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Mokotow posted:Based on my visit to the border yesterday, and not giving away much due to op sec, I can say I have a pretty good idea how weapons and supplies are coming into Ukraine and can confirm that they in fact do. How many MANPADS did you manage to hide in that cat? Protip - they go down with less fighting if you hide them in a bit of cream cheese or something.
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I'm pretty sure Russians being chill with civilians is due to Russian own propaganda. Their public stance is that all the resistance they encounter are nazi batallions while everybody else are happy to see them and just waiting for a chance to surrender. So when someone approaches them without throwing zig heils and speaks russian, their brains probably seitch to "not an enemy" mode.
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gay picnic defence posted:To be fair to the Americans there were plenty of suicide bombers who 'just wanted to talk' so I can understand them being pretty edgy when a guy ignores their instructions to stop. You don't actually have to hand it to them, this is just apologia for US war crimes
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steinrokkan posted:How many MANPADS did you manage to hide in that cat? Protip - they go down with less fighting if you hide them in a bit of cream cheese or something. The cat might have been a hidden fifth column operative I inadvertently helped sneak into the EU. I haven’t vetted him har har sorry so tired.
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Failed Imagineer posted:You don't actually have to hand it to them, this is just apologia for US war crimes Really? Is this really the time and place?
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Can't fathom the balls on some of these random Ukrainian civilians. Also quite canny 'do you know where you are going to?' as a casual question dropped in.
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Trump posted:Really? Is this really the time and place? Well, I didn't bring it up, but yeah people itt shouldn't be making excuses for violent occupations imo
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Mokotow posted:Based on my visit to the border yesterday, and not giving away much due to op sec, I can say I have a pretty good idea how “supplies” are coming into Ukraine and can confirm that they in fact do. Better late than never I suppose! Alchenar posted:I do worry that we are about to enter an extended period of everyone saying loudly that they support exclusion from SWIFT but for mysterious reasons it never happens. The mysterious reason is that Hungary loving sucks
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Trump posted:Really? Is this really the time and place? Well you ordered the war crimes, Mr. President.
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TulliusCicero posted:Again, all of this screams a military chain of command and supply lines in complete disarray. As someone deployed to the eFP I'm looking at russian sop's and tactical awareness & feeling pretty good about how we operate and how we'd fair in a fight.
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mobby_6kl posted:The mysterious reason is that Hungary loving sucks Evidently they didn't like this post https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497544729545920513
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nurmie posted:the compete failure of their "information warfare" is odd too - it seems like they make almost no attempts at actually controlling the narrative anywhere except for the domestic audience They're saving their budget for the Facebook ad campaigns in the upcoming US elections.
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Sekenr posted:I'm pretty sure Russians being chill with civilians is due to Russian own propaganda. Their public stance is that all the resistance they encounter are nazi batallions while everybody else are happy to see them and just waiting for a chance to surrender. So when someone approaches them without throwing zig heils and speaks russian, their brains probably seitch to "not an enemy" mode. Also these nations are just incredibly close. Hell, they were the same country a generation ago. Imagine if the US leadership decided to invade Canada for whatever dumb reason and a Canadian civilian rolled up next to a broken down American tank going "how's it goin' buds? Need a ride, haha?".
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acidx posted:Evidently they didn't like this post Et tu, Orbane?
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mobby_6kl posted:The mysterious reason is that Hungary loving sucks The lack of an effective mechanism/will to censure or exclude lovely fash like Orban from the EU is probably its worst problem E: well the point still definitely stands, but at least he's amenable to pressure
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nurmie posted:i think part of it is fog of war and opsec and nobody filming tiktoks around the areas where most combat happens. that said, i wouldn't be too optimistic as to how the ukrainian forces are faring, from what i can gather from more pro-russian telegram channels pretty much the primary spin from russian social media stuff has been to just rebrand absolutely everything as friendly fire incidents eg stuff like this https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1497481389876338688?s=20&t=QSO4rkTCQWBI_vftC2wj3A
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i think some videos of lost ukrainian armour and logistics convoys have already been posted here. not to mention some (alleged) friendly fire incidents
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Trump posted:Really? Is this really the time and place? yes, always also this is a loving comedy forum not a solemn congress session or something, people are just making poo poo up based on what they get on their twitter feed. chill ffs
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:One theory I've seen (not my idea) is that this war is deeply unpopular everywhere, including inside Russia, and that means all the troll farms and posting brigades who normally would be up in arms defending any Russian foreign policy action just . . . . aren't talking. Most people aren't gonna speak out against the war and get themselves disappeared but it's hard to make people create new war propaganda for a war they don't support. As a Russian I find it hard to gauge how popular the war is here, and in particular whether the anti-war people are a silent majority or a substantial minority. There's just too much of a disconnect between the different parts of the population
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Geisladisk posted:Imagine if the US leadership decided to invade Canada for whatever dumb reason and a Canadian civilian rolled up next to a broken down American tank going "how's it goin' buds? Need a ride, haha?".
