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Jerkface posted:my domain would drop my opponent into a very tedious TVIV thread where all the posters have latched onto some inconsequential detail of a tv show and derailed all conversation to be exclusively about the inconsequential detail - it would be an "instant kill" domain because the other person would kill themselves immediately Not even sukuna can resist this. Nanamis domain would make you live through 20 years of salaryman life (He tries to use it o sukuna, it turns into american psycho)
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A domain expansion is basically an enclosed space created based off some mental image in your mind which is imbued with your cursed technique. The real meat of the DE is still your cursed technique but now you've trapped your opponent in a place where they are always hit by it/have to play by some rules before they get hit by it. So visually, Nanami's DE might look like an office (or maybe Kuala Lumpur) but the effect would probably be he can hit you anywhere on your body to critical strike or something. I demand you remain consistent to the imaginary rules when making jokes in this piece of fiction 
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May 10, 2022 14:47
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Nah namamis DE is basically personas negativity ghost from one piece where the character is crushed by nanami being disappointed in them
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May 10, 2022 15:52
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Asuron posted:Is pachinko just as unfathomable as this ? Yes. So much so that every time I have tried to enter a pachinko hall as a gaijin, i have been politely shuffled out the door because they know its wildly hard to comprehend and navigate. I once got to play and basically blew 1000 yen on watching pinballs fly and float while i caught like 2 of them and then it was over and I was politely escorted out. It's basically cricket to me, you'll only really get it if you grew up with it.
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May 10, 2022 18:12
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Being so bad at blackjack the casino blackballs me in pity
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Yes. So much so that every time I have tried to enter a pachinko hall as a gaijin, i have been politely shuffled out the door because they know its wildly hard to comprehend and navigate. I once got to play and basically blew 1000 yen on watching pinballs fly and float while i caught like 2 of them and then it was over and I was politely escorted out. pachinko parlors are also a cacophony of light and sound from the moment you walk in. I have been to raves more tranquil than pachinko parlors
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CharlestonJew posted:pachinko parlors are also a cacophony of light and sound from the moment you walk in. I have been to raves more tranquil than pachinko parlors They might be the loudest place in Japan you can walk into/by, the arcades aren't even as loud.
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Arcades sure are full of smoke though. I went to an arcade and there was so much fuckin' smoke from smoking smokers who smoked. EDIT: I mean in Japan, that is. I've been to arcades in Korea and there was far less smoke cause I don't think you're allowed to smoke in arcades (or indoors for that matter) in Korea. Even most (if not all) internet cafes had to get rid of their smoking section, and now they have a sealed booth where people can smoke at most. ZepiaEltnamOberon fucked around with this message at 03:24 on May 11, 2022 |
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This isn't pachinko. But I feel it simulates the sensory assault of a whole parlor very well. Incidentally this is my domain and it just makes people's heads explode scanners style. https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/256837979/movie480_vp9.webm?t=1623335377
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https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/2277/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-184?2022-05-13T14 wait what why are we switching now? and panda no!!!
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Holy crap that was a lighting fast transition.
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First time we see Panda's stage 3, and... instagibbed. I hope Panda won't die this easily though. Also: someone has beef with Sukuna? 
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Char posted:First time we see Panda's stage 3, and... instagibbed. I hope Panda won't die this easily though. Also: someone has beef with Sukuna? Kashimo when he first appeared mentioned wanting to find and challenge Sukuna. Kashimo is from 400 years ago (600 after Sukuna) and mentioned he could not find any proper opponents. So my guess is that seeking a challenge he agreed to be reincarnated by Kenjaku because Sukuna the King of Curses would be in the Culling game as well, and what better opponent than the King of Curses.
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Sukuna is at like 14-16 fingers out of 20 so he's not at full power but I can't imagine Sukuna not just dunking this guy effortlessly.
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Lamebot posted:This isn't pachinko. But I feel it simulates the sensory assault of a whole parlor very well. Incidentally this is my domain and it just makes people's heads explode scanners style.
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abroad in japan had a pretty good breakdown of pachinko's history, though it doesn't make the game itself any easier to understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBy2jemw4s
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Viz Translation https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-184/chapter/24581?action=read Kashimo seems super dangerous.
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I have renewed hope for Panda since this time around I actually parsed that he said anyone that meets his sister's eyes will die. Not that I think Kashimo is going to lose here but I think sister core has some kind of hypnosis ability and this current attack wasn't as damaging as it appeared or didn't connect at all despite the narrator's insistence. I have to have some hope, Panda deserves better than to be the Nappa of the team.
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Brought To You By posted:I have renewed hope for Panda since this time around I actually parsed that he said anyone that meets his sister's eyes will die. Not that I think Kashimo is going to lose here but I think sister core has some kind of hypnosis ability and this current attack wasn't as damaging as it appeared or didn't connect at all despite the narrator's insistence. I have to have some hope, Panda deserves better than to be the Nappa of the team. I honestly just think it means his Sister Core is very Aggressive.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I honestly just think it means his Sister Core is very Aggressive. Let me dream my dude. This is the 2nd time the sister core has eaten poo poo but you're probably right since Panda has been strictly melee with the sole exception of his unblockable drumming which he hasn't been able to use since the Kyoto Meetup.
