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gay picnic defence posted:Looks like those guys have scored a bit of weaponry amongst all the poo poo in those trucks. I assume it's similar enough to their own that they'll be able to put it to good use. Update on that: https://twitter.com/OSICnick/status/1497850577254072320?t=P79Sop0VL_Y_K87XDqt44Q&s=19
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Rust Martialis posted:This is not the Lesson of Stalingrad. The Lesson of Stalingrad is that turning a city into rubble makes it *more* defensible. It was the lesson of Grozny though. I think maybe the lesson of Stanlingrad was that it wasn't leveled enough before the troops entered.
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Baronjutter posted:They're basically saying they found a t-90 tank that had run out of ammo and supplies so were able to capture the crew without having to do any shooting and he's their trophy they're bringing to the army to turn in. Then they make him say glory to ukraine. It's funny but this is the exact sort of thing you're not supposed to do with POW's. They look like civilians so I don't think they have to worry about violating the Geneva conventions. Scapegoat posted:OK dumb drone question. How effective are the current generation of US strike drones given the Russian air superiority and how difficult are they to operate (as in fly some to border, donate to Ukraine then control from Lviv by a Ukrainian with a US guy zooming in on the flight to give him instructions)? Also is the tech too advanced to consider giving to Ukraine? Is this any differant to the weapons and training they are already getting? The biggest thing stopping us from doing this is the absolute shitfest Russia would throw if they found out.
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BlackIronHeart posted:If I was a civilian in a warzone and I captured a military tank, I'd be painting it all kinds of crazy poo poo and telling anyone to gently caress off, it's mine. this is my home now *slams down hatch*
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Ikasuhito posted:https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1497845415684685829 Is it telling that this is yet another video of Russian armour on its own with either no or very limited infantry support? Guys out of the tanks look to just be the tankers with their own personal defence weapons.
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Baronjutter posted:They're basically saying they found a t-90 tank that had run out of ammo and supplies so were able to capture the crew without having to do any shooting and he's their trophy they're bringing to the army to turn in. Then they make him say glory to ukraine. It's funny but this is the exact sort of thing you're not supposed to do with POW's. Civilians aren't bound to following the various rules of war conventions for uniformed forces afaik
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1497829216695599104 The best part is they DIDN'T, almost all the shots are going incredibly wide.
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BlackIronHeart posted:If I was a civilian in a warzone and I captured a military tank, I'd be painting it all kinds of crazy poo poo and telling anyone to gently caress off, it's mine. You sound Ukrainian. Are you Ukrainian?
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KitConstantine posted:Russia seems to have launched a bunch of offensives this morning - lots of fighting in Buncha near Kyiv
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Baronjutter posted:The best part is they DIDN'T, almost all the shots are going incredibly wide. Also it's not a tank it's a statue https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497831574116651008?t=rM9y_coTL48RliG6ykOKYQ&s=19
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Here's an interesting video that lays out some possible reasons for the Russian invasion. Of course the matter of NATO expansion is considered, but the more novel argument is that Ukraine could become a major supplier and competitor against Russia in natural gas. That is to say, Russia's economy is dependent on oil and natural gas, but Ukraine's recently discovered reserves could beat out Russia and truly wreck their economy. Which also explains why Putin is willing to bite the bullet on sanctions. Donetsk and Luhansk also happen to be near major shale gas reserves... https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE America Inc. fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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Ikasuhito posted:https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1497845415684685829 Ikasuhito posted:https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1497845415684685829 Jesus christ, that's nuts. By all signs the Russians have orders not to make too much of a mess, and I'm glad they're playing nice, but those soldiers can't be all that thrilled about the mission.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1497829216695599104 I saw that earlier. I'm confused because there look to be smoke or impact puffs on the BMP that's driving, but maybe it's firing back? Either way that Russian BMP totally lit up that statue lmao
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Play posted:It's gonna be devastating to Ukraine and the longer it drags on the worse it'll be. There's already been heavy damage to crucial infrastructure, and all economic activity is basically on pause for the duration. The country will need aid,. Yes, I think we all can agree that would be a bad outcome. e: gah, beaten again, this time on the civilians blocking the tank. But that's pretty brave of them.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Pretty sure it'd be GLONASS rather than GPS. Which may perform even worse in built up areas. I mean they can just whip out their smartphone and use Google Maps or Yandex Maps I bet since its the Russian army most drivers use actual paper maps.
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Baronjutter posted:The best part is they DIDN'T, almost all the shots are going incredibly wide. This is the best kind of comedy because as soon as you see it, you think "the joke is that they're shooting at a non-functional monument" but then you realize the real joke is they shot down a loving light pole.
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Shibawanko posted:i cant think of many neutral countries in the region for negotiations. switzerland maybe? Yeah the Swiss are trying to thread the needle with sanction enforcement to technically comply while still being able to There is a diplomatic advantage to not being party to a conflict but on the other hand it rather weakens your position if one of the parties has been pumping your economy for decades. This doesn't mention anything about the luxury goods export ban and Russian buyers of Swiss watches and art brokered by Swiss galleries is a very big deal here.
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Telsa Cola posted:One thing I just realized is that everyone and their mother likely has a smart phone of some kind and can and probably do take quality video of the Russians rolling through. Or they're texting their children or friends in the defense with video, allowing to easily coordinate the attacks.
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Seeing a lot of videos popping up of various captured Russian soldiers allegedly in Kharkiv. I won't post them because there's not enough context to verify, but that's the latest buzz.
