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Risky Bisquick posted:First T90M loss ? First documented yeah. T90Ms are the ones with the latest anti-missile defense system they have. They're also designed to protect crew when operating in areas with nuclear fallout, of all things. The clancy chat that designed them probably expected them to roll into places after nukes go off.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, the Ukrainian public isn't going to accept an end to this war that doesn't return the Republics at minimum. Do we actually know that? Do we know that people living under falling bombs in places like Kyiv want that to continue so they can take back areas in the east that have been out of their control for 8 years now? Places that are at this point probably not even wanting to be part of Ukraine again?
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Rad Russian posted:They're also designed to protect crew when operating in areas with nuclear fallout of all things. Doesn’t the majority of mid-late Cold War armour provide that protection?
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Crimean Bridge chat. http://crimeanbridgedown.com.ua/
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Charliegrs posted:Do we actually know that? Do we know that people living under falling bombs in places like Kyiv want that to continue so they can take back areas in the east that have been out of their control for 8 years now? Places that are at this point probably not even wanting to be part of Ukraine again? Yes, we actually know that. This war has popular support of Ukrainian population on a level or 70-95%, depending on the specific questions polled. “Don’t Ukrainians want Russia to permanently occupy some parts of its country” is a frankly insulting argument, especially for how often it gets repeated.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Doesn’t the majority of mid-late Cold War armour provide that protection? Yes.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Doesn’t the majority of mid-late Cold War armour provide that protection? Yes, basically everything above "modified civilian model" has that.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Doesn’t the majority of mid-late Cold War armour provide that protection? True. Probably need better experts to chime in on how those systems are rated. I assume there's a scale? Since it was one of the Ms listed improvement areas I assume it's just marketing speak for "it's like before but now actually works!" Although all the hyped modern jammer gear on it obviously didn't help this tank if it was Javelined. Unclear from the photo how it died. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 4, 2022 |
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Crimean Bridge chat. http://crimeanbridgedown.com.ua/ Taken from here https://t.me/informnapalm/8282 Machine translation quote:😃 Someone bothered and specially created a site with a countdown to the destruction of the Kerch Bridge, which is also called "Crimean".
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Charliegrs posted:Do we actually know that? Do we know that people living under falling bombs in places like Kyiv want that to continue so they can take back areas in the east that have been out of their control for 8 years now? Places that are at this point probably not even wanting to be part of Ukraine again? You should try asking Ukrainians what they think.
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1521802979619311618?s=20&t=cosfiUZLw_fDsJFdLUVdVw This reads like an especially intense episode of Sesame Street, what loving lunacy
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Doesn’t the majority of mid-late Cold War armour provide that protection? Yes, even BMP-1 was developed with irradiated battlefields in mind
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fatherboxx posted:Yes, even BMP-1 was developed with irradiated battlefields in mind Yup. In fact a lot of Russian tanks and APCs were designed specifically assuming they would be travelling the atomically scarred battlefield where NBC was more important that pure armor.
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Failed Imagineer posted:This reads like an especially intense episode of Sesame Street, what loving lunacy That just goes along with the territory now that Sesame Street's on HBO.
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fatherboxx posted:Yes, even BMP-1 was developed with irradiated battlefields in mind In 1965 for sure, who knows if any are still capable. There was a video early in the war from Ukrainians of an abandoned one with a lot of the floor rusted through and missing, so you can see the ground.
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Rapulum_Dei posted:loving hell Russian state TV makes The Running Man look mild. Better not stop sniffing glue, then. And don't call me Shirley.
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1521802979619311618?s=20&t=cosfiUZLw_fDsJFdLUVdVw Z is the Russian MAGA
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Crimean Bridge chat. What if Qanon but for Russian bridges
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1521802979619311618?s=20&t=cosfiUZLw_fDsJFdLUVdVw I’ve seen this clip misinterpreted elsewhere, so I’d like to chime in that the subject is anti-war Russians - that NATO will be sterilising etc them as well, have it its [purported] way with Russia.
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1521802979619311618?s=20&t=cosfiUZLw_fDsJFdLUVdVw Shakhnazarov is supposed to be the less bloodthirsty guy on the show. Still, an awful propaganda asset, but his role is to toss somewhat moderate opinions around and occasionally be shouted at by his peers for not being crazy enough. Without even looking it up, I can tell he was probably replying to someone hyperbolising what they said. Fake edit: It's dumber than that, but still an out of context clip. Apparently he was saying that if the West defeats Russia, they won't spare the opponents of the letter Z along with the rest of the Russians, and then said the stuff from the clip. Before that he also said that he wasn't a big fan of the Z himself and would rather see red stars on tanks instead.
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https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1521895807280164864 those shock wave are something https://twitter.com/CanadianUkrain1/status/1521870648179580928 FishBulbia fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 4, 2022 |
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FishBulbia posted:https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1521895807280164864 Heads up there’s a good chance that that guy is a total loving goof posting from Toronto. Also I kind of feel dirty after watching that video of the loving Z-Logo. Need some Ukrainian hard bass to clear that out.
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Just so you know, this guy is probably a LARP'ing attention-seeking dumbass who is nowhere near Ukraine.
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Rigel posted:Just so you know, this guy is probably a LARP'ing attention-seeking dumbass who is nowhere near Ukraine. https://twitter.com/kaitsepolitsei/status/1521890217262817282  could this be the beginning of eu member states declaring the kremlin amplifiers persona non grata Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 20:20 on May 4, 2022 |
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Risky Bisquick posted:Interesting thread to scroll through, get a feel for the quantity of donations still flowing through. Crossing my fingers and hoping that this operation is legitimate. Donated a gunshot trauma kit.
