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Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

BiggerBoat posted:

Stolen from another thread but...well

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1513528049421148167

WTF is it with these guys and "everyone's a pedophile" lately? I guess it's as basic as "everyone hates child molesters, right?" therefore anything we hate must be that thing. Or some stupid logic like that.

I wonder if it’s a conscious attempt to get more of that Q energy that boosted Trump so high in 2016?

Edit: probably just that “pedophile grooming” is a vague enough accusation that you can assert it while hand waving at the idea of evidence or proof.

Murgos fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Apr 11, 2022

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Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

VitalSigns posted:

It's also a slight against males being teachers, a stereotypically 'female' profession in the eyes of the contemporary American right wing.

Why would a man want to do low prestige women's work like teaching kids, must be a predator wanting to gently caress them, why else

As a guy, I can't wait to finish nursing school to be slighted by these mouth-breathing dipshits saying that my career is for "wimmens"

BiggerBoat posted:

Stolen from another thread but...well

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1513528049421148167

WTF is it with these guys and "everyone's a pedophile" lately? I guess it's as basic as "everyone hates child molesters, right?" therefore anything we hate must be that thing. Or some stupid logic like that.

Simple: It's coming out more and more that ALL Republicans are pedophiles. Full stop. So, they're trying to control the narrative and bury their very real pedophilia under a whole slew of calling *everyones* pedophiles to make the term lose all meaning. See: CRT. Use it enough and people stop paying it any mind. Now, when charges come to actual factual Republican pedophiles (but I repeat myself) they can just hand-wave it away because "it's not that serious."

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Also, at the same time, they're chipping away at what pedophilia "really" is. Why, if a forty-year-old man marries a twelve-year-old-girl, under GOD with her parent's blessing, well, that's not pedophilia is it? And they've gotta start dating before that, so...

"Everyone's a pedophile but us, we just like 'em young like god intended"

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

VitalSigns posted:

It's also a slight against males being teachers, a stereotypically 'female' profession in the eyes of the contemporary American right wing.

Why would a man want to do low prestige women's work like teaching kids, must be a predator wanting to gently caress them, why else

Also see: why would a man want to take care of his own children instead of handing them off to his wife, must be a pedophile.

It's *supergreat* to get side eyed just for taking your kid out to do things.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

A huge part of their upset about “sexualizing children” with sex education and consent education is that they absolutely think it’s normal and good for an adult man to gently caress a female child and are disgusted at the thought that the child could have rights in that situation. I think it was Crowder who had a half-hour segment about how pedophilia had nothing in common with what Roy Moore did when he went hunting for teens to corner at the mall, which is healthy and normal according to science and what all men secretly want to do.

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Brawnfire posted:

Also, at the same time, they're chipping away at what pedophilia "really" is. Why, if a forty-year-old man marries a twelve-year-old-girl, under GOD with her parent's blessing, well, that's not pedophilia is it? And they've gotta start dating before that, so...

"Everyone's a pedophile but us, we just like 'em young like god intended"

You can really see this in Tennessee, and with a lot of ongoing lawsuits with 16 and 17 year olds. If they can deflect hard enough, they can cover their own crimes by making it precedent. "You can't accuse me of statutory rape, that age is legal in X" is most likely the next step for a lot of these bastards.

It's disgusting in a lot of manipulative, abusive ways.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
There was a nice lull there, but the right is back on track: gays are pedos. Surely you all remember this from the aughts and ninteys

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

VitalSigns posted:

It's also a slight against males being teachers, a stereotypically 'female' profession in the eyes of the contemporary American right wing.

To be fair there was that one pedophile who went around disguised as a school.

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

I AM GRANDO posted:

A huge part of their upset about “sexualizing children” with sex education and consent education is that they absolutely think it’s normal and good for an adult man to gently caress a female child and are disgusted at the thought that the child could have rights in that situation. I think it was Crowder who had a half-hour segment about how pedophilia had nothing in common with what Roy Moore did when he went hunting for teens to corner at the mall, which is healthy and normal according to science and what all men secretly want to do.