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Baronjutter posted:They're basically saying they found a t-90 tank that had run out of ammo and supplies so were able to capture the crew without having to do any shooting and he's their trophy they're bringing to the army to turn in. Then they make him say glory to ukraine. It's funny but this is the exact sort of thing you're not supposed to do with POW's.
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Mustard Iceman posted:Russia says it's not an invasion or a war. Prisoners of Military Peacekeeping Exercise Fucky Wuckies?
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Alctel posted:Yeah you can definitely jam/spoof the sat tracking systems in a local area My understanding is from a few years ago but GPS is controlled by the LA AFB near LAX in El Segundo for commercial GPS and military GPS is run out of Pearl Harbor. The US can turn off GPS for a given region or reduce it's accuracy so that is useless whenever they want. One reason why Russia wanted to develop its own system. When I worked in El Segundo near LAX, whenever Air Force one was landing or taking off, our phone GPS'es would take a huge poo poo.. you'll be driving on the 405, and google maps will throw you 15 miles out into the pacific all of a sudden for a while.
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Mustard Iceman posted:Russia says it's not an invasion or a war. They certainly seem to be telling their soldiers this, given the quality of their fightkng.
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Scapegoat posted:OK dumb drone question. How effective are the current generation of US strike drones given the Russian air superiority and how difficult are they to operate (as in fly some to border, donate to Ukraine then control from Lviv by a Ukrainian with a US guy zooming in on the flight to give him instructions)? Also is the tech too advanced to consider giving to Ukraine? Is this any differant to the weapons and training they are already getting
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Big K of Justice posted:My understanding is from a few years ago but GPS is controlled by the LA AFB near LAX in El Segundo for commercial GPS and military GPS is run out of Pearl Harbor. The only ways I can think to actually implement that would be to have the satellite try to dictate the accuracy to the devices in a given area, in which case a custom device could just ignore that, or to actually skew the time the satellite gives by a random amount, which would presumably affect a really large area. Budzilla posted:Not a strike drone but the flight path of a US Global Hawk drone was posted today and it had a flight path that loitered over eastern Ukraine in a very unplanned way and it wasn't shot down (afaik). You would think russian SAMs would get it. That was from earlier in the week before the war.
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Mustard Iceman posted:Russia says it's not an invasion or a war. I love how many wars technically aren't wars. Also, holy poo poo gently caress Putin: https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1497854199165591553
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Majorian posted:I love how many wars technically aren't wars. I'm assuming the reason for this is that the request for a meeting in Belarus is actually a trap and Putin doesn't want things to stop when they nab Zelensky
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Baronjutter posted:Making fun of confused lost tourists doesn't violate the geneva convention. The US tried to get it in but the rest of the signatories laughed at us so that's why we didn't sign it.
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BattleMaster posted:I'm assuming the reason for this is that the request for a meeting in Belarus is actually a trap and Putin doesn't want things to stop when they nab Zelensky Yeah, it's like they thought they weren't tipping their hands enough.
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KillHour posted:That was from earlier in the week before the war.
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GABA ghoul posted:https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1497853190821367811?t=4ZHJTnPv-nyegUpewwvzRA&s=19 Look, that's just the natural behavior of Russian conscripts in their native habitat. Budzilla posted:My bad. Mine, actually. I didn't give enough context when I posted it (oops). I can't find it again, but that same drone was hanging out over the Black Sea and then hosed off to Greece today.
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Leal posted:As funny as it is watching the supposed number 2 strongest military be befuddled by removal of street signs and drive in circles, do they really not have a basic GPS? Oooh, this one's in my wheelhouse! I use GPS in my profession though I'm not an expert on it, and while I can't explain what exactly is happening but I can offer some possibilities. So one of the things to understand about GPS is that GPS isn't actually international - it's the name of the American global navsat system, but the Europeans and Russians, among others, operate their own systems as well (Galileo and GLONASS, respectively). All three of these systems have global reach and commercial GNSS systems can take into one or more of these networks, and tapping into more is generally better because of the way GNSS systems work. See, the way they function is by receiving signals from multiple satellites to triangulate your position. One reading isn't enough, and the more readings you have, the more accurate the read will be (you want a minimum of three or four satellites in range). Furthermore, the actual angle of the reading matters as well - ideally you want satellite reads that are fairly far apart from each other because if you're getting readings from a bunch of satellites that are too close together you end up leaving a lot of room for error. Because of that, you can see how tapping into multiple GNSS systems improves accuracy, as you have more possible satellites to draw on for readings. The problem is that I assume that GPS and Galileo are probably not talking to Russian military GNSS receivers at this time, forcing them to rely only on the GLONASS system itself. This isn't the end of the world - GLONASS isn't all that inaccurate by itself, though it's slightly less accurate than GPS - but it does mean they have fewer satellites they can get readings off. Combine this with urban terrain shadowing satellite signals, and you might end up with somewhat more inaccurate readings that could throw you off with the relatively tight quarters of urban navigation. There's also a thing about the different systems using different geodetic datums as well (i.e. where the GNSS system reckons the center of the Earth to be as it spits out lat/long), but the differences between different countries by this point should be fairly minor. Still, GPS is only as accurate as the map you have - so how accurate are the Russian maps of Ukraine right now, after eight years in which I presume the Ukrainians weren't keen on sharing cartographic info with the Russians? Hypothetically one might use Google Maps or something, but I do have to wonder - can that be blocked on Russian phones in the Ukraine? Alternatively, nobody wants to be the guy with his head down staring at a map in an urban combat zone and they were hoping they could figure things out just by looking. Couldn't say for sure, but the above is a possibility!
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fatherboxx posted:Bayraktar footage? the Facebook posts claims to be. no way to tell if it's real or if it's recycled from Azerbaijan.
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