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Why the hell would you radically rearrange Time's Scar of all things, that's maybe the most iconic piece of music in the entire game. Heath posted:They're not bad on their own. But they feel like SE handed the songs to individual artists and said here, reinterpret this song, so rather than being the cohesive vision of a soundtrack that the original is, we have several disparate styles that sound kind of familiar but don't mesh together in the way the original's Celtic-Caribbean fusion does. Yeah if this was like a "here are some fun arrangements of the tracks" album release or something it'd be one thing, but as the only option for the remaster it makes no sense at all.
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Ainsley McTree posted:[grunt] I like when the computer asks you a question, Neon grunts and nods and that's apparently picked up on by the computer.
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Mar 31, 2022 15:27
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Cleretic hates Jack as much as Jack hates Chaos so I think we all know the real reason for their obsession. 
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Mar 31, 2022 15:28
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Blockhouse posted:Mainline Final Fantasy is likely never going to be turn based again.  I don't like it as a direction for the series but I know it's not gonna change and at least Square Enix will sometimes put out throwback turn-based games in that kinda vein so that's definitely better than nothing.
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Mar 31, 2022 15:33
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Evil Fluffy posted:Cleretic hates Jack as much as Jack hates Chaos so I think we all know the real reason for their obsession. Cleretic is Chaos? Incidentally, I enjoy how Sophia is your stereotypical creepy, vampy JRPG villainess... except for the minor detail that she's not remotely evil, she's just your mom-friend. Just look at how she reacts when you drink too many potions in a row.
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Mar 31, 2022 16:03
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Evil Fluffy posted:Cleretic hates Jack as much as Jack hates Chaos so I think we all know the real reason for their obsession. No, I have other things going on with my life and am just disappointed Jack exists as a largely unrelated part of it. Jack basically has nothing else on his agenda but Chaos.
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Mar 31, 2022 16:08
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Darth Walrus posted:Cleretic is Chaos? Yeah it is funny how she looks prime to betray you but nah she is just a cool mom.
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Mar 31, 2022 16:09
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No admiration for a man with focus and dedication. Typical!
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Mar 31, 2022 16:10
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Characters in media don't develop and have arcs right? What you see if what you get right? Jack only wants to kill Chaos for no reason other than epic memes man right? There's no story to the game and no motivation or twist or anything am I right?
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Mar 31, 2022 16:13
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Calaveron posted:Characters in media don't develop and have arcs right? What you see if what you get right? Jack only wants to kill Chaos for no reason other than epic memes man right? There's no story to the game and no motivation or twist or anything am I right? Personally I only engage with the first 5 minutes of every piece of media and confidently judge it entirely on those merits. Idk why they named the movie Robocop, looks like a normal guy to me. 2/10, like fave and subscribe to cinemasins
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Mar 31, 2022 16:17
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Jack could transform into a timeless existential icon transcending media to the status of timeless art and it wouldn't matter. "I'm going to kill chaos" is camp as gently caress and some people are allergic to camp and that's ok.
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Mar 31, 2022 16:18
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pretty soft girl posted:Personally I only engage with the first 5 minutes of every piece of media and confidently judge it entirely on those merits. Idk why they named the movie Robocop, looks like a normal guy to me. 2/10, like fave and subscribe to cinemasins To be fair the first five minutes of the game sold me on Jack 
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Mar 31, 2022 16:19
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To be fair to the Jack-haters, SoP is absolutely taking a risk with the way it opens, and you are always going to lose people who are turned off by what a story appears to be early on. That's just how it goes. It's also worth mentioning that the game does have a real story, with actual character development and twists and interesting things going on. Maybe knowing that is enough for someone to want to give it a real go, maybe it isn't, but 
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Mar 31, 2022 16:24
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I don't just like camp, I wear a hockey mask and stalk highschoolers there year after year.
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It sounds more like that the delivery needs work, if the story is better later on. It's much easier to just attribute it to incompetence rather than maliciousness though.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah it is funny how she looks prime to betray you but nah she is just a cool mom. I mean, she never actually stops being kind of spooky, but it soon becomes clear that that's just how she is and it's no big deal.
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Cleretic posted:No, I have other things going on with my life and am just disappointed Jack exists as a largely unrelated part of it. Jack basically has nothing else on his agenda but Chaos. That's objectively not true but okay
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GreenBuckanneer posted:It sounds more like that the delivery needs work, if the story is better later on. It's quite competent, the problem is one of taste
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Mar 31, 2022 16:28
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Complaining about Stranger of Paradise is impossible. Any points you make can be retorted by someone saying "bullshit *plays limp bizkit and walks away*" and there's no coming back from that.
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Mar 31, 2022 16:30
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GreenBuckanneer posted:It sounds more like that the delivery needs work, if the story is better later on. I mean it's done completely intentionally. That the beginning doesn't reveal what the story is really about isn't a mistake, it's a choice. To keep it vague, the reason Jack and friends are dressed like they are and behave like they do is a setup for a twist later. If it didn't work for you, yeah, that's fair, but that doesn't mean there's any incompetence or malice.