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acidx posted:Evidently they didn't like this post I mean, Viktor must have realized that standing alone at this moment wasn't making him any friends, and with "friends" like Russia the alternative, he evidently caved.
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Libluini posted:I mean, Viktor must have realized that standing alone at this moment wasn't making him any friends, and with "friends" like Russia the alternative, he evidently caved. You know, with the money flow out of Russia cut off, I'm wondering if we're going to see many political parties that had a sure lock on things suddenly start running out of money and collapse?
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Libluini posted:I mean, Viktor must have realized that standing alone at this moment wasn't making him any friends, and with "friends" like Russia the alternative, he evidently caved. I always wonder how fascists feel when someone they support, like Putin, talks about how evil nazis are. Like, do they just nod along and go "oh ya, I hate "nazis" too!" in an ironic way or do they take it personally?
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We've reached the point of total saturation loathing of the Russian state. Like, if it's strong enough that orban is signing off on the previously unthinkable idea of a SWIFT ban for your country after reading the room and going "uh oh" then nobody loving likes you
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Kavros posted:We've reached the point of total saturation loathing of the Russian state. Like, if it's strong enough that orban is signing off on the previously unthinkable idea of a SWIFT ban for your country after reading the room and going "uh oh" then nobody loving likes you I think if Putin doesn't meet an end at the the hands of a balcony, China is going to do to Russia what Russia has done to Belarus. A Russian nesting doll of increasingly petty tyrants isoleated from everybody except their immediate overlords.
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My Russian wife just came to me and said we didn't have a proper date for years. So we are going to a protest in front of the Russian Embassy in Budapest at 4pm local.
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cstang posted:The sabotage groups wearing Ukraine uniforms. Just to be clear, the "sabotage groups" are almost certainly not Russian soldiers wearing Ukrainian uniforms, but pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens. They do exist, and initially there were severe fears about the extent to which they had infiltrated the Ukrainian military and leadership. Only seeing a handful of saboteurs is honestly a relief -- I certainly expected worse. nurmie posted:the compete failure of their "information warfare" is odd too - it seems like they make almost no attempts at actually controlling the narrative anywhere except for the domestic audience There was tons of controlling the narrative stuff globally before the declaration of war, and there were tons of people in the west regurgitating literal Kremlin talking points -- even on a certain dead gay comedy forum. It's just that those talking points really don't mesh well with Russian actions since, and so now it's kind of hard to say anything.
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I read up a bit on ban airplane exports part of EU sanctions and its a pretty big deal. 39 % of Russian civil airliners are Airbus. Sanction makes them unusable due to either canelled lease contracts or lack of spare parts which are also banned. If the US doesn't suck and supports this they will lose ANOTHER 36 % which are Boeing. In a month they will have almost no civil aviation.
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Many people itt take the (already) speculative conclusions from Twitter and add their own stuff on top of them. We now literally have pages of post-mortem analyses of why Putin failed the invasion, after only two days of fighting. Sure, it's not going ideal but some posters itt have genuinely transcended into a fantasy world. This website gives numbers based on visual evidence: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html and I have also seen all videos we have so far. Based on that, and compared to Azerbaijan-Armenia (for example), where Azeris where truly wiping the floor with the opposition, all we have really seen are singular cases of stuff happening. And yet, many posters are very happy to extrapolate entire scenarios ("The Russian army has no fuel!") from like one video and the similar twitter discussion, and then ending up in an evaluation of the Russian military commanders or whatever. We don't even really know what happened so far. Sure, it may be possible that the entire Russian army is stuck without fuel and the Ghost of Kyiv has destroyed the Russian airforce. However, it may also very well be that Russia has failed one or two minor operations and Kyiv will be falling in a week, rather than in three days. Am I the only one who finds this really weird? Edit: Just to be entirely clear - I hope with all my heart the invasion fails quickly. Haramstufe Rot fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:My Russian wife just came to me and said we didn't have a proper date for years. So we are going to a protest in front of the Russian Embassy in Budapest at 4pm local. Aww!  You know what they say. The couple that fights tyranny together, stays together.
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Hungary had Poland to back them up in the past, now they don't even need to ask what there position is on this one.
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Libluini posted:I mean, Viktor must have realized that standing alone at this moment wasn't making him any friends, and with "friends" like Russia the alternative, he evidently caved. IMO the fundamental thing is that these fascists just aren't loyal at all.They are always looking out for opportunities to gently caress others over for their own short term gain, including their current allies. This goes for every country with insurgent fascist movements.
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Trump posted:If anyone is curious about what the TOS-1 artillery the Russians are bringing is capable of: Needs to be fairly close to the front line, range of 2.7km or the upgraded one is around 6km.
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