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Are there any more turns left on the screw when it comes to sanctions?
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Mar 3, 2022 18:49
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KitConstantine posted:
I’m expecting a Grozny here, personally. He’ll declare that everyone who has decided to stay must be a combatant, and will intensify city fire.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:49
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BIG DEAL
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cr0y posted:Are there any more turns left on the screw when it comes to sanctions? Oil and Gas, but EU countries are concerned about doing so. https://twitter.com/AndrewScheidl/status/1499385584028110848?s=20&t=u-kc_2B2T6Qeg5RwaLORfA
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Mar 3, 2022 18:50
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KitConstantine posted:
The only downside for Russian is that it would allow some  Nazis to escape denazification, and it's not like they actually care about achieving that objective. Apart from that, I really don't see any reason not to go for it earnestly.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:50
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cr0y posted:Are there any more turns left on the screw when it comes to sanctions? Europe is still paying Russia like a billion euros per day for gas and oil. Problem is they'd have to endure great pains to cut it off and I'm not entirely sure there's political will for that.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:50
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It will probably just be a Syrian "ceasefire". Keep dropping bombs and then scream bloody murder when they shoot back
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Mar 3, 2022 18:50
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Hmm if only some major political party hadn't cozied up to Russia/used a nothingburger on Ukraine to tie up there funding. Alas, it must of been the Democrats as the records from this time period have long been lost. No need to look deeper into it.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:51
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KitConstantine posted:
Russia needs time to refuel the tanks.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:53
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Dante posted:Also note that EU provides no military protection and is not a military alliance, that's why Moldova can apply and Austria can be a member. That is not true, article 42.7 of the Treaty of the European Union is a mutual defense clause. quote:If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States
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Mar 3, 2022 18:54
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SaTaMaS posted:Is there any sign that the UK will try to get back into the EU now that Europe is under increased threat and they look like patsies who fell for Putin's plan to restore russian dominance? What on earth for? UK is still part of NATO which is a bigger stick than the EU as far as defensive pacts go, also it still has some nukes. EU is mainly economic and UK not being in the EU hurts the average person a hundred percent more than the rich, which is good enough for the majority of the ruling class.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:54
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https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1499391842986741764/photo/1
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Mar 3, 2022 18:54
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Also sadly the UK labour leader that was railroaded, while good on almost everything else, is seemingly sympathetic to the NATO caused this war argument. I'd love to be wrong on that, if any UKgoons want to correct me.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:55
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mlmp08 posted:I think a lot of people including this post are oversimplifying SIGINT and targeting processes over several hundred kms against a force of varying levels of crypto ranging from none to proper unexpired crypto. You're moving the goal post here a little, it's gone from 10km to 100's. I'm simplifying it because this is not a military minded forum or audience. It's fairly easy to triangulate frequencies when static even when a HQ moves, once you know the frequencies they are operating on you then can track the movement. A lot goes into frequency profiling as well, it builds up a picture of the force your facing. Battlegroup HQs don't operate that far from the forward line of own troops either, conventionally that can be passed down to the ISTAR part of a Battlegroup to either neutralise with fires or for recce elements to infiltrate. We would be naive to think that EW teams aren't operating in Ukraine in order to find HQ & G4 elements in order to shape defence or counter attacks, local content attacks that have good SIGINT can be devastating.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:55
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Peace talks with Gracie, my Russian Blue, have broken down. She put her paw under the door in what I thought was a gesture of good faith, but when I poked her beans she scratched me and retreated.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:56
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[quote="Charlotte Hornets" post="521865049"] When people said Russia was going in hard I didn't think that us what they meant.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:57
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TheMadMilkman posted:IKEA uses a lot of wood from Russian sources. I’m guessing those contracts are gone now. Sorry for the aside but, IKEA is clearcutting the last European old growth forests in Romania and it's suppliers are killing the people trying to stop it: https://newrepublic.com/article/165354/ikea-romania-illegal-logging
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Mar 3, 2022 18:57
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freeasinbeer posted:Also sadly the UK labour leader that was railroaded, while good on almost everything else, is seemingly sympathetic to the NATO caused this war argument. It’s not a very weird opinion to have: https://twitter.com/rnaudbertrand/status/1498491107902062592?s=21
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Mar 3, 2022 18:57
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jaete posted:"Not suspicious" jesus gently caress It could also be that he just died, at a very awkward and suspicious time. An autopsy should confirm one way or another. cinci zoo sniper posted:
This is the most special military operation of all time. Maybe they were right to call it that and not a war 
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Mar 3, 2022 18:57
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You might want to NSFW that.
