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I don't count anyone that's cut it at any point. Just as I wouldn't count Hogan's mustache.
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Low Desert Punk posted:who’s the wrestler with the most tv time that took the longest to actually get good? mark henry? Yoshi-Hashi?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:When they added a woman to the cast he was absolutely brutal to her according to several cast members, basically telling her she didn't belong there because she was a woman, it was a man's show, etc. Yeah, I recall someone talking about him saying to her that it was "a man's show" and "we don't need you here". He seemed like just an all-round arsehole. bartok posted:Yoshi-Hashi? In fairness to Y-H, I don't think his problem was that he wasn't ever good, but that he was in the company of people who were incredible in some way that he got overshadowed. At one point in Chaos, he was alongside Okada (potentially going to be the greatest wrestler of all time), Nakamura (one of the greatest wrestlers in the world at the time and ridiculously charismatic), and Ishii (another one of the greatest wrestlers in the world). Then you've also got someone like Yano, who while not necessarily the greatest in-ring, is incredibly popular and loved, and Y-H just kinda gets relegated to the background even before you add people like Tanahashi, Naito, Suzuki, etc. But the pandemic happened and he had a good run in the New Japan Cup, had some great performances in the G1, had one of the best feel good stories of recent years with the trios title tournament, and is now in a fun and solid tag team with Goto. It's funny to think that if six or so years ago you could have said "In 2022, you'll be more excited for a YOSHI-HASHI match than a Shinsuke Nakamura one" I'd have laughed at you and called you crazy, but yet here we are.
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Back to the wrestler cameos: Tomohiro Ishii did the voice for Nathan Jones' character in the Japanese dub of Mad Max Fury Road.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Back to the wrestler cameos: I thought it was Makabe?
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Low Desert Punk posted:who’s the wrestler with the most tv time that took the longest to actually get good? mark henry? Good in what way? Because id argue sexual chocolate and DLo was entertaining and that was what? Four years into his run?
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I would argue that Mark Henry never got good
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Dimebags Brain posted:Naruki Doi and Hirooki Goto showed up as two goons in the Japanese miniseries CRISIS. Low Desert Punk posted:who’s the wrestler with the most tv time that took the longest to actually get good? mark henry?
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Benne posted:I would argue that Mark Henry never got good
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Lumbermouth posted:I thought it was Makabe? Pretty sure it was Makabe, yeah.
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Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. The one I liked best was Raven & Saturn
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. The two months of Evolution being a thing again was pretty cool.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. Does the Horsemen count? Barry felt like a much superior version of Ole.
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The little Evolution reunion worked, if only because it had to end before it got tiresome with Batista going back to his regular job. And I'm honestly not sure if the Horsemen would count, I'm leaning yes.
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I don't think the Horsemen counts here since the group was still together, just swapping out the 4th member for a while. I'd point to their later WCW run with Benoit and Pillman and then Benoit and McMichael and the Jeff Jarrett drama where no one gave a poo poo about them as an example of how it doesn't succeed, doesn't really fail, but just no one cares. The later revival with Malenko was cool for exactly 1 week and then dead.
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And now I'm leaning in the other direction.
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How can I both learn what 90s AJPW matches are crucial to appreciating the period and then actually watch them?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The little Evolution reunion worked, if only because it had to end before it got tiresome with Batista going back to his regular job. And I'm honestly not sure if the Horsemen would count, I'm leaning yes. It was worth if for BLUEtista and also that awesome rear end 6 man tag with the Shield.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:How can I both learn what 90s AJPW matches are crucial to appreciating the period and then actually watch them? The poster Ditch was my personal most important resource for this period.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:How can I both learn what 90s AJPW matches are crucial to appreciating the period and then actually watch them? Big Jule on youtube is a great place to start watching and appreciating https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC32X24xrKsOcSs8v1SErk8g/videos
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Nehru the Damaja posted:How can I both learn what 90s AJPW matches are crucial to appreciating the period and then actually watch them? Watch this and then start clicking recommended videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdAVWuR7x5w
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That thumbnail sums it up
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I would also recommend Joseph Montecillo's Walking the King's Road series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjt_W4rfm0 He breaks down key King's Road era matches and fills you in the context of each of them
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. I liked the Shield re-union with Ambrose and Rollins. Probably because it acknowledged and played on how the stable broke up, and had *gasp* actual continuity, which felt like an anomaly in the WWE at the time.
