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Bubbacub posted:Why isn't Putin putting up more of a fuss about the open shipment of NATO arms into Ukraine? It's a full-blown proxy war now. He said anyone who supplies Ukraine will face the consequences or some poo poo. There was also a threat against Germany posted a few pages ago. By his own logic if he did try to do something against it (nuclear war yeah I know) Belarus would be a target of sanctions and completely gently caress the invasion up.
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Bubbacub posted:Why isn't Putin putting up more of a fuss about the open shipment of NATO arms into Ukraine? It's a full-blown proxy war now. Actually, it's only a proxy war if it starts in the proxy war region of Korea. Otherwise it's just sparkling mass murder.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:He said anyone who supplies Ukraine will face the consequences or some poo poo. Belarus is a target of sanctions.
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Morrow posted:Alll his hard power is being blown up by javelins. I know this is just a shitpost but I think it’s really, really important to remember that this is incorrect, firstly that the Russian force is clearly doing fine in the south of Ukraine but also that, seriously guys, he has thousands of nuclear weapons under his control.
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Bubbacub posted:Why isn't Putin putting up more of a fuss about the open shipment of NATO arms into Ukraine? It's a full-blown proxy war now. It's been a proxy war for 8 years, the masks are off now
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Bubbacub posted:Why isn't Putin putting up more of a fuss about the open shipment of NATO arms into Ukraine? It's a full-blown proxy war now. There's nothing he can do about it (short of nuclear annihilation).
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VorpalBunny posted:It's not a kids book, but there's a graphic novel kind of like this. In Baghdad. Yup and it's a good one.
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Morrow posted:The Bulgarians migrated to Serbia. Speaking of Serbia they're having Pro-Russia protests organized by right-wing organizations, including one with the very unsubtle name of 'The Night Wolves' https://twitter.com/UnaHajdari/status/1499825924157620233?s=20&t=LFYPk1xwIC8ES0ZraeOCRQ And now the Serbian Government is reportedly calling up military https://twitter.com/remilitari/status/1499914344703930377?s=20&t=YsnqK-8wS33IYmNWlQ7xgQ Serbia has criticized the attack on Ukraine but has not yet implemented sanctions. Also Kosovo requested to join NATO on Tuesday.
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KitConstantine posted:Speaking of Serbia they're having Pro-Russia protests organized by right-wing organizations, including one with the very unsubtle name of 'The Night Wolves' Night Wolves are Putin's personal biker gang.
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I don't think Putin is outright suicidal, I think he's drunk on power and miscalculated the effectiveness of his cyber/information campaigns in the last 6 years His continuing failure in Ukraine, even if it eventually succeeds, only shows how incredibly weak Russia is and how totally and completely it would lose in a war against NATO. This means nuclear is the only option and there is no loving way there isn't several rational people in positions where they could stop that button being pushed
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KitConstantine posted:Speaking of Serbia they're having Pro-Russia protests organized by right-wing organizations, including one with the very unsubtle name of 'The Night Wolves' Holy poo poo. This is loving insane we are literally reliving a Speedrun ofthe 30s.
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KitConstantine posted:Speaking of Serbia they're having Pro-Russia protests organized by right-wing organizations, including one with the very unsubtle name of 'The Night Wolves' What the gently caress. Goddamnit. I’m so glad I don’t live there anymore. Serbia continues to disappoint me. But of course their media was all 100% pro Russian. I warned of this.
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abigserve posted:I don't think Putin is outright suicidal, I think he's drunk on power and miscalculated the effectiveness of his cyber/information campaigns in the last 6 years What do you think is an acceptable nuclear war probability threshold for taking an action? If there's only a 5% likelihood that NATO shooting down a russian plane results in nuclear war, is it worth it? Do you think a 5% probability is reasonable? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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KitConstantine posted:Also Kosovo requested to join NATO on Tuesday. Kosovo requests to join NATO every tuesday, it's not even recognized as a country by all NATO members.
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the popes toes posted:"there is an external enemy, we have a war, we are waiting for the nukes (waiting!) – we are ready to endure to the last." Russian people did suffer a great deal over their history, in large part because they had really lovely luck with leadership, often having those more focused on "national greatness" rather than making things better for their people. Witness Peter-the-not-so-Great getting tens of thousand of peasants killed building himself a fancy new capital --- and still being called "Great" and having childrens stories around about how awesome he was and all that.
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Grouchio posted:Wait is Serbia joining the war in Ukraine on Russia's side? No.
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smug n stuff posted:I know this is just a shitpost but I think it’s really, really important to remember that this is incorrect, firstly that the Russian force is clearly doing fine in the south of Ukraine but also that, seriously guys, he has thousands of nuclear weapons under his control. I'm increasingly skeptical of the Russian ability to take multiple major cities, so I'm having a bullish moment on Ukraine. Grouchio posted:Wait is Serbia joining the war in Ukraine on Russia's side? Maybe something to do with Bosnia? That's been in a low level crisis this past year. They're also hypothetically looking to pre-empt a popular revolution.
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Grouchio posted:Wait is Serbia joining the war in Ukraine on Russia's side? No, I think they're just calling up the reserves to use as riot cops, basically.
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Paladinus posted:The guy filming it says people are taking watches, gold and jewellery. At the end he approaches a stall with electronics being looted, jokingly asking if they sell SIM cards with the basic plan. Please....someone think of the property Vincent Van Goatse posted:I was thinking more Tolstoy at the end of his life when he hated everything, but he was also a devout Christian and hating the idea of having a purpose in life doesn't seem particularly Christian. It's Tolstoy. Not only is Zelensky an actor, but this statement reads like something you'd find in the Seagull.