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CommieGIR posted:Oil and Gas, but EU countries are concerned about doing so. Some sympathetic Russians need to start getting very creative with angle grinders out in bum gently caress Russia where they won't get caught... Well except I imagine civilians also use those tracks
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Mar 3, 2022 18:59
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The Manliest Army in the world folks: No food, no supplies, no Homo  That country is a right wing farcical nightmare
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Mar 3, 2022 18:59
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freeasinbeer posted:Also sadly the UK labour leader that was railroaded, while good on almost everything else, is seemingly sympathetic to the NATO caused this war argument. I mean the current one is more keen on sabre rattling than our current gov. Corbyn is going "I don't like this, but there may be other reasons than just Russia is the worst". But It's probably going to be a bit weirder than that. Corbyn is a very comitted pacifist and, whilst you can disagree with that as much as you like, it's at least ethically explicable.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:00
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KitConstantine posted:The Russians destroyed the checkpoints blocking their advance on the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhia - site of the protests blocking the road from before. Quoting myself - personally I'm hoping it will stop them from continuing to shell the area immediately around a Nuclear Power Plant because jesus christ
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Mar 3, 2022 19:00
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as it's missiles being fired on the area around a goddamn nuclear plant, and down this thread has footage of the checkpoint being destroyed
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Play posted:It could also be that he just died, at a very awkward and suspicious time. An autopsy should confirm one way or another. 
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Mar 3, 2022 19:00
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selec posted:It’s not a very weird opinion to have: The opinion pieces published in RIA put that to bed pretty soundly, imo. This is a war to reestablish the Russian empire, and they don't give two shits about NATO, beyond how to dismantle it. The thing that flipped them out in prior was EU integration, NATO wasn't on the table until post 2014, and everyone knows that was a pipe dream.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:01
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m expecting a Grozny here, personally. He’ll declare that everyone who has decided to stay must be a combatant, and will intensify city fire. Well that's depressing to think about...
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Mar 3, 2022 19:02
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Ikasuhito posted:Looks like someone's having a bonfire. 
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Mar 3, 2022 19:04
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He doesn't appear to actually say this in the article, not surprising considering it's the New York Post though.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:05
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MonkeyLibFront posted:You're moving the goal post here a little, it's gone from 10km to 100's. No, I am not. I am talking about how a lot of the Russian radios that are shown unencrypted in videos etc are short-range tactical radios that often have ranges of 10 km or 20 km or whatever. I am also referencing the fact that US/NATO SIGINT assets are hundreds of km away (your rivet joints, etc). I am talking about two different types of people, one being the people broadcasting and the other being people hundreds of km away collecting.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:05
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I’ve been out of commission for a day - what’s the situation look like right now?
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freeasinbeer posted:The opinion pieces published in RIA put that to bed pretty soundly, imo. This is a war to reestablish the Russian empire, and they don't give two shits about NATO, beyond how to dismantle it. The thing that flipped them out in prior was EU integration, NATO wasn't on the table until post 2014, and everyone knows that was a pipe dream. I don’t see how Kissinger, Chomsky and Mearshimer, three dudes who would not agree on much else, all agree on this without considering it. Doesn’t seem like those three are likely targets of a concerted propaganda effort. I just don’t think any understanding of this that doesn’t start in the early 90s does much justice to explaining what is going on. That’s not ancient history, that’s the material backdrop for how we got here. Like, the broad consensus on the Treaty of Versailles laying fundamental groundwork for WWII was not a broad consensus for quite a while. I suspect that this is a similar case, that with distance and cooled passions the foundations will be much more recognizable and generally agreed-on. selec fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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Good Lord if it wasn't for the nukes the United States would absolutely dismantle this military in like I don't know 3 days?
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cr0y posted:Good Lord if it wasn't for the nukes the United States would absolutely dismantle this military in like I don't know 3 days? Which is exactly why they have nukes
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Mar 3, 2022 19:07
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Sorry Boris they stole your fuckstick
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Mar 3, 2022 19:08
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selec posted:It’s not a very weird opinion to have: In a sense, I don't blame US politicians for picking Liberal Hegemony as the default foreign policy. Imagine some cranky old 'Cold War' guy told you that Great Power Politics is still relevant and that you had to respect the borders of autocratic countries. And the new guy said that's nonsense, ignore the old rules. You could just promote democratic regime change for world peace and global prosperity because you're a superhero and you get better election results because you stand up to bullies/nazis. It's almost a non choice.
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I mean Russia is a massive place so realistically a war would take way longer than that, but yeah I feel pretty confident about NATO engaging with these guys if it ever came to it right now Of course that would also very likely mean the end of the modern world, so let's not do that
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Mar 3, 2022 19:09
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cr0y posted:Good Lord if it wasn't for the nukes the United States would absolutely dismantle this military in like I don't know 3 days? The US would take some time to get everything into place but after that yeah, they would absolutely steamroll it.
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Mar 3, 2022 19:10
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selec posted:I don’t see how Kissinger, Chomsky and Mearshimer, three dudes who would not agree on much else, all agree on this without considering it. That's because they are all racist pieces of poo poo.
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SaTaMaS posted:Is there any sign that the UK will try to get back into the EU now that Europe is under increased threat and they look like patsies who fell for Putin's plan to restore russian dominance? Brexiteers still in charge along with a WAR!! to keep the distractions going post covid (it's still going btw), so i don't see any change till 2024 at the earliest. Even starting to get in again will be a decade (probably three) in the making and that's being a drunk optimist... it's too much to say here but go with ''NO!'' for the next thirty years. And here i am patiently waiting for my Northern Ireland to rejoin with Éire somewhere down the line. 
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