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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Off in the distance you can see Japanese whaling boats.

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Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1515157284363509760

copy
Jul 26, 2007

Dreylad posted:

that it's doomed to political stagnation and decay unlike uh, um, er

lol

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uwrue9cnY

20 minutes of trains and railway content

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

present-day socialist realism only reads as parody if you're projecting onto it that way. if you're mostly spending time with disaffected bourgeois aspirants then yeah, makes sense

there's a reason rural villagers put up posters of mao zedong and now xi. it's not "kitsch" to them and dismissing it as such is ludicrously patronizing

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Danann posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uwrue9cnY

20 minutes of trains and railway content

This video rules

I want to be the guy pushing the little bolt-tightening cart

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The bolt tightening thing seems like something you'd really need to get into a rhythm for since he misses at least once on camera.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

R. Guyovich posted:

present-day socialist realism only reads as parody if you're projecting onto it that way. if you're mostly spending time with disaffected bourgeois aspirants then yeah, makes sense

there's a reason rural villagers put up posters of mao zedong and now xi. it's not "kitsch" to them and dismissing it as such is ludicrously patronizing

when I was a kid my friend's parents had W's presidential portrait in their living room and another photo of him in a bathroom

they were not in the military or anything I think his dad was a car mechanic tho

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I also don't think official portraits of leaders or country founders are 'socialist realism' either tho

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

good socialist realism shows people struggling and overcoming stuff in a sorta "this is real people in real every day struggle" and i think it did well to evolve past "peasants in the field, iron workers in the mill, party workers instructing socialist thought" like showing athletes and scientists and other aspirational stuff







idk how you can unironically like a painting of some bureaucrats talking about how to better enforce VAT compliance or w/e

edit:

like even this Zizek book cover fuckin rules b/c the romanticism and realism are blended just-so

it makes lenin feel human and in a sense something aspirational, like we should all be thinkers and doers like lenin

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 01:31 on Apr 22, 2022

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

the party meeting on the upper floors of some building in the Bund led by well dressed young people done in that realist style, idk, feels out of touch

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

I always wonder if those whales get mad that some dumb apes hosed up their suicide attempt

forgot what thread i was reading and assumed this was about nfts

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Antonymous posted:

I also don't think official portraits of leaders or country founders are 'socialist realism' either tho

i'm not saying it is. it's representative of sincere ideological belief, which is a component of socialist realism

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


This is a particular favourite of mine from Ivan Vladimirov:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die




:ussr:

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Antonymous posted:

good socialist realism shows people struggling and overcoming stuff in a sorta "this is real people in real every day struggle" and i think it did well to evolve past "peasants in the field, iron workers in the mill, party workers instructing socialist thought" like showing athletes and scientists and other aspirational stuff







idk how you can unironically like a painting of some bureaucrats talking about how to better enforce VAT compliance or w/e

edit:

like even this Zizek book cover fuckin rules b/c the romanticism and realism are blended just-so

it makes lenin feel human and in a sense something aspirational, like we should all be thinkers and doers like lenin

plenty of those in other contemporary chinese paintings. some great ones with health care workers made during the pandemic. but why not cover all strata of society? there's no indication these are hyper wealthy people, they look like office workers

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


30.5 Days posted:

lmao having thoroughly exhausted the idea that the CCP is brutally suppressing the people of china, liberals are once again taking aim at the very concept of popular government

Brains completely broken by the idea of real adults having to make tough, unpopular choices. No pain, no gain for governance

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Antonymous posted:

good socialist realism shows people struggling and overcoming stuff in a sorta "this is real people in real every day struggle" and i think it did well to evolve past "peasants in the field, iron workers in the mill, party workers instructing socialist thought" like showing athletes and scientists and other aspirational stuff







...

These are cool, a little bit of Diego Revere.

