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ZombieLenin posted:And the USDOD and intelligence service saying there had been no appreciable change to Russia’s nuclear forces status. I agree but I also think it is fair to say that if someone points a gun, it is okay to feel uncomfortable or concerned even if you are 100% sure they are not going to fire. It is a lovely and disturbing feeling and that is why death threats are lovely even if they have little power behind them. This isn't exclusive to Russia either. It is lovely in any situation.
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Vorenus posted:https://www-g4media-ro.translate.go...r2wwyD8.twitter I mean, if it WAS shot down, what happens?
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CommieGIR posted:It's also the muddy season, right? So block up the road, unless you can clear it, that's it. You are going nowhere. Yep, springtime is coming, and global warming doesn’t help.
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I only know their handle and no. Still, interesting that they tried that one, really feels like they are throwing everything at a wall to see what sticks. Not that I blame them. Nenonen posted:Speaking of which, just year ago Russia had an exercise for unplugging from the internet. I'm sure they did it just out of curiosity and not because they thought it might happen. Some countries do that from time to time, but that's self-inflicted. It's very much something else when a neutral party screws with the foundation of the Internet (DNS and/or IP). It's extremely hazardous and thus cannot happen.
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Ridiculous how much koolaid the russian police drink: https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1499120917821149189?s=20&t=wD3PIc4N25Ohno33Rx8Isg
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Got raided today it seems, there are some photos of hundreds of metres long jams of metal wreckage. I would like to see as many of these as can be poured in the thread, because the concept of the scale of these convoy massings changes a lot. Maybe at least they can be defined forensically :p
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News: https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1499119611190599686
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cinci zoo sniper posted:What the hell, this is the 4th already.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Got raided today it seems, there are some photos of hundreds of metres long jams of metal wreckage. This, combined with the fact that the Ukraine is reporting they took back Makariv makes me a little hopeful they'll be able to free up some units for the rest of the country Kherson fell though. https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1499117021140815880?t=Vy4STiJ5XDWNq3NfaXjneA&s=19 And Ukraine still has air defenses https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1499112501996400642?t=jy_Uq3ZoBBYyLqE6GBYv_w&s=19 Edit: misspelled a city name KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Waiting for the olympics to end might have hosed them very hard with global warming and the mud.
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Nenonen posted:Can't think how or why. When Finnish airspace is violated, a jet is dispatched to identify the object. It will then be escorted out of airspace, if necessary. Usually these violations are brief, though, just a few minutes. A notice is then issued to Russia and the incident is publicized. Flight goons: how does this poo poo just happen in 2022? Like is it a part of the border where if you're on a slightly wrong bearing for a few minutes you're accidentally in Finland to the point where they call a jet in?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:I mean, if it WAS shot down, what happens? They still haven't located the missing fighter jet. Footage of the burning wreckage of the crashed copter was released earlier. The weather appears to be rather bad. https://youtu.be/vam5SuONNnA
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Hiro Protagonist posted:I mean, if it WAS shot down, what happens? There will be angry words and nothing else. Pablo Bluth posted:So it this accidentally-on-purpose, human incompetence (trigger happy sailors) or technical incompetence (missile systems going rogue and hitting the wrong target)?
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BoldFace posted:They still haven't located the missing fighter jet. Footage of the burning wreckage of the crashed copter was released earlier. The weather appears to be rather bad. If it was bad enough to get the Puma, I imagine it was bad enough to get the MiG.
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Alchenar posted:The local counter-attack in Donbas was mentioned earlier but looks like it's been wildly successful. Not enormously sure of the wisdom of attacking East when every HOI4 playing armchair general has assumed they should be getting ready to try to break out West but presumably there's a plan there. I'm obviously speculating because we have barely any OSINT picture in the east of Ukraine, but superficially it's not a bad plan. Kraftwerk posted:...if Ukrainian civilians can quickly figure out how to steal a BTR or a T-80U I see no reason why we can't dump all these extra M1s the US Army doesn't even need on Ukraine and let them figure it out...Like how hard can it possibly be? Maintenance takes the most experience. Even learning how to fix a thrown track will take a few hours the first time you do it. Some maintenance is done by removing the entire engine, which then requires a separate winch. Etc. etc. It wouldn't be undoable--western Ukraine is big--but the juice may not be worth the squeeze compared to just arming multiple light infantry battalions with lots of Javelins and Stingers (and simliar). Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:it is iirc the only MBT that uses a turbine. it definitely will not run on bunker fuel. I'd be willing to bet the base numbers are inaccurate, but I wonder if they were clever enough to change the ratio of dead:wounded. If not (and "if" is doing a lot of work here), then Russian forces have suffered over 20,000 casualties in the first week. They had, what, 150,000 on Ukraine's border? That's simply unsustainable with more reinforcements (like: full mobilization more). ZombieLenin posted:The exact composition and schematic layout of that depleted uranium armor is probably the most 'top secret' thing there is when it comes to the United States armored warfare forces. To my knowledge, this is still accurate. Hull breaches were a Big Deal because you had to know who saw what and got the riot act read to you. But holy poo poo does depleted uranium stop an awful lot. Threadkiller Dog posted:New reading material issued: "How to serve mankind"  Starks posted:You cannot possibly believe this lol. Where did you hear/read this? They've had mandatory conscription of ~200K young people per year for the past 8 years, with a 1 year tour. So probably closer to 1.5M, but each has served in the military for at least a year, and served on the Donbas front for 3 months of that. That's actually huge, because in long conflicts, guess when you're most likely to die? The first 3 months. Kind of like, "If you make it through the first 30 seconds of contact, you have a fighting chance", same goes for larg These are all just historical numbers, of course, and every conflict is different, but it means many Ukrainians getting called up aren't completely green. Morrow posted:I don't know the armchair general ratio for occupation, but 200k seems insufficient for 40 million. Hostile population? About 1:100. Russia would need at least 400K troops to occupy Ukraine. Even with those numbers you'll end up with cooks and mechanics guarding checkpoints, but it's doable. 150K with 20K casualties already? Not a chance. I still think Russia is most likely to win the conventional fight--they have a lot of artillery--like just a silly amount of it--but there is still hope. Red posted:https://twitter.com/rsiren2/status/1498799232177872906 Pookah posted:That woman is doing so much good by her stoical kindness. She strokes that poor Russian soldiers shoulder to comfort him, she signals to the other person to stop filming him, she tells his mother that he is safe and fed.