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Luckily Nippon TV seems to be pretty okay with 80's and 90's All Japan being on Youtube and is not doing a TV Asahi of removing everything from being online
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. Golden Lovers worked pretty well until Kenny Omega left
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Lily Catts posted:I would also recommend Joseph Montecillo's Walking the King's Road series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjt_W4rfm0 In addition to this, here are some of the matches (on youtube) that are mentioned. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BpVZD89xFZMmCHkq46Vxjm37HZmJ_vhE4ej9W_koT2U/edit#gid=0
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has there ever been a tag team or stable reunion that actually worked? Every version of the nWo, DX, Shield, etc that I can think of past the first paled in comparison. Does the Hart Foundation count? The full Bret/Owen/Davey/Anvil/Pillman version was a hell of a lot cooler than the original Bret/Anvil team and all the other various tag team pairings that ran at different times.
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pseudodragon posted:Does the Hart Foundation count? The full Bret/Owen/Davey/Anvil/Pillman version was a hell of a lot cooler than the original Bret/Anvil team and all the other various tag team pairings that ran at different times. I was thinking about them also. Didn't Bret/Jim get back together for a bit and win the tag belts after Bret's first run as IC champ?
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EdsTeioh posted:I was thinking about them also. Didn't Bret/Jim get back together for a bit and win the tag belts after Bret's first run as IC champ? I don't think they ever officially reunited as a team after their first run? Even with the full-fledged Hart Foundation reunion in the 90s, I don't think they tagged. Jim & Owen tagged in the early 90s, but never got anywhere close to holding the belts.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I don't think they ever officially reunited as a team after their first run? Even with the full-fledged Hart Foundation reunion in the 90s, I don't think they tagged. Jim & Owen tagged in the early 90s, but never got anywhere close to holding the belts. Yeah, you're right. I was spotty watching wrestling around that time but for some reason thought that Bret and Jim got back together after Bret's first solo run but it looks like him winning the IC title was about a year after they lost their second tag championship to the Nastys.
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The Hart Foundation won/lost the tag titles in 87, and in 88, after the WM 4 Battle Royal which resulted on Bret turning face, they split up. But both floundered as singles wrestlers for a couple of years, so they got put back together as a team, which saw them wining the titles from Demolition in '90, which they them lost in '91, and were split up again. And then Bret won the IC title, which began his rise as a singles.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:How can I both learn what 90s AJPW matches are crucial to appreciating the period and then actually watch them? Follow Eddie Kingston on Twitter.
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Davros1 posted:The Hart Foundation won/lost the tag titles in 87, and in 88, after the WM 4 Battle Royal which resulted on Bret turning face, they split up. But both floundered as singles wrestlers for a couple of years, so they got put back together as a team, which saw them wining the titles from Demolition in '90, which they them lost in '91, and were split up again. And then Bret won the IC title, which began his rise as a singles. I don't remember what happened immediately after WM4 that caused their singles runs to fail, but Bret's turn on Bad News Brown was the key thing that made him my favorite as a kid. There was no looking back after that.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I don't remember what happened immediately after WM4 that caused their singles runs to fail, but Bret's turn on Bad News Brown was the key thing that made him my favorite as a kid. There was no looking back after that. They didn't anything with them after the split in 88. Just random matches against jobbers on the syndicated shows. Bret had a brief feud with Bad News, I think but it never amounted to anything.
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does anyone have that gif of ethan page yeeting darby allin into a pillar outside the ring on the indies
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no, the shot i'm remembering is from farther out and darby hits the pillar almost at the level of ethan's head edit: got it https://twitter.com/ClassicChhun/status/741484856601874432 looks like it might be the same spot, just a much better angle flatluigi fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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When Misawa and company left AJPW to form NOAH, were they able to keep their entrance music or did they have to make new ones? Though Misawa's entrance music is from a Jackie Chan movie anyway so lol
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