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Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

Grey Hunter posted:


Edit. Heat creep sound like it could be a thing. It's weird that it's a new problem on a two year old printer. If it's that.

I'll do some experimenting.

Your retraction should be at least 50mm/s and 6mm is the high end of retraction. 4.5 is probably more correct. I use 6mm retraction on a bowden tube thats twice your length. Retractions that are to long can cause jams. 200c is quite cold, and as noted by other posters, white filament, and white-ish filaments need to be printed hotter. I wouldn't be printing that at less than 210.

Heat creep is "more or less" not a thing. I wouldn't blame it. Assuming everything else on your printer is stock. The cooling solution on Ender's is totally enough for their hot end.

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Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
I'm hoping someone can tell me what is happening here:





So the top and bottom layers of my prints are just not adhering to the other layers. If I rip them off, they are perfectly fine, but those two layers are pretty lightly connected. It makes for REAL ugly prints when there is any kind of detail on either side. :(

It also seems to be somewhat structurally worse? But that may be completely anecdotal.

I'm using:

Ender 3 using PLA
Prusa Slicer
Hot End: 210
Bed: 60

Using OctoPrint to print.

Bed is MOSTLY level, printing mostly on the front of the bed when I can where it's most level, but unfortunately the rear is a little too high, but not ridiculously.

Is there any other info that I may be missing? I'm going a bit insane here. I don't know if it's just an issue of older filament or something? I am now questioning the filament that has been sitting for a while on the machine, on the spool. However it had this issue before I took a LONG hiatus from printing things...

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Nozzle is too high off the bed. Tram again, but be more aggressive. Print a large, one layer square object and if it still looks ‘loose’, live adjust the Z lower until it looks clean.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Doctor Zero posted:

Nozzle is too high off the bed. Tram again, but be more aggressive. Print a large, one layer square object and if it still looks ‘loose’, live adjust the Z lower until it looks clean.

I use a BL Touch, so it's levelling everything every time. I guess the offset might be too large then?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Drowning Rabbit posted:

I'm hoping someone can tell me what is happening here:





So the top and bottom layers of my prints are just not adhering to the other layers. If I rip them off, they are perfectly fine, but those two layers are pretty lightly connected. It makes for REAL ugly prints when there is any kind of detail on either side. :(

It also seems to be somewhat structurally worse? But that may be completely anecdotal.

I'm using:

Ender 3 using PLA
Prusa Slicer
Hot End: 210
Bed: 60

Using OctoPrint to print.

Bed is MOSTLY level, printing mostly on the front of the bed when I can where it's most level, but unfortunately the rear is a little too high, but not ridiculously.

Is there any other info that I may be missing? I'm going a bit insane here. I don't know if it's just an issue of older filament or something? I am now questioning the filament that has been sitting for a while on the machine, on the spool. However it had this issue before I took a LONG hiatus from printing things...

I had a similar issue with one roll of filament. I managed to get it working more normally in a different machine where I could adjust the tension on the extruder gear to be stronger, the filament was slipping in the ender 3 style extruder. I'm not sure if that's your specific issue but it looks like some kind of under extrusion, either due to a partial clog or it can't feed the filament as fast as it wants to.

I'd try a cold pull first to see if there's a partial clog. Maybe reseat the tube in your nozzle (or just change nozzles) if it's not improving. Make sure your extruder arm hasn't cracked and that it's getting a good grip on the filament. You can try an e-step calibration but sometimes the extruder tension arm thing cracking isn't obvious and won't show up without pressure from the bowden tube and hotend.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Rexxed posted:

I had a similar issue with one roll of filament. I managed to get it working more normally in a different machine where I could adjust the tension on the extruder gear to be stronger, the filament was slipping in the ender 3 style extruder. I'm not sure if that's your specific issue but it looks like some kind of under extrusion, either due to a partial clog or it can't feed the filament as fast as it wants to.

I'd try a cold pull first to see if there's a partial clog. Maybe reseat the tube in your nozzle (or just change nozzles) if it's not improving. Make sure your extruder arm hasn't cracked and that it's getting a good grip on the filament. You can try an e-step calibration but sometimes the extruder tension arm thing cracking isn't obvious and won't show up without pressure from the bowden tube and hotend.

The extruder is replaced to be completely metal since the one that came with it definitely had some issues. I can check the tension, and will do that after this sacrificial print. I'm trying to print the last bit of box lid that I need for Terraforming Mars for now.

I know that since I had left this printer sitting for several months doing nothing, I started a print and it quickly was printing nothing, as it seems the PLA had snapped at some point in the bowden tube. I had replaced it and set the extruder to extrude until it was pushing filament out again and it was working fine.