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Risky Bisquick posted:If you ignore the self written stdh fanfic, most of the stuff they post is fairly accurate. I think Rigel makes a worthwhile comment. They got caught red-handed recently, and so everyone in the know will be either ignoring what they say, or spending their time to double-check it.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I think Rigel makes a worthwhile comment. They got caught red-handed recently, and so everyone in the know will be either ignoring what they say, or spending their time to double-check it.  https://twitter.com/ALugovskis/status/1521862232207859715 Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 20:25 on May 4, 2022 |
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Also I kind of feel dirty after watching that video of the loving Z-Logo. Need some Ukrainian hard bass to clear that out. I had the exact same reaction. Here's a palate cleanser, a 3 part video showing Ukranians recapturing villages near Kharkiv. No gore or significant violence, but a very interesting perspective of a Ukrainian infantry unit which is something that you rarely see. https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1521909679789645824 The operation appears to be mostly dropping some mortars on the Russians and watching them all run away. Later videos show them securing the area and checking out what the Russians left behind.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Trust, but verify Or just post a normal account saying the same stuff, this is like 2 hours old news reported by an assload of consistent accounts at by now. Edit: Long interview with someone who left Luhansk in February. https://english.nv.ua/nation/donbass-ukraine-resident-of-occupied-luhansk-tells-the-story-of-life-under-russia-50239435.html cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 4, 2022 |
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Wish they would do that in America.
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Risky Bisquick posted:If you ignore the self written stdh fanfic, most of the stuff they post is fairly accurate. Having to live in Russia is the 100% appropriate punishment for being a pro-Putin shill.
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https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1520164174189535233 Video of the operation to liberate the town is from telegram, posted to reddit. It's pretty tame combat wise, some shooting up a car from a long distance, and a RU soldier gets out to surrender. A lot of technicalshttps://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uic32e/kraken_group_released_a_long_video_showing_the/ cinci zoo sniper posted:Edit: Long interview with someone who left Luhansk in February. https://english.nv.ua/nation/donbass-ukraine-resident-of-occupied-luhansk-tells-the-story-of-life-under-russia-50239435.html "later I had to walk one and a half kilometers across the bridge over the Siversky Donets River. In 2015, part of the bridge was blown up and people had to literally jump over to the other side. Signs indicating "Mines" still periodically appeared on the bridge, i.e. it has not been completely cleared of mines, since 2014. The Ukrainian section of the bridge was repaired in 2019: there are benches for rest, phone charging stations, and Red Cross medical centers. The section of the bridge from the side of the LPR is broken asphalt and posters that read: "If you're tired of cooking Ukrainian borscht (traditional red-beet soup) – eat Russian cabbage soup!" " Join Russia, very good read though Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 4, 2022 |
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Rad Russian posted:True. Probably need better experts to chime in on how those systems are rated. I assume there's a scale? Since it was one of the Ms listed improvement areas I assume it's just marketing speak for "it's like before but now actually works!" NBC systems use overpressure to keep the cabin habitable. Air is drawn in through filters rated for the threat, then pushed into the cabin at a pressure that is greater than ambient air pressure. That's it, that's how they keep the cabin safe. If the filters don't get changed or are missing, or if the blower is damaged or not operating at high enough pressure to achieve overpressure, the system doesn't work. The cabin itself can be swiss cheese and as long as enough air can be pushed in by the blower to make up for the new ventilation then everything is fine. Once the battle damage affects the filters or blower, it's no longer NBC rated at all. Better protection could be something as simple as a redundant blower and filter system in case the primary fails. John_A_Tallon fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 4, 2022 |
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John_A_Tallon posted:NBC systems use overpressure to keep the cabin habitable. Air is drawn in through filters rated for the threat, then pushed into the cabin at a pressure that is greater than ambient air pressure. That's it, that's how they keep the cabin safe. If the filters don't get changed or are missing, or if the blower is damaged or not operating at high enough pressure to achieve overpressure, the system doesn't work. The cabin itself can be swiss cheese and as long as enough air can be pushed in by the blower to make up for the new ventilation then everything is fine. Once the battle damage affects the filters or blower, it's no longer NBC rated at all. Funnily enough some of the Russian vehicles have this exact same idea to maintain tire pressure in case they get a puncture to keep them mobile. It does not help when the tire catastrophically fails because they are 40 years old and have spent their entire life sitting on some junk yard exposed to weather.
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Count Roland posted:It's far from clear that Ukraine will be able to retake the parts of Donbass that separatists have been controlling for years. If Russian forces fortify themselves they could be very hard to dislodge. For Russia to keep Ukraine out they are going to need to maintain a lot of heavy equipment in the field and I am not sure if they can keep doing that long term. One, they’re eventually going to run out of serviceable equipment, two, they’re going to run out of trucks, ammo and other support, and three they’re going to need to train fresh troops to operate anything pulled out of storage and I’m not sure they can do that quickly enough. If they don’t keep sufficient heavy equipment deployed there will be a huge mismatch between them and Ukraine, who is far more likely to want to continue the fight - the defending nation always fights harder and longer. So in a situation where the Russian heavy units go home they’ll be left with just light infantry and DPR/LPR militia arrayed against a highly motivated force equipped with a bunch of NATO gear and well supplied. Complete Russian defeat is inevitable in that situation. The other factor is the sanctions which seem to be ratcheting up every week that passes. The fossil fuel embargo hurts the west but as time passes the west has more options available to soften the blow while Russia’s options shrink. Even if they wanted to I don’t think socially or economically (and therefore politically) they can sustain this for anywhere near as long as Ukraine.
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