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Risky Bisquick posted:https://english.pravda.ru/amp/news/hotspots/151208-moscow_banker/ its probable he just killed himself and his family - like someone in that position is going to be under insane amounts of stress. i don't really see why he would be the target of any purges either. that one just seems like someone's mind breaking from recent events, and he does the horrible thing.
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OddObserver posted:Weird: there is a death notice for a captain of a Russian LST.... Not the one that sunk. https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1516104542403928072 “Died from wounds” - maybe one of the nearby ships got shredded with random shrapnel from the primary explosion? Edit: Latvian Twitter-donated technicals in Kharkiv https://twitter.com/zeenjaa/status/1516102415547879430 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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lollontee posted:Maybe they should have negotiated with the Donbass republics, the Ukrainians. But I suppose they thought the Russians would never invade, and NATO would fight for them, therefore no need for compromise. And they're looking at a meatgrinder war where the only hope they have is that enough people get butchered that the Russian state just crumbles.... This doesn't really seem like a situation a responsible government ought to pursue. A responsible government is exactly what Ukraine has. Its constituency has been overwhelmingly in support of resisting Russia while knowing the cost. They are participating in all aspects of prosecuting the war, from volunteer civilians fighting and acting in support. The vast majority of the population, with an exceptionally strong national identity, has expressed the will to resist. Zelensky, is led and compelled by his people to fight and fight to the end. He would be run out of office, as they did with Yanukovich, were Ze not responsive to their will.
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Don’t touch the poop, certainly don’t quote it. tia.
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The poop that literally quoted a twitter post with 'russian affiliated media' on it. Not a very bright poop
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I think the "show me a source that says Ukrainians in Mariupol aren't happy with the invading army that has obliterated their homes and slaughtered them by the thousands" was the highlight for me.
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I’m going to start issuing “posting about posters” probations on this one. Move on.
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New Coke posted:I think the "show me a source that says Ukrainians in Mariupol aren't happy with the invading army that has obliterated their homes and slaughtered them by the thousands" was the highlight for me. What, you don't consider Sputnik a Grade-A unimpeachable source?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1516104542403928072 Potentially also something having to do with the fires? Smoke inhalation is in itself quite bad, not too mention actually being on fire.
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Slightly unrelated to ongoing discussion, but pertinent to the overall situation Carnegie Russia was expelled from the country a few weeks ago after some very good articles critical of the war. Here's another one from one of their authors - the tweet thread summarizes https://twitter.com/CarnegieRussia/status/1516112445286363144?s=20&t=wxtGZKQnWSyVr1CAtoa06g Article:https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russian-federation/2022-04-18/russians-war I found this interesting. quote:... Today, the public, or at least the broad mass of ordinary Russians, seems in the mood for war. It's long but it's very very good and comes from the perspective of a native Russian with a lot of connections in the country.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1516086312151011329?s=20&t=kiyfEbIcjWtg6Luxd39ilA Another poster stated "Russia's army isn't going to collapse just yet" - They're starting an offensive but there's not been any signs that it's going to be any more effective than their last one. The one piece of news I've seen is a platoon fought a delaying action against an entire brigade, destroyed several pieces of armor from that brigade's lead elements, and pulled back in good order. That's not the type of thing that happens with an unstoppable onslaught. [edit] Suffice to say, 'The guys being trained are preparing for the next phase, not this one'. Doccers fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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First hand account of the UA combined arms at play. After initial contact, artillery hits their location, as they flee to cover they are shelled by MLRS, and when they get to some cover the UA infantry are flanking or had positions to ambush where they are fleeing towards  https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1516083508720160772 Mariupol 36th marines commander asking for a humanitarian corridor, it is believed many of their families are with them in the bunker. https://www.facebook.com/serjvlk/posts/3267166030277233 The Chilean/American 'journalist' has been captured, probably walked to the border and sent packing unless there are valid charges. See their hot takes below https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/status/1516007391367778305 https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/status/1514857992772104197 https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/status/1514601188204851204  Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1516086312151011329?s=20&t=kiyfEbIcjWtg6Luxd39ilA Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Risky Bisquick posted:I'm honestly shocked they haven't been training them on a multitude of systems since at least the rashists retreat from the northern front. I was being flippant. I'm assuming that a lot of news like this is weeks old in real time. I can only say that while commentators/critics continue to put pressure on US to do more, as we should,, my friends in the Ukrainian military are very much aware of and thankful how much help they're getting.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1516086312151011329?s=20&t=kiyfEbIcjWtg6Luxd39ilA Not a little late for the coming counter offensive that will drive the Russians from Ukraine.