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Historically the strongest indicator for when Europe is about to have a Bad Time has been an uptick in serbian nationalism so it feels fitting this gets thrown into the mix.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:No, I think they're just calling up the reserves to use as riot cops, basically. Very likely. It's calling up "civil protection" units until March 31st, from what the auto-translate says. https://www.mod.gov.rs/lat/17638/informacija-o-pozivanju-lica-iz-rezervnog-sastava-17638
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Morrow posted:I'm increasingly skeptical of the Russian ability to take multiple major cities, so I'm having a bullish moment on Ukraine. That’s fine of course, but as everyone is saying, temper your expectations. They’ve taken Kherson and seem very likely to take Mariupol quite soon.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:No, I think they're just calling up the reserves to use as riot cops, basically. Folks do you think the world's reaction to last night's power plant (that and sanctions) would dampen Putin's thoughts of a chemical attack on Ukraine? (Based on Bellingcat's report)
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No new tanks, armored cars, and trucks incoming.
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Wait, their aerospace industry is related to Lada? Ah, that explains those jets just sitting there, as Ladas are wont to do.
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Young Freud posted:No new tanks, armored cars, and trucks incoming. The Ukrainian armored divisions are going to be pissed.
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Morrow posted:He is fussing about that and foreign fighters, the issue is he has no soft power left and all his hard power is being blown up by javelins. There was a sizeable (2k+ people) pro-Russia protest today in Serbia. So there's still some soft power, it's just it's in places with no real influence on the situation. E: and I guess this is also Russia's soft power https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo7tWhre9hs Paladinus fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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Young Freud posted:No new tanks, armored cars, and trucks incoming. There already were no new tanks, since previous sanctions hosed then out of optics systems components. Otherwise at least a third or this museum invasion force would’ve been Armata-based armour.
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Caros posted:The Ukrainian armored divisions are going to be pissed. 
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1499894955996856327?s=20&t=w4pwYgl2dNQEsqLoVIpKDA Russia facing napoleonic issues by invading itself (according to the deluded worldview of its autocratic leader) is truly a sight to behold
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smug n stuff posted:That’s fine of course, but as everyone is saying, temper your expectations. They’ve taken Kherson and seem very likely to take Mariupol quite soon. They threw a unbelievable amount of manpower to take Kherson and lost a lot of blood and treasure to do so and that was probably the most advantageous position for them to take outside of Kharkiv which also hasn't been going well for them. If you have to exhaust 15% of your forces in theater to take one position things aren't going well for you since you can't further your advance because you don't have the forces to hold the territory you have taken. The entire operation has been a disaster on the Russian side since the start and now they are pulling material and manpower from the rest of the country as it is about to fall into chaos due to sanctions? Things are about to get real, real spicy in Russia.
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Paladinus posted:There was a sizeable (2k+ people) pro-Russia protest today in Serbia. So there's still some soft power, it's just it's in places with no real influence on the situation. What is Serbia doing? I know they’re pro Russia because the trauma of the nato bombings drives a need for revenge or some kind of empowerment through Russia. But the government has made some decisions that seem to indicate another direction. The new Serbian service rifle is chambered for NATO rounds so it implies they’re aligning more to the west? Or just using their standards?
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Intel has also announced not to sell to Russian customers as well. e: Also AMD: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-amd-nvidia-tsmc-russia-stop-chip-sales-ukraine-sanction Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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smug n stuff posted:What do you think is an acceptable nuclear war probability threshold for taking an action? If there's only a 5% likelihood that NATO shooting down a russian plane results in nuclear war, is it worth it? Do you think a 5% probability is reasonable? Let me put it this way... I think if there's a 5% chance Putin would start a nuclear war if NATO demands Russians withdraw and starts firing on them if they don't, there's probably a 2-3% chance he'll start a nuclear war if Ukraine starts winning without NATO intervening (possibly using the arms shipments and volunteers as what passes for an "excuse" since he already threatened to do so). They both result in the same situation for Russia. That doesn't mean I support sabotaging Ukraine's defensive efforts or ceasing to provide support/outlawing volunteers just because Russia threatened nuclear war if we don't. (and no, I would personally guess the chance of Russia using nukes with or without active NATO intervention at <1%, but I'm just a guy that follows news on the internet) Bremen fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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Djarum posted:If you have to exhaust 15% of your forces in theater to take one position things aren't going well for you since you can't further your advance because you don't have the forces to hold the territory you have taken. It is almost certain that these casualty numbers are not accurate. And, like, they are furthering their advance! You guys all saw the nuclear plant! That is further into Ukraine than they were before!
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Wanna see a dead body? (the body is Russian industry) Samsung suspending shipments to Russia (unsurprising but still not good) https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1499920890578014216?s=20&t=LFYPk1xwIC8ES0ZraeOCRQ Bosch is stopping production at their St Petersburg plant on March 16th due to lack of components https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499853002898817029?s=20&t=ES-kgY0rEBNezaD39PxozA The war is playing havoc all over the automotive industry, with a ton of companies having production in one or both countries. The below article has a really thorough overview. https://www.automotivelogistics.media/trade-and-customs/ukraine-invasion-causes-widespread-supply-chain-disruption/42788.article I work in the auto supplier industry myself and we're getting letters from all our customers asking us to outline how exposed our supply chain is to the war, so it's a widespread concern. As for LNG - dockers in Kent refused to even unload Russian-sourced LNG and two ships had to be diverted https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1499836845806477321?s=20&t=S-yG9v4nIn9EdzmHgTleFw Article [url = https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england...82-63BE4744363C]link[/url]
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