I want to post some stylistic Chinese stamps from the 90s, but can't find any good samples.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Antonymous posted:

when I was a kid my friend's parents had W's presidential portrait in their living room and another photo of him in a bathroom

they were not in the military or anything I think his dad was a car mechanic tho

What doesn't everyone have one of these?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Antonymous posted:

when I was a kid my friend's parents had W's presidential portrait in their living room and another photo of him in a bathroom

they were not in the military or anything I think his dad was a car mechanic tho

lol that’s great

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

R. Guyovich posted:

there's a reason rural villagers put up posters of mao zedong and now xi. it's not "kitsch" to them and dismissing it as such is ludicrously patronizing

lol I dont think so rguy

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

BrainDance posted:

lol I dont think so rguy

please do let us know the unique insight you've gathered from the finest thread gbs has to offer on how it's all the product of coercion or whatever other brilliant thoughts are rattling around in that vessel of yours

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

the fools are brainwashed by having the highest increase in standard of living, in the shortest amount of time in world history

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009

Am I misunderstanding or is one of these western woman's complaints about Chunese nurseries is that they are cuddling the infants too much? Isn't that just considered best practices nowadays?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Danann posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uwrue9cnY

20 minutes of trains and railway content

horny is prohibited

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

R. Guyovich posted:

please do let us know the unique insight you've gathered from the finest thread gbs has to offer on how it's all the product of coercion or whatever other brilliant thoughts are rattling around in that vessel of yours

Oh no, not the GBS thread! As crazy as it sounds rguy, I don't spend every waking minute on SA. Which is maybe why I don't say things like "rattling around in that vessel of yours." Who talks like that?

Otherwise I don't know what to tell you besides, no. Mao maybe, I've met a lot of older guys who are really all about Mao still but I have never met a person in rural China who looks at a picture of Xi Jinping (which, I dunno where you get the idea that it's usually the villagers themselves putting that stuff up.) a tear drops from their eye and they say "this... this is not kitsch, this is deadly serious to me." It's the stereotype that rural people "distrust the party," and there's some truth to it, but I think it's more often apathy than anything good or bad. If you want to talk about what's patronizing, your portrayal of rural people is patronizing. They're not medieval peasants, blindly devoted to Xi, who look at some crappy party painting and say "next year in Beijing!"


Maybe it looks different if you're in your bubble in Shanghai or Beijing, and you watch CCTV all day, there are a lot of rural Chinese people so if you tried you can find a way to make any story. But that would be "ventriloquizing" or whatever, right?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

People all around the world put up pictures of famous politicians, especially founding members of their current political system.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

pathetic mischaracterization of my position and a transparent attempt to go "actually it is you who is infantilizing" to feint away from your own projection

not once did i say everyone in china or rural china is a monolithic group only capable of revering the party. they are varied and have plenty of their own opinions, positive and negative. but it's the negative that get amplified among corporate media and expats for very obvious reasons, and merely acknowledging the (rather large) cohort that is able to appreciate the improvements in their lives since '49 and give credit where it's due is treated as childishly as you're doing here. because there can't be any engagement with this idea on the merits, no sir! it must be treated as illegitimate on its face and browbeaten out of existence. how loving boring.

i bring up gbs because it's easy shorthand for this attitude and the thought-terminating cliches that come with it. also we're on sa, dumbass! there's a specific reference pool one can draw on here that would be meaningless in other venues.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
a member of the perfidious republican party has placed a picture of george w bush in my bathroom and now I must stare into his eyes while i poo poo, upon pain of death

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Yadoppsi posted:

Am I misunderstanding or is one of these western woman's complaints about Chunese nurseries is that they are cuddling the infants too much? Isn't that just considered best practices nowadays?

communism is when there are good daycares

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Dreylad posted:

horny is prohibited

Here's 1 hour of industry content :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bVaMUds5gw

Edit:
Segments:
02:22 Ship building
08:40 5G Micro processors
12:59 Aviation & Aerospace industry
20:29 Nuclear Energy
26:07 New Energy Vehicles
30:17 Dark Factory
32:20 Robots building robots
34:06 7 axis robot - drawing on an egg - aka egg-bot
36:06 BeiDou global positioning and china's space industry
39:52 High Speed Rail - rejuvination series train.
45:25 Garment Industry - Mass produced, Tailor made & custom design.