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OAquinas posted:Yes, stage a provocation when both nations are debating joining NATO. That will work out towards your goal of...*checks notes* limiting the expansion of NATO. TBH Russia p. much considers both countries to throw in with NATO in any conflict and they're both EU members. They do not consider FIN or SWE neutral parties and I doubt them joining NATO would really change Russia's calculus. That said, Russian planes entering either country's airspace is situation as usual.
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mdemone posted:Flight goons: how does this poo poo just happen in 2022? Yes, also testing/mapping the air defenses, response times etc. Russia "accidentally" breaches airspace a lot.
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1499080826599919633?cxt=HHwWosCy8beE580pAAAA God can you imagine the squabbling back at gestapo HQ over who gets to rough her up
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1499080826599919633?cxt=HHwWosCy8beE580pAAAA Brave brave brave. There's a true hero of the Soviet Union, Putin you loving fascist.
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:That's kinda gettin up there?? quote:As of July 19, 2021, according to the U.S. Department of Defense casualty website, there were 4,431 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 31,994 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of the Iraq War. So, yeah. The different killed / wounded ratio is probably because the Russians are getting drone struck vs. American soldiers facing small arms or small grade explosions while wearing body armor in armored vehicles.
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Answers Me posted:Putting any uncertainties about accuracy aside for a moment, that has to be a shitload more than they ever could have expected, goddamn In the Soviet-Afghan war the total number of Red Army soldiers KIA (not dead of disease) was less than 10,000 Less than 200 lost tanks But a poo poo ton of lost helicoptes.
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Despera posted:Waiting for the olympics to end might have hosed them very hard with global warming and the mud. They may have been genuinely hosed over by that, the US intel leaks, and Zelenskyi stalling. Kavros posted:I would like to see as many of these as can be poured in the thread, because the concept of the scale of these convoy massings changes a lot. Maybe at least they can be defined forensically :p One was posted here earlier: KitConstantine posted:And here's what happened to part of that 40km column
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mdemone posted:Flight goons: how does this poo poo just happen in 2022? It's deliberate, they poke Sweden and Finland every so often to remind them who is boss. Not a good week to do it though. You may have noticed that Russia is hamfisted at coersive diplomacy and prone to miscalculation.
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1499080826599919633?cxt=HHwWosCy8beE580pAAAA Just be glad they didnt beat her up.
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El Perkele posted:TBH Russia p. much considers both countries to throw in with NATO in any conflict and they're both EU members. They do not consider FIN or SWE neutral parties and I doubt them joining NATO would really change Russia's calculus. Russian planes "blunder" into Norway's (a NATO member) airspace quite often as well. It's more or less business as usual.
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How many Ukrainian soldiers lost their lives to achieve this? Should be quite a few less, right?
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Zhanism posted:Just be glad they didnt beat her up. Maybe she can share a cell with those 12-year-old children who got jailed yesterday.
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MikeC posted:It's definitely on the high side for 5 days. The truth is though that when you don't have crippling levels of superiority in airpower to plough 90 percent of the resistance before hand, war is still hard. Especially when you seem to be making it up as you go along and lead units are bumbling down the road expecting no resistance. They had decided at the latest in January; none of the demands were realistic and it’s becoming clearer that there is nothing short of giving the entire eastern part of Ukraine as well as most of the coast would have stopped this war.
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Ynglaur posted:It's not necessarily a bad idea operationally. Attacking east isn't trying to breach the Russian frontier or anything (though hitting supply depots would be tempting). Instead, it can force the Russians to break contact and give Ukrainian forces time and space to disengage across that front and maneuver (perhaps west, for example). Yeah if you look at the map Ukraine have put a highly mobile force in a position where it could theoretically attack the supply lines of the Russian army attacking Kharkiv. If the Russians were competent you could see this as a way to force them to disengage from the siege in order to restructure their lines. If the Russians were competent. a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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ImpAtom posted:It is incredibly depressing if those numbers are true. 5000 people dead on one side alone. Even if the goal is accomplished it just feels so meaningless. If the goal is accomplished, it will only lead to more death for years to come.
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