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Harrow posted:To be fair to the Jack-haters, SoP is absolutely taking a risk with the way it opens, and you are always going to lose people who are turned off by what a story appears to be early on. That's just how it goes. Tbh I can't imagine looking at a story where it's repeatedly and explicitly explained early on that the protagonist has forgotten who he is and what his motivations are, and confidently concluding he wont discover both of those things and his initial characterization is going to remain steady and unchanging for the entirety of a 15-30 hour game Sure if his initial characterization is that off-putting I wouldn't blame someone for not wanting to engage with it, that was my initial response until this thread got me on the hype train, but it's baffling to me that someone would speak with such confident authority on something when they didn't play it
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Love the cutscene where Jack and Sarah listen to an MP3 player together. This is a real scene in the game
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Mar 31, 2022 16:31
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pretty soft girl posted:Tbh I can't imagine looking at a story where it's repeatedly and explicitly explained early on that the protagonist has forgotten who he is and what his motivations are, and confidently concluding he wont discover both of those things and his initial characterization is going to remain steady and unchanging for the entirety of a 15-30 hour game It only makes sense if you see Jack and the fact that it's an action RPG and conclude that the game is for those dumb meathead jocks who normally skip cutscenes and don't appreciate nuanced characters It's like, if you continue to hold this position in the face of an entire thread of people telling you that, no, your initial impression is unfounded, it really just comes down to your own bias, sorry
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pretty soft girl posted:it's baffling to me that someone would speak with such confident authority on something when they didn't play it New to the internet, huh
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Rosalie_A posted:New to the internet, huh Somehow 30 years of participating in this hellscape still hasn't clued me into how things work around here
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Alxprit posted:Complaining about Stranger of Paradise is impossible. Any points you make can be retorted by someone saying "bullshit *plays limp bizkit and walks away*" and there's no coming back from that. That retort itself sets up a trap too, where if you reject it you just get more of its ilk, but if you play along with it as if it's... you know, a joke, then you get ridiculed for not knowing better despite the fact it's at this point impossible not to. I get that Jack's more than 'hate Chaos'. I don't care, he's still not an interesting character and he still isn't in a game I like. But if you're gonna pull the 'Cleretic hates Jack like Jack hates Chaos' then it's ridiculous to attack me for playing on the same level.
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Cleretic posted:That retort itself sets up a trap too, where if you reject it you just get more of its ilk, but if you play along with it as if it's... you know, a joke, then you get ridiculed for not knowing better despite the fact it's at this point impossible not to. Shut the gently caress uuuuuuuuuup
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Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin is a very good game that I enjoy.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Shut the gently caress uuuuuuuuuup *walks away blasting Mudvayne*
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Heath posted:It only makes sense if you see Jack and the fact that it's an action RPG and conclude that the game is for those dumb meathead jocks who normally skip cutscenes and don't appreciate nuanced characters https://youtu.be/QAjZj8XMPz0 This seems to disagree with you lol Jack clearly doesn't like monologuing, which the consistency is cool, but also, I want the monologuing. I live for that poo poo in stories.
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best thing about stranger of paradise is they turned astos, a little speedbump on the road to Lich, into an actual characterGreenBuckanneer posted:https://youtu.be/QAjZj8XMPz0 it's okay if the game isn't for you
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HD DAD posted:Everything should have XII’s battle system This is a pretty funny way to spell X-2, but I guess it does have X and the roman numeral for 2 in it
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Just tell me about the goddang crystals, that's all I wanna know
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Speaking of Stranger of Paradise, I'm curious what people's favorite job setups are, since I haven't really been posting here about it at all.GreenBuckanneer posted:https://youtu.be/QAjZj8XMPz0 Well yeah, he's had his memories and personality erased and replaced with a single-minded purpose for nefarious reasons, so of course he's like that.
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I'll accept FFX or FFXV combat. Link striking with Ragnarok was amazingly broken and I love bending a game over my knee to trivialize it
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Vitamean posted:
SOP asks the important questions, like "what if Cecil and his party didn't just ineffectually stand there half the time while the bad guy did their bad guy things" I just replayed 4 before getting into SOP and SOP has been a breath of fresh air really
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People actually like 12's battle system? What battle system is even there to like? If you make your main a melee character enjoy slow rear end auto attacking for the entire 50 hours. At least you'll get a lot of naps in!
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Vitamean posted:best thing about stranger of paradise is they turned astos, a little speedbump on the road to Lich, into an actual character Astos rules yeah. His whole "who am i?" scene in the last stretch was really well done, I like how it's set up so that the player is just as confused as Jack until you piece it together later and realize what a dick you must have sounded like
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If we're talking favorite combat systems I would be very happy to have more FFs that iterate on X's turn-based combat, X-2's version of ATB, or VII Remake's action combat. Those are my three favorite battle systems in the series. I'm curious to see how XVI actually plays once they can show some more complete gameplay from it.
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