parity situation. I think it helps that new AA weapon systems are crossing into Ukraine from Poland.
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