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mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

That Italian Guy posted:

Dril's accounting tweet, but it's the Russian's MoD account and the overbudget is on yachts.

E: sniped like a Russian general.


Took me way too long to make this version

Edit: of course the loving cursor got in the way, fixed

mmkay fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Apr 6, 2022

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GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

The backstory behind Gazprom Germania takeover by the German state is pretty amazing. Apparently Russia transferred this multi billion € company to some random DJ/former car dealer in Moscow who immediately tried to dissolve it. The plan was to get rid of the cheap hard currency gas delivery contracts that Gazprom has with many German utility companies. The contracts would have disappear with the legal entity.

Germany could take control of the company very easily because the idiots behind this made some formal/legal mistakes in the process(maybe they didn't want to pay for a good lawyer team on this?). Incredibly shady organized crime poo poo, but with a multi billion $ company.

Auto translation

https://www-spiegel-de.translate.go...&_x_tr_pto=wapp

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Looks like Europe has gone ahead and uniformly expelled hundreds of Russian diplomats.

Well it's probably time for another round of sanctions and more help to the ukrainians.

Not Hungary. We just called in the Ukrainian ambassador because of Zelensky talking bad about Hungary.
Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs said "it is time for the Ukrainian leaders to stop insulting Hungary and to take note of the will of the Hungarian people :smug:"

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

GABA ghoul posted:

The backstory behind Gazprom Germania takeover by the German state is pretty amazing. Apparently Russia transferred this multi billion € company to some random DJ/former car dealer in Moscow who immediately tried to dissolve it. The plan was to get rid of the cheap hard currency gas delivery contracts that Gazprom has with many German utility companies. The contracts would have disappear with the legal entity.

Germany could take control of the company very easily because the idiots behind this made some formal/legal mistakes in the process(maybe they didn't want to pay for a good lawyer team on this?). Incredibly shady organized crime poo poo, but with a multi billion $ company.

Auto translation

https://www-spiegel-de.translate.go...&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Those long-term contracts mentioned in the article are also one of the reasons the headline numbers for money Germany pays for Russian gas are currently highly inaccurate, as they often assume that the gas is imported at current spot market value.

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

Not Hungary. We just called in the Ukrainian ambassador because of Zelensky talking bad about Hungary.
Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs said "it is time for the Ukrainian leaders to stop insulting Hungary and to take note of the will of the Hungarian people :smug:"

It's interesting from a historical perspective that while Hungary had the uprising against the USSR in 1956 and was the first country to open the Iron Curtain, it's completely reversed course after getting democratic governments.

This also applies to Poland to some degree.

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:

It's interesting from a historical perspective that while Hungary had the uprising against the USSR in 1956 and was the first country to open the Iron Curtain, it's completely reversed course after getting democratic governments.

This also applies to Poland to some degree.

You will find it amusing then that the campaign slogan of Orban in this election was "Hungary goes forward, not backwards!"

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Someone asked a little while ago if we had any actual evidence about the rumours of Russian troops excavating trenches in the highly radioactive Chernobyl forests:

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1511604470286675974

(video is flagged as sensitive but it's literally just a bunch of trenches dug in line of sight of the power plant)

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:

It's interesting from a historical perspective that while Hungary had the uprising against the USSR in 1956 and was the first country to open the Iron Curtain, it's completely reversed course after getting democratic governments.

This also applies to Poland to some degree.

There are signs pointing to regime change in Poland next year, hopefully. PiS was in deep poo poo before the war, they kinda benefited from it politically just like the Tories but they will have to go back to it again someday. They also forced a really unpopular tax reform early this year.

We are also really unified when it comes to Ukraine. The only party that follows the RU line (the standard 'just asking questions' poo poo) is a bunch of far-right shitheads who call themselves The Confederacy (yeah, I know) but they're getting decimated in the polls right now (~5,5% vote).

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

5,5 is still high for the party of official mouthpieces of Ru MFA

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

Anne Frank Funk posted:

5,5 is still high for the party of official mouthpieces of Ru MFA

It is and it's shameful. The only good thing about it is that you can't get into the Polish parliament unless you get 5% of votes.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




His Divine Shadow posted:

Krigsknugen himself

Post/username combo :discourse:

gay picnic defence posted:

I guess it depends on where Ukraine fits into their equation. Do they view Ukraine as the rogue province that illegally broke away from the USSR, or are Russia’s puppet republics the breakaway provinces?

