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Tetraptous posted:Yeah, turbines are pretty forgiving. Aircraft often use special fuel formulations for safety more than anything. The US Army runs everything on JP-8 to simplify logistics, but other operators like Australia just run on regular diesel because that’s what their other ground vehicles use. I’m sure there are some differences in overhaul cycles and whatnot, but the kind of fuel would not be Ukraine’s problem. The amount of fuel might be! Another barrier is the difference between organising a delivery of kit you'd never use yourself and hanging onto the things you might desperately need yourself if things expand.
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Risky Bisquick posted:I remember hearing about the poisoned baked goods, but spiking the alcohol seems new. Anyways that is a lot of troops to be out of combat at once Where is this news from?
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I don't object to them using any means like poisoning to defend themselves but man I do really worry about reprisal attacks. (Which, obviously, have already been happening)
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Morningwoodpecker posted:Another barrier is the difference between organising a delivery of kit you'd never use yourself and hanging onto the things you might desperately need yourself if things expand.
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Nessus posted:I do not think rusted-out IFVs are going to make a difference to the defense of Germany from the Russian army. There are two large countries between Germany and Russia, one of which is currently, it would seem, winning against Russia's actual army, and killing a lot of them. Yes, I would say probably nobody other than Ukraine has a lot to fear for the next few months from the Russian army. I mean the real reason the Germans are holding onto those IFVs as they are is probably because they are inoperable and rusted out hulks for lack of use and maintenance and they are too ashamed to let others know this.
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fnox posted:https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1510608437994049544 What differentiates Russian Nazis from regular Russian soldiers? Are they raping, murdering and looting in a more evil way? Nessus posted:I do not think rusted-out IFVs are going to make a difference to the defense of Germany from the Russian army. There are two large countries between Germany and Russia, one of which is currently, it would seem, winning against Russia's actual army, and killing a lot of them. Yes, I would say probably nobody other than Ukraine has a lot to fear for the next few months from the Russian army. Germany is not giving away stuff the Bundeswehr actually needs because then they would have to replace those and that might mean that some goodie in the coalition treaty can not be paid for, which in turn would make the peace activist wings of the Greens/SPD very mad. Additionally Germany still only allows the export of "defensive weapons", which is a term not well defined but as far as I know rules out tanks for example. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Apr 4, 2022 |
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Nessus posted:I do not think rusted-out IFVs are going to make a difference to the defense of Germany from the Russian army. There are two large countries between Germany and Russia, one of which is currently, it would seem, winning against Russia's actual army, and killing a lot of them. Yes, I would say probably nobody other than Ukraine has a lot to fear for the next few months from the Russian army. Tanks have a far longer shelf life than a few months. We've just lurched 30 years backwards in terms of the situation, anybody who claims to know how this will pan out is lying. So you hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Keeping a stockpile of replacements for yourself is prudent right now.
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fnox posted:https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1510608437994049544 Their watermark is also a white supremacist symbol (not always, but certainly in these circumstances) and also SS.
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GaussianCopula posted:What differentiates Russian Nazis from regular Russian soldiers? More interested in world ice theory
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Morningwoodpecker posted:Tanks have a far longer shelf life than a few months. We've just lurched 30 years backwards in terms of the situation, anybody who claims to know how this will pan out is lying.
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GaussianCopula posted:What differentiates Russian Nazis from regular Russian soldiers? Nothing at all, just reminded me of how those black sun patches Azov uses were used to justify calling the entirety of Ukraine's military Nazis. Adenoid Dan posted:Their watermark is also a white supremacist symbol (not always, but certainly in these circumstances) and also SS. Yup, I believe they're Wagner group adjacent. So these are guys pretty much operating under Putin's beck and call.
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GaussianCopula posted:What differentiates Russian Nazis from regular Russian soldiers? They are probably worse than average, yes
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The wreckage that could possibly be the IL-76. Same as posted before, little to go on. No gore in this tweet, but the thread has plenty.  https://mobile.twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1510879875405684738 It looks like a low bypass jet engine, you can see a wheel rim that kind of fits the ones an IL-76 has (many/small instead of few/big). The airfoil structure in the foreground is far too thin to be a wing, but could perhaps be part of the flap structure. All three pieces would come from the same area.  Definitely not close to confirmation, but I'd say you couldn't rule it out as an IL-76.
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Concerned Citizen posted:ISW has really become too reliant on the UA General Staff for its updates in general. It's not super useful to just recycle their updates in a new format rather than incorporating the ample OSINT stuff out there. I do have to agree that a fair bit of what the UA General Staff has to say seems pretty out there and questionably sourced. I mean, it makes sense that a military organization isn't exactly going to be revealing where they got their intel from but a lot of their claims involve claiming knowledge of the intimate on-goings of Russian decision-making and what goes on behind Russian lines and I'm forced to ask: Can their HUMINT really be THAT good? I'm not ruling it out entirely since between corruption, poor morale, and some skeevy ideological justifications for the war I can see there being Russians willing to talk to Ukrainian agents about what's going on but Occam's Razor does suggest that sometimes they're just saying more than they can really support, albeit for perfectly understandable reasons.
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ShadowHawk posted:I don't really understand this. Who do they have to even hypothetically use the tanks against if not Russia? And even then if they were at literal war with Russia right now, wouldn't sending those tanks to the frontline in Ukraine be the best place for them anyway? The world today is vastly different to the world six months ago. The next six months could see similar or larger changes.