Yeah, the right is loving terrified of consent. Matt Walsh did a video review of some book about consent, and every time he said "consent" a stock scream sound effect would play as if it was the scariest thing in the world.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Wasn't it Rush that did a bit like "these crazy liberals, as long as everyone consents, everything's okay!" as if this was terrifying?

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

FFT posted:

Wasn't it Rush that did a bit like "these crazy liberals, as long as everyone consents, everything's okay!" as if this was terrifying?


quote:

If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it’s perfectly fine, whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

However, contrarily, he's loving dead lol

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Cheers
and also lol

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Maybe I'm doing the same thing QAnon is by imagining my opponents in the worst possible light, but I can't help but think of the anti-trigger warning furor as the biggest creeps in the world complaining that girls whine too much after being raped. And then they promoted an actual child-rapist for president because the rapes he did would let your woke daughter know that you hate her and she'd never feel safe. I've seen trigger warnings get used in lots of ways, both silly and cynical, but whenever I hear someone complain about them I still get skeeved out. Like, this mf spent hours listening to Roger Ailes complain that he couldn't rape their daughter. Then it came out that the rape network's head rape guy was in fact raping everyone he could, and everyone was like, "Okay, he has a point though."

God, a certain gross detail about Ailes that I heard on Chapo has driven me insane. I can't stop thinking about how he tried to coerce his employees, and then made them produce segments about how it was tyranny for them to dislike it, alongside all those smirking pieces of poo poo who knew what was going on.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Xakura posted:

consent is the magic key to the left

thread title?

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

BiggerBoat posted:

thread title?

Currently? "Your daily reminder tat Rush Limbaugh is dead" (sic).

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I do enjoy a daily reminder for that hateful bastard being dead.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

SpeakSlow posted:

Currently? "Your daily reminder tat Rush Limbaugh is dead" (sic).

lmao. Rush is dead

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Over a year dead!

Should be much longer

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

BiggerBoat posted:

thread title?

I thought about it but this was just changed this month, give it a little time to breathe (but not Rush, because he is dead.)

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

GoutPatrol posted:

I thought about it but this was just changed this month, give it a little time to breathe (but not Rush, because he is dead.)

And to be fair, he had trouble with that before he died. Maybe give it a couple of weeks to make up for it?

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Maybe Rush should have consented to staying alive.

I'm glad he didn't though, because him being dead is good and funny.

quote:

But if the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police

Ah yes, the rape police, also known as "the police."

Well, in a world where the police didn't ignore or actively antagonize rape victims, anyway.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

The police are the rape police in more ways than one, they've got their bases covered

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Brawnfire posted:

Over a year dead!

Should be much longer

Congrats, Rush, on a YEAR without nicotine!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Man, I guess it's not shocking but over a year later now and absolutely no one has stepped up to claim Rush''s throne. What little I subject myself to on the radio is just sad, robotic and borderline satire. Like the hosts are all built in a factory or took a community college course in conservative radio. They're such amateurs and the gap in talent between what Rush brought to the table and all these TalkingPointBots_v2.0 is glaring. They all sound the same and I don't have to wait 10 seconds to hear words like "socialism", "Hillary", "Omar", "San Francisco/Chicago" or "unions" and what have you.

Limbaugh had genuine talent for his chosen medium and at least occasionally made hate listening relatively tolerable. He lied a lot (like they all do) but managed to at least make me listen long enough to hear his point and make me go fact check him later and hid behind some thinly veiled idea of "journalism" and "news" with some quotes thrown in.