I would THINK that would be the smoking gun, but I know this was absolutely happening before this recent long hiatus.

I'm curious if my settings for my BL Touch may be off slightly, and the nozzle may not be getting close enough after the calibration or something. I haven't been able to test that as it's still been printing the latest print that I was trying to get sorted.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

Drowning Rabbit posted:

I know that since I had left this printer sitting for several months doing nothing, I started a print and it quickly was printing nothing, as it seems the PLA had snapped at some point in the bowden tube.

Thanks for reminding me to go downstairs and put that spool into a baggie!

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Drowning Rabbit posted:

I know that since I had left this printer sitting for several months doing nothing, I started a print and it quickly was printing nothing, as it seems the PLA had snapped at some point in the bowden tube. I had replaced it and set the extruder to extrude until it was pushing filament out again and it was working fine.

I have some Inland glow in the dark PLA that is absolutely nasty to print with, for the same reason. A ~25 degree flex will snap it clean off, and it loves to do that inside the extruder :argh:.

Crossposting my latest project that I'm very proud of, also for a board game.

canyoneer posted:

We also explored a different lost city, by spending an afternoon painting the storage boxes I printed for a friend's copy of Lost Ruins of Arnak. I used this guy's models from thingiverse and painted it all in Inland PLA, bone white color on my reliable ol' Prusa mini.
I have only played Arnak one time, but that friend loves it. The storage insert for Arnak is totally nonexistent. CGE should take notes from Stonemaier Games on how to make a decent organizer insert. Hey, even the one included in Codenames is better, but I digress. As a surprise for that friend, I spent a few days printing out all the components. The models the guy provided are fantastic. The game is themed as a mid 20th century Indiana Jones-esque pulp adventure exploration vibe. So naturally, the storage containers should all be wooden crates, and the locations should be crumbling, overgrown ancient architectural marvels evocative of Angkor Wat, Tikal, or Machu Picchu.

We painted the crates with colors matching the tokens or cards that will be housed inside, bold golden text, and hit them all with a brown wash to pop the detail on the wood. The crate lids either lift off (card piles) or slide off (tokens).

Some of the tiles got stored in some ruins! We layered several earth and stone tones onto the walls to add texture, drybrushed some gold on the mosaics, freehanded some overgrown vines, and added some moss to the lower layers and the watercourses.



I consider myself a well-taught but inexperienced novice painter, and my friend had never painted miniatures before. I'm really proud of how they turned out, and now setup and takedown of the game is going to be less than 5 minutes each, rather than the 15 or 20 he is accustomed to. Faster setup means more time actually playing games, which is the only goal in life.

Printing is fun and so is painting. :sun:

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
So I stupidly waited for the print to finish, then looked over ( it's literally like 6 feet from me ) and noticed that the filament ran out during the print and I never noticed.

I was trying to update the firmware for about 5 minutes, until that was a panic of "Holy poo poo I can't remember anything about my board or anything", that then lead me back to google, where I found the offset is actually controlled via the configuration settings and I felt much better.

Did a bed levelling, then checked with paper, and it was indeed VERY far from the bed. I've since brought it down to grip the paper a little at least and started another print with new PLA. Turns out the bottom of the box will likely look lovely in white PLA, but the top will hopefully print much better... in brown.

Wish me luck! ;)

Thanks for the help!

Toebone
Jul 1, 2002

Start remembering what you hear.
I replaced the hot end on my Ender 3 (stock for stock) and printed off a Benchy afterwards to test. Most of it came out pretty good, but the chimney is all blobby. Any ideas?

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


I'm sorry to tell you this, but your printer has herpes

mewse
May 2, 2006

Toebone posted:

I replaced the hot end on my Ender 3 (stock for stock) and printed off a Benchy afterwards to test. Most of it came out pretty good, but the chimney is all blobby. Any ideas?



That's a pretty nice benchy but maybe there's something going on with your slicer settings with respect to retraction that is causing those blobs

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Finally got around to ordering an S1 pro. And some filament. Let's hope it arrives soon. I've got some small prints I want to make in time for my wife's birthday. (Namely a bouquet, she likes flowers but doesn't like that they wither)

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015



I love 3d printing. Got this microscope body super cheap because someone had removed the knobs and replaced them with flat caps. Now I just need to whiten the body plastic a bit.

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
I'm klipperizing my Ender 3 v2. It's fully stock other than a bl touch, eager to see how far I can push it (not very far I'm sure).