The latter and Crimea, which they do not recognise as Russian.

fatherboxx posted:

In a bit of personal good news after more than a month of silence I have learnt that my aunt and grandmother in Mariupol are alive thanks to a volunteer who got my number from them while distributing supplies. They are either in the basement of their apartment complex or somewhere close. Bad news is that grandmother broke her leg so an evacuation for now is out of question (moreso with heavy fighting only 1km away). Our best option would be evacuation to Novoazovsk or Donetsk when the firing stops so our family in Volgograd (south of Russia, about 10-12 hr ride to the border) can get them out. Of course with poo poo like filtration camps and the general disregard for civilian population from Russia I dont expect it to be easy.

:unsmith: Broken leg is a dangerous problem for an old person, so I hope she is receiving treatment, or will receive it very soon. Those evacuation options sound extremely poo poo though, but I doubt they can choose to get evacuated into Rostov directly, as far as eastwards evacuation goes.

mmkay posted:

Took me way too long to make this version

Edit: of course the loving cursor got in the way, fixed


:discourse:

I’m afraid I cannot fashion an image into the thread title.

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Apr 6, 2022

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Chalks posted:

Someone asked a little while ago if we had any actual evidence about the rumours of Russian troops excavating trenches in the highly radioactive Chernobyl forests:

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1511604470286675974

(video is flagged as sensitive but it's literally just a bunch of trenches dug in line of sight of the power plant)

God, what Nth Level absolute loving morons. I'm pretty sure even six year olds know that like rule #1 about visiting Chernobyl, aside from "don't visit Chernobyl" is "don't disturb the soil, plants, or water at Chernobyl". I was in goddamn primary school and I knew even back then that Chernobyl was easy shorthand for "something bad happened there and you are gonna get hosed up super badly if you go there too."

Holy poo poo.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Chalks posted:

Someone asked a little while ago if we had any actual evidence about the rumours of Russian troops excavating trenches in the highly radioactive Chernobyl forests:

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1511604470286675974

(video is flagged as sensitive but it's literally just a bunch of trenches dug in line of sight of the power plant)

I thought for sure it was exaggerated for propaganda purposes but someone in the someone in the GBS thread geolocated it to here which seems to check out.



The green marker is, in fact, red forest and one of the spiciest areas. Not instantly dangerous but god knows what you can dig up there.

Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019

MikeC posted:

Some people are reporting the opposite and saying a large number of vehicles moving into Kherson during the past day. Maybe loading up equipment for the evac? I remain as skeptical as I was last week that the Russians will try to hold Kherson long-term. The pieces just don't fit.

There's many unknowns in terms of force disposition, state, supply and morale so I don't think anyone here can really predict what people on the ground will chose to do.

That said Kherson is a southern bridgehead on the west side of the Dniepr. Holding it is useful since it complicates the defense of Ukraine now and in any future conflict. If Russia abandons it the Ukrainian army can chose to either push in the south or redeploy their forces from the south to Donbas. Russia holding it forces the Ukrainian army to either attack it which will be costly if the Russian forces stand and fight or to bottle it up with large enough forces to prevent breakouts.

Holding both banks of the Dniepr means you can control and block traffic on it which is obviously important to Ukraine. Apart from that there is the propaganda value. Russia has been doing a lot of reporting from Kherson as it's a larger town and relatively undamaged. Abandoning it means Russia really only holds villages, small towns and the bombed out husk of Mariupol after 5 weeks of war. I think it's a difficult choice to make.

Regardless of Russian strategic aims it makes most sense to try and hold Kherson and ideally keep it or if need be give it back for concessions in negotiations. Ukraine will be in a better position with control of Kherson in this war, future wars, negotiations and peacetime and that makes it important to Russia.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

bad_fmr posted:

Oh no. Historically, seeing Swedish kings doing military stuff has usually meant a lot of dead Finns. :ohdear:

It's time to draft you into the hakkapeliitat

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


His Divine Shadow posted:

It's time to draft you into the hakkapeliitat

We could have a new battle of Poltava and everything.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/jennifermerode/status/1511602836345397249

https://twitter.com/jennifermerode/status/1511607375681183748

https://twitter.com/ivantkachev1/status/1511640331686715395

https://twitter.com/tderyugina/status/1511416532504653831

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1511646924444770313

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

Mr. Apollo posted:

:nms: just to be safe

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1511411340975513603

Here's a photo of a Russian tank turret that was hit with a top attack anti-tank missile and buried itself in the pavement. What I thought was interesting is that a few of the ERA panel are missing their "cover" or have it peeled back and they seem to be empty inside. Does that mean the ERA panel detonated? I would have though there would be scorch marks or the panels themselves (and adjacent ones) would be damaged, or did they not have any explosive inside of them?