Danann has issued a correction as of 04:41 on Apr 22, 2022

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Yadoppsi posted:

Am I misunderstanding or is one of these western woman's complaints about Chunese nurseries is that they are cuddling the infants too much? Isn't that just considered best practices nowadays?

these part where they clapped at themselves, grown people, beating kids in tugging a rope and messing up their game is mindboggling

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Their whole gimmick is just posting what ex lf posters say on twitter/retweet.

Oh no not LF

https://twitter.com/SeanRMoorhead/status/1517272577093214208

otoh...

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The best socialist realist artist is that Chinese guy who paints pictures of cute women in the PLA.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Danann posted:

Here's 1 hour of industry content :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bVaMUds5gw

Edit:
Segments:
02:22 Ship building
08:40 5G Micro processors
12:59 Aviation & Aerospace industry
20:29 Nuclear Energy
26:07 New Energy Vehicles
30:17 Dark Factory
32:20 Robots building robots
34:06 7 axis robot - drawing on an egg - aka egg-bot
36:06 BeiDou global positioning and china's space industry
39:52 High Speed Rail - rejuvination series train.
45:25 Garment Industry - Mass produced, Tailor made & custom design.

oh man this is like a way better "How It's Made"

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Danann posted:

Here's 1 hour of industry content :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bVaMUds5gw

Edit:
Segments:
02:22 Ship building
08:40 5G Micro processors
12:59 Aviation & Aerospace industry
20:29 Nuclear Energy
26:07 New Energy Vehicles
30:17 Dark Factory
32:20 Robots building robots
34:06 7 axis robot - drawing on an egg - aka egg-bot
36:06 BeiDou global positioning and china's space industry
39:52 High Speed Rail - rejuvination series train.
45:25 Garment Industry - Mass produced, Tailor made & custom design.

thanks this is chill got a wholesome socialist realism vibe

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Antonymous posted:

when I was a kid my friend's parents had W's presidential portrait in their living room and another photo of him in a bathroom

they were not in the military or anything I think his dad was a car mechanic tho

my former boss related to us several times how “my grandparents only had two portraits in the house, Jesus and Bear Bryant, in no particular order”

hot witch divorcee
Jan 4, 2021

is that a tower in your pants or are you just happy to see me

Antonymous posted:

the party meeting on the upper floors of some building in the Bund led by well dressed young people done in that realist style, idk, feels out of touch

idk as a computer toucher it speaks to me and is very aspirational. i hated when i had to go into an office because it was a bunch of externalities that cost my wallet and personal time dumped on to me in a lovely suburb with bad transit all so i can be micromanaged and made less productive because i spend more time and energy looking busy than actually doing anything. i look at that painting and im like wow it would actually rule if you could start at a reasonable time and go into the office in a snazzy rear end pencil skirt to a nice building with a great view and were there to work with people who, if you are managing something mundane with, its at least something important, but also you could be working on something cool. there's an energy and passion to everyone there that i have never seen in an office in the us.

so yeah. it speaks to me and is inspirational. i really wish i could live in a society that values what i see in that painting alone, never mind one that actually resembles it.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Mantis42 posted:

The best socialist realist artist is that Chinese guy who paints pictures of cute women in the PLA.

hu ming is a woman (and iirc was ai wei wei's sister in law? lol). unless you're talking about someone else.

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I'm talking about Zhang Da Zhong, who is indeed a dude who likes to paint cute chicks in red guard uniforms. dudes rock

https://zhangdazhongart.wordpress.com/about/

https://www.google.com/search?q=zhang+da+zhong

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