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kim jong-illin
May 2, 2011
New Assassinorum book (Kingmaker) by Robert Rath, the guy who did The Infinite and the Divine) is really good - Vindicare, Callidus, and Vanus hijinks on a feudal Knight world. All the Assassinorum short stories preceding this novel are also worth reading, they're very punchy and fun and the antithesis of Space Marine bolter-porn.

edit: jeez, just totalled up the number of Horus Heresy and WH40K books I've read and logged in the book tracking app I use and it's at least 149 books, including all the short story collections. There's about another 8-12 or so books I've not logged in there yet too.

kim jong-illin fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Apr 7, 2022

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OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

kim jong-illin posted:

New Assassinorum book (Kingmaker) by Robert Rath, the guy who did The Infinite and the Divine) is really good - Vindicare, Callidus, and Vanus hijinks on a feudal Knight world. All the Assassinorum short stories preceding this novel are also worth reading, they're very punchy and fun and the antithesis of Space Marine bolter-porn.

edit: jeez, just totalled up the number of Horus Heresy and WH40K books I've read and logged in the book tracking app I use and it's at least 149 books, including all the short story collections. There's about another 8-12 or so books I've not logged in there yet too.

I'm here for Robert Rath and Mike Brooks. Nate Crowley is also very good, and I think a poster?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsQldXvWQQk

Beakies!

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

kim jong-illin posted:

New Assassinorum book (Kingmaker) by Robert Rath, the guy who did The Infinite and the Divine) is really good - Vindicare, Callidus, and Vanus hijinks on a feudal Knight world. All the Assassinorum short stories preceding this novel are also worth reading, they're very punchy and fun and the antithesis of Space Marine bolter-porn.

edit: jeez, just totalled up the number of Horus Heresy and WH40K books I've read and logged in the book tracking app I use and it's at least 149 books, including all the short story collections. There's about another 8-12 or so books I've not logged in there yet too.

I'm about halfway through and I second this rec. Lots of internal lore about both assassinorum and knight world politics. Written well and more political intrigue then fight scenes.

These new BL authors are just killing it lately.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

While the last episode of Exodite was short, it packs a fair bit into such a short run time.

Holy poo poo Phantom Titans are anime nimble as fuuuuuuuck! They really make Imperial Titans seem static as statues!

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!
I picked up Omnibus 3 and 4 of Gotrek and Felix. I know the switch from King to Long as authors is controversial to some, but I'm still looking forward to the books.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


AndyElusive posted:

While the last episode of Exodite was short, it packs a fair bit into such a short run time.

Holy poo poo Phantom Titans are anime nimble as fuuuuuuuck! They really make Imperial Titans seem static as statues!

Eldar are complete bullshit. It's space elf magic all the way down.

orphean
Apr 27, 2007

beep boop bitches
my monads are fully functional

D-Pad posted:

I'm about halfway through and I second this rec. Lots of internal lore about both assassinorum and knight world politics. Written well and more political intrigue then fight scenes.

These new BL authors are just killing it lately.

Just thirding this. After that Execution Force book I was pretty leery about Assassin books but gave it a shot since I liked Rath's other work. Glad I did - it's really great. I did feel that the three main characters were maybe overly chummy, angsty (in one case in particular), and 'normal'. But its not egregious and makes sense with the clades they come from. Notably, a book like this wouldn't work great with Culexes and Eversor in particular and surprise surprise they aren't involved.

orphean fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 7, 2022

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



AndyElusive posted:

While the last episode of Exodite was short, it packs a fair bit into such a short run time.

Holy poo poo Phantom Titans are anime nimble as fuuuuuuuck! They really make Imperial Titans seem static as statues!

I actually didn’t care for the ending, the very end felt very abrupt and unsatisfying and I didn’t really understand what happened or what it meant, and the voice actress for Lako’ma was awful. Her inflections made her sound like a mediocre text-to-speech device, it was weird and off-putting. Like, my Alexa dots sound more natural than she did.