Now it's just full on dialed up to 11 with the leftist nazis this and the gay/trans pedophiles that along with how great Trump was simply by virtue of Biden sucking. It kind of exposes the dug in differences between the left and the right because I don't know any leftists that like Joe Biden at all (or ever did) but, with the right, it's just a 24/7 Trump infomercial. Democrats that I know are more than capable of criticizing our own.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

BiggerBoat posted:

Man, I guess it's not shocking but over a year later now and absolutely no one has stepped up to claim Rush''s throne. What little I subject myself to on the radio is just sad, robotic and borderline satire. Like the hosts are all built in a factory or took a community college course in conservative radio. They're such amateurs and the gap in talent between what Rush brought to the table and all these TalkingPointBots_v2.0 is glaring. They all sound the same and I don't have to wait 10 seconds to hear words like "socialism", "Hillary", "Omar", "San Francisco/Chicago" or "unions" and what have you.

Limbaugh had genuine talent for his chosen medium and at least occasionally made hate listening relatively tolerable. He lied a lot (like they all do) but managed to at least make me listen long enough to hear his point and make me go fact check him later and hid behind some thinly veiled idea of "journalism" and "news" with some quotes thrown in.

Now it's just full on dialed up to 11 with the leftist nazis this and the gay/trans pedophiles that along with how great Trump was simply by virtue of Biden sucking. It kind of exposes the dug in differences between the left and the right because I don't know any leftists that like Joe Biden at all (or ever did) but, with the right, it's just a 24/7 Trump infomercial. Democrats that I know are more than capable of criticizing our own.

I mean there's also a habit of eating our own so it's not like, perfect or anything.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Congrats, Rush, on a YEAR without nicotine!



Celebrate good times come on!

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

GoutPatrol posted:

I thought about it but this was just changed this month, give it a little time to breathe (but not Rush, because he is dead.)

It's very similar to the previous one, I just wanted to mix it up a little bit, feel free to change if something is better (also BiggerBoat can feel free as the OP obviously). I just personally feel ecstatic every time I open dnd and remind myself that right wing media is missing it's pill popping child raping superstar, and that he died slowly and painfully.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

BiggerBoat posted:

Man, I guess it's not shocking but over a year later now and absolutely no one has stepped up to claim Rush''s throne.

Isn’t Dan Bongino the closest thing to a successor?

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Just noting that David Mamet married a 26 year old when he was 43. I'm actually not that against age gaps, but when you're out there calling every other man a "predator," you're kind of begging me to read into that.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton are technically the successors since they get to sit behind the coveted Golden Microphone at EIB, and they use Rush's music intros too. The reason they're not fully successors is because when Rush died and they went to "Rush's Greatest Hits" with rotating guest hosts for a few months, a bunch of stations dropped it in favor of some other right wing media personality.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Zwabu posted:

Isn’t Dan Bongino the closest thing to a successor?

He sucks. I mean...so did Rush but, like I said, Limbaugh was very god at his job. I hate him and am glad he's dead but his talent is hard to dispute.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Mellow Seas posted:

Just noting that David Mamet married a 26 year old when he was 43. I'm actually not that against age gaps, but when you're out there calling every other man a "predator," you're kind of begging me to read into that.

Based on the fact that he's out there calling people pedophiles on the TV I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt on that age gap and assume that he has some skeletons in his closet and is 100% projecting. A lot of conservative guys I've met really exude the attitude of 'man my teen daughters friend's are all pretty cute huh' and whoa a whole bunch of them wind up with 2nd marriages with suspiciously large age gaps.

e: I also have an extended family member who went to jail for possessing a ton of child porn, and guess who loved Rush and Q and pointing fingers at libs for being perverts and child abusers.

Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Apr 12, 2022

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



BiggerBoat posted:

He sucks. I mean...so did Rush but, like I said, Limbaugh was very god at his job. I hate him and am glad he's dead but his talent is hard to dispute.
It’s funny to me because Rush became more irrelevant as the GOP went further and further right, but now no one can replace him because all of the possible replacements are all no-talent hacks

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Professor Beetus posted:

Based on the fact that he's out there calling people pedophiles on the TV I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt on that age gap and assume that he has some skeletons in his closet and is 100% projecting. A lot of conservative guys I've met really exude the attitude of 'man my teen daughters friend's are all pretty cute huh' and whoa a whole bunch of them wind up with 2nd marriages with suspiciously large age gaps.

e: I also have an extended family member who went to jail for possessing a ton of child porn, and guess who loved Rush and Q and pointing fingers at libs for being perverts and child abusers.