I know I need to upgrade the part cooling but I've been holding off because I've toying with upgrading the hot end and extruder too...

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008
Honestly the hotend is perfectly fine unless you are hard up with high temp printing

All the ender should reasonably need is a new part cooling shroud to let the stock fan hit both sides of the part, new extruder vs the plastic, and replace the ptfe tube touching the nozzle with something high temp or add a spacer, etc

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


thoughts on sirayatech tenacious resin? it's a bit more expensive but i hear good things about strength and impact resistance. might mix some into my fast gray.

use case is cosplay props that might get dropped or take a ding.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

I'm having a weeeeird issue with my old Elegoo Mars.

It's been sitting disused for like 14 months so I drained the vat and gave it a once-over cleaning and got a few decent prints off of it.

I'm trying to print some walls and stuff from this set https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5337884 for a sci-fi tabletop game scenario I'm going to be running in a bit. I've been printing things with supports 'cuz I'm a coward and I figured I'd blu-tac the floor tiles to the table surface anyway so I wasn't too worried about the open lock stuff in the bases. But whatever, the files say they print without supports and slicing through them I saw no reason that they shouldn't, so I set up the following on my build plate and gave it a shot:



I'm using Siraya smoky black resin or something like that - the bottle itself is pretty old but I did just crack it open last week and like I said, I'd been getting decent prints out of it.

Unfortunately, when I checked on the build when it was done, the single floor plate in the upper left hand corner of the project view (obscured by the corner wall piece) hadn't printed at all, and the wall pieces all cut off right above the top plate of the floor as shown in the example below (please pardon all the white gunk in some of the details, my IPA bucket desperately needs changing)



Any ideas what would cause this? I'd think maybe the UV screen had burned out or something but there's definitely sad little geometric shapes cured to the FEP film where it kept trying to print.

The other weird thing is that somehow the build plate had lifted itself high enough that the knob was interfering with the enclosure. I....I don't know how to explain it really, because the enclosure didn't seem popped off or anything when I went to retrieve the build, but after taking the plate off and getting the failed prints off the enclosure didn't fit properly when I put it back on. (Ghosts, maybe?)

Anyway I'm obviously going to be replacing the vat film (it really needed it anyway, tbh) but I'm wondering if anyone else can figure out what my issue could be here.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


followup to the above, what's the thinniest walls you've had success with? i'm trying to do an internally lit gem from red resin, and 2.5mm thickness isn't bad, but i'm wondering what I can get away with.

insta
Jan 28, 2009

Roundboy posted:

Honestly the hotend is perfectly fine unless you are hard up with high temp printing

All the ender should reasonably need is a new part cooling shroud to let the stock fan hit both sides of the part, new extruder vs the plastic, and replace the ptfe tube touching the nozzle with something high temp or add a spacer, etc

You can outrun the stock Creality hotend on stock Creality settings pretty easily. He's going to obliterate the hotend's limits at Klipper speeds.

Alternative pants
Nov 2, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.


I've been through the first couple of pages and may have missed it, but are there any good resources on learning how to manually build supports for a resin printer? All of the pre-supported prints I've done come out fine, but any time I try to use auto-generated supports from the Anycubic slicer, the print fails miserably.

For reference, I'm printing on a Mono 4K with the Anycubic 405nm resin.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Alternative pants posted:

I've been through the first couple of pages and may have missed it, but are there any good resources on learning how to manually build supports for a resin printer? All of the pre-supported prints I've done come out fine, but any time I try to use auto-generated supports from the Anycubic slicer, the print fails miserably.

For reference, I'm printing on a Mono 4K with the Anycubic 405nm resin.

This is in Chitu, and this is like, advanced poo poo
But it's a pretty good watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFRpG5V5vQ

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008

insta posted:

You can outrun the stock Creality hotend on stock Creality settings pretty easily. He's going to obliterate the hotend's limits at Klipper speeds.

Klipper speeds are whatever you set. A good rule of thumb is to figure out your actual volumetric flow limit and set that in your slicer, so you can never run it out

And I would maintain that acceleration is a bigger boon then raw speed, and PA is the biggest gain of it all. That is one of the reasons you go with klipper along with all the other quality of life updates

Nothing trumps proper settings but I think my listing of day 1 ender 3 updates is pretty accurate. A new hotend is a bigger investment and is in the realm of changing what the printer is in the long run

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Alternative pants posted:

I've been through the first couple of pages and may have missed it, but are there any good resources on learning how to manually build supports for a resin printer? All of the pre-supported prints I've done come out fine, but any time I try to use auto-generated supports from the Anycubic slicer, the print fails miserably.