It didn’t help that she was sharing screen time with Clancy fuckin’ Brown, who rules.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

I picked up Omnibus 3 and 4 of Gotrek and Felix. I know the switch from King to Long as authors is controversial to some, but I'm still looking forward to the books.

i actually like long better :shobon:

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I actually liked the Exodite but I have a couple criticisms:

-Tau voice actors were very stiff and had a flat almost emotionless delivery. It was like an Alexa was reading their lines.
-Animation felt very stiff in a lot of places and made the action sequences feel very floaty and weightless.
-There is really no reason it had to be three ten minute episodes when it would have worked better as a single thirty minute short

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



AnEdgelord posted:


-There is really no reason it had to be three ten minute episodes when it would have worked better as a single thirty minute short

Gotta keep people coming back each week!

I think the other Tau voices were fine, but Lako’ma was bad.

BigShasta
Oct 28, 2010

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

I picked up Omnibus 3 and 4 of Gotrek and Felix. I know the switch from King to Long as authors is controversial to some, but I'm still looking forward to the books.

I enjoyed the books these two collections are made of. The ones that I can still remember liking in particular were Orcslayer (some really wild stuff happening in this one, not sure which author wrote it), Elfslayer, and Shamanslayer (learning how beastmen work was pretty horrifying).

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Ya I agree the VA for Lako’ma isn't outstanding but at the same time the weirdness and flatness of her tone fit and felt alien to me. So I think overall it worked.

But it's funny because as much as I like Clancy Brown's voice I didn't think it 100% suited an Aeldari character. Still cool though.

It's clear they're gunning for a second "season", but can you even call three 15 minute episodes a season?

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I do agree that Clancy Brown isn’t the first person I think of when I think Aeldari, but he’s Clancy Brown so he could be voicing Belle in a Beauty and the Beast remake and I’d give it a pass.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013
Well that servitor factory in Flesh and Steel was something... :stare:

You know a setting is messed up when the horror of servitors is a background thing that's never really been looked at in 30 years apart from a few short stories.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007
BL is releasing the Fabius Bile omnibus on August 30th.

5 months after starting Mortis I finally finished it last week, gonna pick up Warhawk tomorrow.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Dog_Meat posted:

Well that servitor factory in Flesh and Steel was something... :stare:

You know a setting is messed up when the horror of servitors is a background thing that's never really been looked at in 30 years apart from a few short stories.

One of my favourite sequences in a BL book ever

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Improbable Lobster posted:

One of my favourite sequences in a BL book ever

I was morbidly horrified but also disappointed that they didn't take the protagonist back through the rooms where the actual process happens. Not that the scene needed to add pointless gore and horror, and admittedly going down that route would have probably cheapened the effect, but I was in full morbid curiosity mode at that point.

What was the source of that extract someone posted earlier in the thread where someone has a childhood toy that was a lobotomised heretic servitor that was sad to see him leave? Jesus...

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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There's also the Mechanicus Trilogy that's probably no longer canon but has a servitor guy sort of regain his own free will and tell everyone how servitors remain conscious but suffer from "locked in syndrome".

Hope I remember that correctly, it's been a while since I read those.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
space marine poo poo eating is still canon. everything is always canon

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Dog_Meat posted:

I was morbidly horrified but also disappointed that they didn't take the protagonist back through the rooms where the actual process happens. Not that the scene needed to add pointless gore and horror, and admittedly going down that route would have probably cheapened the effect, but I was in full morbid curiosity mode at that point.

What was the source of that extract someone posted earlier in the thread where someone has a childhood toy that was a lobotomised heretic servitor that was sad to see him leave? Jesus...

The horror novella The Bookkeeper's Skull.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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I was just about to post that, as I started listening to it a minute ago. :commissar:

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!

moonmazed posted:

i actually like long better :shobon:

Yeah, I really liked his Blackhearts stuff so I'm thinking I'll like his Gotrek/Felix as well. His Blackhearts stuff is near my favorite Warhammer Fantasy stories, especially since, unlike Witch Hunter or other series, the Blackhearts actually capture all the baddies and have a happy(ish) ending.

BigShasta posted:

I enjoyed the books these two collections are made of. The ones that I can still remember liking in particular were Orcslayer (some really wild stuff happening in this one, not sure which author wrote it), Elfslayer, and Shamanslayer (learning how beastmen work was pretty horrifying).

Long's first book is Orcslayer, glad to hear it'll be interesting.