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Morningwoodpecker posted:The world today is vastly different to the world six months ago. The next six months could see similar or larger changes. There just isn't any other country posing a credible threat in the vicinity of Europe other than Russia. Unless China is going to invade Europe with its navy? A threat can't just materialize overnight, especially one requiring tanks. It's true that world is changing, but that doesn't mean the scope and pace of change isn't limited by some parameters - we wouldn't be in a proxy war with Russia hadn't Russia spent two decades arming itself and creating a justification for it, for instance.
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Tomn posted:I do have to agree that a fair bit of what the UA General Staff has to say seems pretty out there and questionably sourced. I'm sure there's propaganda and wishful thinking but the Russian army does to an extent communicate over cell phones and un-encrypted radios which should provide a lot more intel than one would normally expect.
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steinrokkan posted:There just isn't any other country posing a credible threat in the vicinity of Europe other than Russia. Unless China is going to invade Europe with its navy? A threat can't just materialize overnight, especially one requiring tanks. It's true that world is changing, but that doesn't mean the scope and pace of change isn't limited by some parameters - we wouldn't be in a proxy war with Russia hadn't Russia spent two decades arming itself and creating a justification for it, for instance. Also, ensuring that russia loses this is a good way to discourage anyone from trying to pull any poo poo in the near future. If Europe can't defend its neighbor that sends a very bad message about its abilities and will.
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steinrokkan posted:There just isn't any other country posing a credible threat in the vicinity of Europe other than Russia. Unless China is going to invade Europe with its navy? A threat can't just materialize overnight, especially one requiring tanks. It's true that world is changing, but that doesn't mean the scope and pace of change isn't limited by some parameters - we wouldn't be in a proxy war with Russia hadn't Russia spent two decades arming itself and creating a justification for it, for instance. China could really make us hurt if it wanted to however via economic means.
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His Divine Shadow posted:China could really make us hurt if it wanted to however via economic means. As far as I'm aware, China is very much dependent on trade with the US.
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Randarkman posted:As far as I'm aware, China is very much dependent on trade with the US.
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Randarkman posted:As far as I'm aware, China is very much dependent on trade with the US. It goes both ways, sure they couldn't hurt us without hurting themselves, but it's not like it cannot happen.
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Randarkman posted:As far as I'm aware, China is very much dependent on trade with the US. I think I've already heard this somewhere like a month ago
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mobby_6kl posted:I think I've already heard this somewhere like a month ago And it's still true. The Russian economy is turbofucked, the issue is just that a turbofucked economy does not disable the military from day 1 - even more so for countries that are not dependent on oil/energy imports.
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GaussianCopula posted:And it's still true. The Russian economy is turbofucked, the issue is just that a turbofucked economy does not disable the military from day 1 - even more so for countries that are not dependent on oil/energy imports. But actually reading those posts again that's not really applicable to China since they won't invade continental EU so it would be purely a sanctions showdown.
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Insane stuff here https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1510908231077531648 https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1510908238677614598 https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1510908245568856067
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Charlz Guybon posted:Insane stuff here  I'm starting to think that maybe the people rooting for the invaders aren't going to end up on the right side of history. Is that for domestic consumption? Can someone familiar with the Russian media landscape tell if this is preparing the Russian population for the warcrime allegations or some poo poo like that?
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Ukrainians have been treated like subhumans by Ryssians for a long time. This is just saying the silent part out loud.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Insane stuff here Generalplan West coming along nicely
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https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1510699728102592512?s=20&t=jYf2VCMeCUgkmYJ6dxKHlA Retweeted by "I swear I'm not a Russian government mouthpiece" Caleb T. Maupin.
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Pizdec posted:Zelenskyy? Last weeks of the campaign the government was pushing "Ukrainians are attacking US now" "Zelensky is attacking US" "The opposition is in league with Ukraine" so it's not that big of a change in rhetoric. Ashenai posted:I'm Hungarian, I can confirm it. Orbán said it in his victory speech. All over Hungarian news. Direkt kerültem a beszédet. Szégyen. 
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fnox posted:https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1510608437994049544 It's a new logo. They still have their old one on their VK page. 
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Ashenai posted:I'm Hungarian, I can confirm it. Orbán said it in his victory speech. All over Hungarian news. Obviously this sucks but it also sounds basically identical to the poo poo coming out of the last US president's mouth, every country in the world has a pretty big element of this in its voter base
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mobby_6kl posted:Also, ensuring that russia loses this is a good way to discourage anyone from trying to pull any poo poo in the near future. If Europe can't defend its neighbor that sends a very bad message about its abilities and will. Russia has had their arses handed to them in the north around Kyiv (not so much in the south/east). They've been hit with massive sanctions. Poland have just announced their willingness to host nukes. The EU is rearming. Russia feel far more insecure than they did before. That's fantastic if they back off, but it's an if.
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freebooter posted:Obviously this sucks but it also sounds basically identical to the poo poo coming out of the last US president's mouth, every country in the world has a pretty big element of this in its voter base From a Hungarian youtuber: quote:Viktor Orban won the elections in Hungary. Not only that, but with a two-thirds majority. That is of course rather concerning.
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