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some social media reports from ukraine that the giant pile of russian tanks has advanced past kreminna to zarichne. not ideal. https://twitter.com/TuiteroMartin/status/1516128443091591183
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I'm sure they are getting help, but training is simply coordination, and they likely have some sort of idea of what sort of material they need and the foreign governments can provide. They should be doing this immediately, and in a forward looking way so the material aid, when delivered, can be immediately used. Look at the Czech SPG system that they sent over, there were videos of it in use (though questionable if it was combat or training) nearly immediately. This is the help they need.
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How are u posted:Not a little late for the coming counter offensive that will drive the Russians from Ukraine. And the inevitable buildup after the war just in case Russia wants to do this again
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Doccers posted:Another poster stated "Russia's army isn't going to collapse just yet" - They're starting an offensive but there's not been any signs that it's going to be any more effective than their last one. The one piece of news I've seen is a platoon fought a delaying action against an entire brigade, destroyed several pieces of armor from that brigade's lead elements, and pulled back in good order. That's not the type of thing that happens with an unstoppable onslaught. it was like 40 pieces of armor that got destroyed or hosed up in their strategic retreat. https://twitter.com/expatua/status/1516087197920813061 it looks like some of their airpower might be out and out fake.
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I wish I had you folks' optimism about the upcoming/ongoing battle. The Russian supply lines look way less overstretched than in their attempt at Kyiv (modulo the stuff from North to Izyum) and force concentration is much better...
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Concerned Citizen posted:some social media reports from ukraine that the giant pile of russian tanks has advanced past kreminna to zarichne. not ideal. I'm not sure why this guy is proposing the least likely route for Russians to reach exactly one village over from where they were this morning. Also the source just says "troops" so it's not clear what that means. Looks like the tweet was deleted in the time I took to type this but I'm hitting submit anyway
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Dapper_Swindler posted:it was like 40 pieces of armor that got destroyed or hosed up in their strategic retreat. Might be stripped for parts
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Any of those folks GOP members and/ or named "Donald J. Trump"?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/expatua/status/1516087197920813061 Russian military - is it cake?
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man it's annoying when guys post "NOW:" and then link a week old story
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OddObserver posted:I wish I had you folks' optimism about the upcoming/ongoing battle. The Russian supply lines look way less overstretched than in their attempt at Kyiv (modulo the stuff from North to Izyum) and force concentration is much better... Yeah, I am all but certain they'll be able to encircle the Donbas. Putin ideally wanted a puppet regime but Control of those gas fields and water to Crimea is a nice consolation prize. Who cares about the west of the country let it be a charity case for "the west" for the rest of the century.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Russian military - is it cake? We may have figured out the mystery of the Hypersonic Missiles Turns out they were made of Playdoh This war is going to end with the new Moscow Skyline falling down as a massive cardboard set and Putin's pants falling down isn't it?
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I'm getting whiplash from people here clowning on the Russian army and thinking Russia is about to lose the upcoming fights and other people saying Donbass is about to be encircled and Russia will control the valuable parts of Ukraine. Which is it gonna be?
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Risky Bisquick posted:First hand account of the UA combined arms at play. After initial contact, artillery hits their location, as they flee to cover they are shelled by MLRS, and when they get to some cover the UA infantry are flanking or had positions to ambush where they are fleeing towards "At least you can run fast, that's good" Picturing the Russian Forrest Gump sprinting out of an artillery barrage.
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm getting whiplash from people here clowning on the Russian army and thinking Russia is about to lose the upcoming fights and other people saying Donbass is about to be encircled and Russia will control the valuable parts of Ukraine. Does anyone in this thread think that the grand encirclement in Donbas is going to actually happen? I mean, my money is on continued push and pull and constant attrition, not some strategic breakthrough on either side (it's just constant attrition hurts Russia much, much more, and they're taking more of it, to boot).
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Dapper_Swindler posted:it was like 40 pieces of armor that got destroyed or hosed up in their strategic retreat.
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm getting whiplash from people here clowning on the Russian army and thinking Russia is about to lose the upcoming fights and other people saying Donbass is about to be encircled and Russia will control the valuable parts of Ukraine. Both can be true, the Russian army is loving awful but it doesn't need to be amazing to control just the Donbass region.
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm getting whiplash from people here clowning on the Russian army and thinking Russia is about to lose the upcoming fights and other people saying Donbass is about to be encircled and Russia will control the valuable parts of Ukraine. I'm not sure where people are remotely getting the idea that the same Russian military, which has failed at every military objective so far besides gunning down unarmed civilians, suddenly became competent enough to launch a 2nd massive offensive in a month because *checks notes* a platoon in a village was attacked by a bunch of tanks. Like, what do y'all think massively increased Russian competency/ logistics in that time? TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Risky Bisquick posted:I'm honestly shocked they haven't been training them on a multitude of systems since at least the rashists retreat from the northern front.
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm getting whiplash from people here clowning on the Russian army and thinking Russia is about to lose the upcoming fights and other people saying Donbass is about to be encircled and Russia will control the valuable parts of Ukraine. The valuable parts of Ukraine?
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