I actually ended up getting both Omnibuses on the same day, which is surprising since one of them announced they had just shipped (must've been a delayed announcement). Sadly, the omnibus 3 I got is the original edition and missing a few short stories, or maybe those short stories are just not listed in the Table of Contents. Oh well, I'm sure it's of little consequence.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

the panacea posted:

There's also the Mechanicus Trilogy that's probably no longer canon but has a servitor guy sort of regain his own free will and tell everyone how servitors remain conscious but suffer from "locked in syndrome".

Hope I remember that correctly, it's been a while since I read those.

Eh, probably canon enough. My view on 40k canon is that the galaxy is real big. What's true on one planet/system/sector/segmentum isn't necessarily true for the rest of the galaxy

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Solid odds one system just hosed the process somehow and that's how all their servitors are.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Arquinsiel posted:

Solid odds one system just hosed the process somehow and that's how all their servitors are.

Yeah, in Flesh & Steel it's a black market variant of servitor that retains more of itself so it can multitask, but it's an abomination to the Mechanicus. But if there's demand there'll be loopholes and belief workarounds. One of crime boss characters has a throwaway line about there being a rumour that he used to be a servitor.

The combat servitor burning while it's vox reels off a repeated "help me" was a bit grimdark, too.


I think it was the HH book Mechanicum (?) that introduced me to the term "wet-ware" :stare:

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
MWM has a new video reimagining what the Space Marines "should" look like based on all the surgeries and trauma and hormonal changes, and it's pretty interesting

https://youtu.be/Xl6xKGAUsA0

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Improbable Lobster posted:

Eh, probably canon enough. My view on 40k canon is that the galaxy is real big. What's true on one planet/system/sector/segmentum isn't necessarily true for the rest of the galaxy

I think that’s basically the official canon policy - I’ve seen the phrase “everything is canon, not everything is true,” basically playing up the unreliable narrator angle.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Count Thrashula posted:

MWM has a new video reimagining what the Space Marines "should" look like based on all the surgeries and trauma and hormonal changes, and it's pretty interesting

https://youtu.be/Xl6xKGAUsA0

Ahhh, the two nicest men in Warhammer YouTube together (please don't milkshake duck them).

Although it turns out Valrak was working with people with disabilities before getting made redundant so he is probably the actually nicest person in Warhammer YouTube videos.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

The wildest part about the image is that's a 19 year old Space Marine

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

drat so the ultramarines movie was right in portraying space marines as geriatric old men

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Those extra arms are new, those from a rumoured new range?

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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notaspy posted:

Ahhh, the two nicest men in Warhammer YouTube together (please don't milkshake duck them).

Although it turns out Valrak was working with people with disabilities before getting made redundant so he is probably the actually nicest person in Warhammer YouTube videos.

Valrak can also count himself lucky he didnt end up with a disability after falling off is roof.

orphean
Apr 27, 2007

beep boop bitches
my monads are fully functional


I want at least a short story with these bug riders in it.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

the panacea posted:

There's also the Mechanicus Trilogy that's probably no longer canon but has a servitor guy sort of regain his own free will and tell everyone how servitors remain conscious but suffer from "locked in syndrome".

Hope I remember that correctly, it's been a while since I read those.

I remember something similar in a horror anthology where a secret cultist gets found out by a guardsman, kills him and sends him off to be preserved as a servitor for "saving her life." Throughout the short story he acts even more strangely and creepily than a servitor normally does, because he's trying to override his programming to warn others or flat out turn on his master.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Grammarchist posted:

I remember something similar in a horror anthology where a secret cultist gets found out by a guardsman, kills him and sends him off to be preserved as a servitor for "saving her life." Throughout the short story he acts even more strangely and creepily than a servitor normally does, because he's trying to override his programming to warn others or flat out turn on his master.

I love that the setting is so messed up that a glassy eyed, clammy skinned, cyber-corpse robo-butler is only considered creepy when it doesn't follow it's instructions

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
There have been a few characters who comment on how creepy servitors are and the rest always find them funny, like it's a common and harmless thing like arachnophobia. It's a really nice detail of the setting.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Arquinsiel posted:

There have been a few characters who comment on how creepy servitors are and the rest always find them funny, like it's a common and harmless thing like arachnophobia. It's a really nice detail of the setting.

It's one of the satirical elements that I'm really glad is still pretty core to the setting and fiction

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