ERA panels have cover plates it just looks like the plates been blown off some of them and the inside or all of it is missing from others. Probably due to the tanks ammo internally exploding blowing out the whole of the top of the turret and some of the bits attached. You can see the damaged turret edges are bent outwards where the middle is missing so the explosive force came from within.

ERA that's done it's job just has a hole in it which is smaller/shallower than if it doesn't have ERA. The explosive layer is very thin so you don't get big exploded visuals it just disrupts whatever is incoming spoiling penetration.

Here's a research article with pictures of shaped charges v various configurations or amour in paragraph 5.2.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/sv/2019/6093621/?msclkid=9b9bda45b58f11ec8c92090319eee3e9

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

PeterCat posted:

The war knuckle?

Carl Gustaf is famously dyslexic, so there's a sort of Swedish injoke calling him "knugen" instead of "kungen".

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

I like to think he died of a broken heart, his dreams of reconquest and empire destroyed

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Machine translation:
The Russian ambassador to Budapest is satisfied with Viktor Orbán

He praised the Hungarian government's efforts to preserve Russian-Hungarian relations, according to Russia's ambassador to Budapest. According to Yevgeny Stanislavov, in the situation around Ukraine, the government of Viktor Orbán withstood the pressure in Brussels and Washington. The diplomat gave an interview to the Ria Novostyi state news agency , according to which the positions of the Kremlin and the Hungarian government are very similar, not only regarding the importance of maintaining cooperation, but also about the fact that Ukraine and the opposition wanted to intervene in the Hungarian elections.

According to the diplomat, Viktor Orban's meeting with Moscow's Vladimir Putin on February 1 identified the most important areas of cooperation between the two countries, and the expansion of energy, including the Paks nuclear power plant, will play a key role in this.

“We hope that soon, everything, the necessary permit at the current stage, will be available,” he referred to the National Atomic Energy Authority, which recently did not grant the necessary permit to start the work. He emphasized that the project will be implemented with preferential Russian loans, create jobs, contribute to infrastructural developments, give impetus to Hungarian companies participating in the implementation, and make energy production more sustainable, in which nuclear energy currently receives 52 percent.

He assessed that the Hungarian government had repeatedly indicated its opposition to extending sanctions against Russia to imports of natural gas and oil.

"The Hungarian government has managed to withstand the undisguised pressure from Washington, Brussels and a number of European capitals to force Hungary to join the EU sanctions support camp," Stanislavov said, adding that several members of the V4 attended.

Stanislav called the joint resolution a "flock instinct" in the EU.

It was forgiving that Hungary was eventually “forced” to support several EU sanctions, but on that basis it could not evade Russia's demand to pay in rubles for gas imports. However, similar to Péter Szijjártó's statement on Wednesday, he said that Gazprom and MVM are discussing the exact implementation. You can read our analysis on the transition to ruble accounting here .

Regarding the statements made by the Hungarian government regarding Ukraine:

According to this, Ukraine wanted to intervene in the elections in cooperation with the Hungarian opposition.

He mentioned in spectacular floral language how what is happening in Ukraine may affect Russian communities in Hungary. He believes that, even if there are isolated examples of anti-Russian sentiment,
“It is more correct to describe the situation as having strong sympathy on the part of Hungarians for those who decided to leave Ukraine via Hungary. That number reached 500,000. It is a natural human feeling that the Ukrainian press propagandists try to use to incite anti-Russian sentiment, but fortunately, I can say that they have had little success in Hungarian society. ”

https://telex.hu/belfold/2022/04/06/a-budapesti-orosz-nagykovet-elegedett-orban-viktorral

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Why are there piles of unexploded dumb bombs there?
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1511637905969754114

https://twitter.com/julianroepcke/status/1511631375836852224

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1511632348969852928

https://twitter.com/maximeristavi/status/1511623958558355464

Select EU leaders will hopefully start feeling articles like this coming out of outlets like Bloomberg.
https://twitter.com/javierblas/status/1511617408288579588

A rare tweet from our defence minister without “juvelery”-tier Engrish.
https://twitter.com/pabriks/status/1511432827631554564

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1511620086167130115

This guy is likely really dead even if Russia retains control there.
https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1511617542284001281

https://twitter.com/nrg8000/status/1511614133476945920

https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1511652838014861316

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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

This is the one that's worrying me right now. The Russians still have a lot of power in the field. If they actually are starting to use it correctly the Ukrainians could be in for a really hard time.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Chalks posted:

Someone asked a little while ago if we had any actual evidence about the rumours of Russian troops excavating trenches in the highly radioactive Chernobyl forests:

https://twitter.com/eskelinen_antti/status/1511604470286675974

(video is flagged as sensitive but it's literally just a bunch of trenches dug in line of sight of the power plant)

The ground there looks burnt too, I wonder if they started a fire to clear a bunch of undergrowth before they started digging.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Paladinus posted:

If nothing else, China is consistent in reiterating that they respect territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine.