For reference, I'm printing on a Mono 4K with the Anycubic 405nm resin.

I’ve got my ‘how to use auto supports’ video finished. I’m working on editing now. Will probably be done tomorrow or Friday.

E: oh, Anycubic slicer? No no no no. Don’t try to do supports in that, it’s godawful.

Doctor Zero fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 4, 2022

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Sockser posted:

This is in Chitu, and this is like, advanced poo poo
But it's a pretty good watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFRpG5V5vQ

Greg has been going crazy with supports lately. He uses wayyyy too many of them, and he locks model parts in between supports making it very likely you’ll break poo poo off. His later videos should be skipped.

The Atlas team has some great videos though.

https://youtu.be/23xzNuWftRI

snail
Sep 25, 2008

CHEESE!

Roundboy posted:

Klipper speeds are whatever you set. A good rule of thumb is to figure out your actual volumetric flow limit and set that in your slicer, so you can never run it out

This x1000. Not empty quoting.

There are plenty of reliable benchmark results out there, apply the number and win.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


Any thoughts or insight on this at all? I’m getting a fresh stack of gloves and IPA this weekend so I should be able to rebuild my vat and give things a good cleaning, but it’s still such a weird failure I’m a little sketched out

Alternative pants
Nov 2, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.


Doctor Zero posted:

I’ve got my ‘how to use auto supports’ video finished. I’m working on editing now. Will probably be done tomorrow or Friday.

E: oh, Anycubic slicer? No no no no. Don’t try to do supports in that, it’s godawful.

I’ve downloaded Lychee. Do you have a channel I could follow?

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
The S1 Pro is ordered is supposed to be here sometime between june and july.
Yet Ive got 9 rolls of filament ordered in various colors.... Yikes.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Prusa released a $350 box. It's very nice, but also it's a box.*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkzlZTeIOQ
https://www.prusa3d.com/product/original-prusa-enclosure-3/

*with some optional but cool accessories, but also it's just a box

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
How long before somebody tries to use that as a box for a hang printer?

Edit: https://hangprinter.org/

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Hypnolobster posted:

Prusa released a $350 box. It's very nice, but also it's a box.*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lkzlZTeIOQ
https://www.prusa3d.com/product/original-prusa-enclosure-3/

*with some optional but cool accessories, but also it's just a box

Expensive, but to me enclosures always seem more expensive than I would want them to be.

poo poo, openbuild's modular enclosure kit starts at 289 and doesn't even include the actual panels. (And don't even think of looking at comparable kits from e.g. McMaster if you think 289 is spendy for a hardware kit)

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Swapped out the latches holding in my panels with some magnet mounted ones, magnets are way cooler



Also some other misc reprints of various parts

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

mattfl posted:

Swapped out the latches holding in my panels with some magnet mounted ones, magnets are way cooler



Also some other misc reprints of various parts



:swoon: looks amazing!

What are the outside dimensions of that?

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

Enclosures are always weirdly more expensive than you think they should be.

That box is neat and the fire suppression system is very cool. I wouldn’t really need it as a hobbyist but bells and whistles are great.

I wonder how long an Einsy will last at nylon temps.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Doctor Zero posted:

:swoon: looks amazing!

What are the outside dimensions of that?

20”x20”x24”. It’s pretty big lol

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

mattfl posted:

Swapped out the latches holding in my panels with some magnet mounted ones, magnets are way cooler



Also some other misc reprints of various parts



Stop making me want to build a bigger voron!

Do this guy from a kit or what? I keep looking into a 2.4 but am going to have a really hard time justifying $2k+ Canadian to do it

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

w00tmonger posted:

Stop making me want to build a bigger voron!

Do this guy from a kit or what? I keep looking into a 2.4 but am going to have a really hard time justifying $2k+ Canadian to do it

This was a formbot kit.

I’m tempted to build a v0 now lol. I def don’t need one but they are so cute lol

Roundboy
Oct 21, 2008
I am very tempted to get a v0 also kit in neon bright colors for very quick speedy prints of small parts that are to be a good bulk of what I pribt

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lithium flour
Jan 27, 2012

a fully digital ovine

Rockman Reserve posted:

Any thoughts or insight on this at all? I’m getting a fresh stack of gloves and IPA this weekend so I should be able to rebuild my vat and give things a good cleaning, but it’s still such a weird failure I’m a little sketched out

I think you are on the right lines with planning to change the fep. If that doesn't help, see if you have room to print at an angle, with supports. I have occasionally seen this same problem happen when right angles are perpendicular to the plate, but I have no idea why! :iiam:

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