This is probably more prevalent than I like to admit. I keep thinking back to the Catholic Church and all the anti gay poo poo they harped on about and...well we know how that shook out. You throw the corporal punishment of kids (designed to control, silence and scare them) on top of everything else that came to light and it really begins to make sense and seem obvious. Self hatred and guilt directed outward but, man, it's hard for me to think it's ALL projection.

Maybe I'm in denial but the estimated percentage of people with pedophelic inclinations is pretty small, isn't it? I know it's skewed because, like a lot of embarrassing and incriminating things, no one will openly admit to it and they need to be caught but, right or left leaning, it's difficult for me to picture the idea of 35% of the country being all in on loving kids. I realize that a collection of wealthy and powerful people have more clout and power than a straight percentage measurement (see: what goes on in Hollywood) and I believe that this poo poo goes on more than what comes out but I think, in the GOP's case, it's as simple as name calling and the old axiom of making people deny it.

It's an old trick to call people pig fuckers, communists, gay, draft dodgers, n***** lovers, or what have you and then just kind of let the stink of the accusation settle over your enemy and let rumors and word association run their course. I highly doubt there's a large, organized ring of child fuckers out there that walk the halls of government but I may just be naive. They're really REALLY on about pedophiles and it's hard to ignore but I think it's mostly just latching on to a thing everyone loathes and attempting to associate your political enemies with that label. They learned from the Roy Moore situation.

Sadly, it works because I can tell you for a fact that here in NE FL, I've overheard and directly conversed about a lot of stupid bullshit relating to democrats and child sex rings. I think it's accusatory marketing designed to associate "pedophilia" with "democrat" and that's 95% of of it. Probably the most aggressive ones pushing it are the ones we should take a look at but the logical part of me still doesn't think it's widespread, common and rampant.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

BiggerBoat posted:

Man, I guess it's not shocking but over a year later now and absolutely no one has stepped up to claim Rush''s throne.

I think a lot of the reason Rush hasn't been replaced is that he wasn't super relevant by the time he died.

Rush basically invented "political talk radio as entertainment" as a genre, but the internet had pretty well replaced radio as a source of news and opinion by the time he died, and he'd largely fallen behind in the "saying racist/sexist poo poo to drum up outrage" arms race.

Obviously, he still had a ton of listeners relative to anyone else on the radio, but a lot of that was down to name recognition, and the current group of right wing radio hosts tend to be more focused on one specific schtick, so the Limbaugh audience has likely fragmented into a number of smaller groups now.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and withiut listening to these shiws and say that what these people lack is charisma. Rush had charisma, and Trump has charisma. They can work an audience. I hate them both, but I can recognize their stage presence.

And if that total lack of charisma kills these shows, then let 'em die

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Star Man posted:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and withiut listening to these shiws and say that what these people lack is charisma. Rush had charisma, and Trump has charisma. They can work an audience. I hate them both, but I can recognize their stage presence.

And if that total lack of charisma kills these shows, then let 'em die

I think a lot of it is also the same reason there's no good conservative comedians; Rush was an entertainer and radio man first, then slipped into the conservative gig. Everyone else is trying to do that backward.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Glenn Beck was also an entertainer and radio man first, and was incredibly successful for a good while, just that his mistake was not bowing down to Trump immediately and trying to pull a "reasonable conservative" grift with the expectation that Hillary would win.

Oh yeah, funny thing, you know how [current Dem] is always the worst and most evil and most leftist Dem in history, and the right will rehabilitate previous Dems to have been not so bad? I heard that on the radio today with some campaign ad which started with "We survived Obama and HIllary, but do you know who turned out to be worse than both of them combined? Joe Biden!"

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
actual Beck's first mistake was him Going Bender, and leaving Fox News and thinking he could start his own better place, with blackjack and hookers. Even with Mercer dark money to burn.

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