Consistent also in describing, for domestic audiences, Ukraine as a cat's paw of a cynical encroaching NATO headed by the US.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Claims from Mariupol that mobile crematoriums have been fielded to hide the extent of carnage.
https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1511659934081028102

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Claims from Mariupol that mobile crematoriums have been fielded to hide the extent of carnage.
https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1511659934081028102

From the number of dead Russians left lying around it was clear those things were not there to clean up their own dudes.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

https://twitter.com/JenniferMerode/status/1511607375681183748?cxt=HHwWiICztce5p_opAAAA

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

This is the one that's worrying me right now. The Russians still have a lot of power in the field. If they actually are starting to use it correctly the Ukrainians could be in for a really hard time.

I sorta suspect they have enough to protect some advances and not others. They are apparently running out of missiles and sticking with dumb bombs for now.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1511672385753255940

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Good, but can we get a strike on 69 vehicles next please? I want to say it.


Also I probably just missed it because it's from a week old tweet that showd up but that fascist ship doesn't seem to be doing great



Or maybe it's just resting.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



MrYenko posted:

The Russian Armed forces: All shock, no awe.

Hours late, but

(CW: War) Ukraine v Russia: shock and awful

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/alexnicest/status/1511677483208294403

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


[/quote]

mobby_6kl posted:

Good, but can we get a strike on 69 vehicles next please? I want to say it.


Also I probably just missed it because it's from a week old tweet that showd up but that fascist ship doesn't seem to be doing great



Or maybe it's just resting.

That’s the “anti-fire counter flooding.” Nothing to see here.

BougieBitch
Oct 2, 2013

Basic as hell

I suppose it doesn't really matter at present, but it seems unwise to advertise that you have nothing in your military stockpiles - might be necessary as a reaction to the general "do more" sentiment though.

I also have to wonder though if this is a bit of a shell game, where the cupboards are empty but they could go to the store whenever (i.e. they don't have any warehoused themselves, but whoever they buy from might have plenty and be on contract to supply on demand).

I guess it likely doesn't matter - this is the first time in living history where European and American weapon manufacturers could get a huge PR boon just for operating their business, and get a bunch of testing and ad copy in the process. They would have to be incredibly stupid not to be diverting all of their production to Ukraine and ramping things up, even without some particular government having a deal signed. They could probably send a shipment to Ukraine pre-emptively and then start a bidding war for which country gets credit for it, TBH

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Select EU leaders will hopefully start feeling articles like this coming out of outlets like Bloomberg.
https://twitter.com/javierblas/status/1511617408288579588

I'd have though that the 'reality' was the rest of the sanctions. I guess we can roll it all back if gas is the only thing that matters.


Everyone agrees that Putin is the problem, but nobody is hiring ninjas to dispose of him. #RhetoricVsReality

FishMcCool fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Apr 6, 2022

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
A bit of minor news, and a pretty decent translation of the last stanza of what's probably the most important poem in Ukrainian:
https://twitter.com/AlexHazanov/status/1511479671048843264

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

FishMcCool posted:

I'd have though that the 'reality' was the rest of the sanctions. I guess we can roll it all back if gas is the only thing that matters.


Everyone agrees that Putin is the problem, but nobody is hiring ninjas to dispose of him. #RhetoricVsReality

It reads like Anglo media has found their next No Fly Zone.

Anyone with a passing knowledge of what an NFZ entails knew it wasn't going to happen, and anyone with a passing knowledge of how gas is moved and used knows it's not going to happen within less than a few years. You can't substitute gas imports like you can oil and coal.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
90% seems like a good hit rate given us not actively tracking the target. The questions are:
We've shipped them all, how close are they to firing them all?
How quickly can they he manufactured? The £20k price suggests they're going to be easier to churn out quickly than a £200k Javelin.

The US is going to ship 800 Stingers and 2,000 Javelins.

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KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013


The Russians have had a real problem this whole war with munitions just not going off. I'm guessing they're putting them all in one place after diffusing them. Still a little pucker-inducing to see a heap like that tho

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