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Kashimo is pretty cool. I'm not sure if Panda is out or not yet. His fight with Mechamaru was based around people underestimating cursed corpses too. I feel like his sister finally being revealed and instantly owned would normally indicate that's not the case but I fully expect Gege to play it how it currently appears. I didn't expect Panda to be owned so comprehensively so fast but the set-up for this colony has always been Hakari vs Kashimo. Hakari specifically came here to beat her when they were deciding which colonies to go to. The group thought the Angel was in this colony and Hakari said he'd go there as he's the strongest to deal with Kashimo. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the end of the Charles fight and instead just see Hakari arrive to save Panda. Then we'll finally have the jackpot reveal when Kinji's fighting Kashimo and looks like he's in a more dire situation than he ever was against Charles. I'm assuming Hakari will impress Kashimo as a modern sorcerer, I'm also hoping they'll give some insight on Hakari's unusual cursed energy texture. I've seen some people anticipate a death early on in the culling game to keep us on our toes and suggested Hakari as the most likely. I don't think it will happen though, at least not against Kashimo. Hakari's been hyped up by Gojo and Okkotsu as being on their level so dunking on some weakling before losing to Kashimo would be lame. It wouldn't make Kashimo seem next level strong to me it would just make Hakari feel like a narrative bust. Hakari's energy and vibe is also a really great addition to the crew and it would suck to lose that so soon.
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From what we have seen I don’t think Hakari can take Kashimo unless he gets super lucky.
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The lightning seems super powerful but it's not clear if Kashimo has to hit once for every strike or if as soon as they land once the target is positively charged for the remainder of the fight. Even so I don't think we've seen Hakari show us how good he is by far. He was able to beat Charles pretty easily hand to hand despite Charles being able to predict the future. I don't think Hakari will have an easy time or anything but I'd be surprised if he loses when they face off. I'm assuming a lot based on how complimentary Gojo and Okkotsu are about Hakari of course. After seeing Okkotsu handle a 3 v 1 essentially I'd be bummed if Hakari can't take on a single albeit impressive special grade. Glad also we've stuck to the theme of "X is insanely fast!" at least once per fight
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Also him actually showing us a domain expansion earns him my current arc MVP award regardless of Yuta soloing Sendai
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EmmyOk posted:The lightning seems super powerful but it's not clear if Kashimo has to hit once for every strike or if as soon as they land once the target is positively charged for the remainder of the fight. Even so I don't think we've seen Hakari show us how good he is by far. He was able to beat Charles pretty easily hand to hand despite Charles being able to predict the future. I don't think Hakari will have an easy time or anything but I'd be surprised if he loses when they face off. I'm assuming a lot based on how complimentary Gojo and Okkotsu are about Hakari of course. After seeing Okkotsu handle a 3 v 1 essentially I'd be bummed if Hakari can't take on a single albeit impressive special grade. For his attack, my assumption he can fire a lightning bolt once he tags someone, and I am also assuming the lightning bolt is more powerful depending on the number of charges. We clearly have not seen Kashimo go all out, and Strong as Hakari is Charles still got some hits in. From looking at them both and Hakari just seems like a bad match up. Kashimo seems like he is both faster and stronger in a slug fest which Hakari also likes, but being in close range with Kashimo is terrible for his opponent as his attacks can’t be blocked. (You get electrocuted and then he can freely hit you with a lightning bolt.) Also Maki said Okkotsu was overplaying Hakari.
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MonsterEnvy posted:For his attack, my assumption he can fire a lightning bolt once he tags someone, and I am also assuming the lightning bolt is more powerful depending on the number of charges. That tracks for sure. I’m just wondering if once the lightning lands it resets their charge to null. Not that even getting hit once is a particularly good outcome for anyone. Kashimo is a nasty fight for anyone who fights in close I think with weapons or not. Hakari at least has ranged attacks with the doors (and I’m assuming balls) outside his domain that he didn’t use on Charles. I don’t see how Hakari wins either with what he’s shown so far but I’m curious how tanky he is. I don’t doubt my Queen but I have more faith in Gojo and Okkotsu rating him because Hakari definitely has a personality type she’d hate imo. Either way I’m super keen to see what happens with Kashimo. I desperately want to see someone from 400 years ago experience Private Pure Love Train
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On paper right now I'd rate Kashimo as a slightly worse version of Naobito; possessing superior speed to his opponents which robs them of initiative, and having an unblockable technique. What's better here is that Kashimo's cursed energy alone can guarantee a ranged attack once the conditions have been met. And he still hasn't shown his actual CT and potential Domain or anti-domain techniques and he's likely to have the latter because even 400 years ago sorcerers were more into PvP than the modern era. Hakari for his part hasn't really been going all out by any stretch against Yuji or Charles. Like Higuruma his domain seems geared towards creating a win condition rather than being the win condition like modern domains. So him busting it out early in the fight isn't him being desperate or anything he's just mostly being an rear end to Charles. But really Hakari's CT just doesn't seem that good. His sliding doors have been dodged by literally everyone he's used them on and if he can throw little pachinko balls that's also really lovely. Having rough CE also doesn't seem nearly as potent as electric CE because it's still blunt damage it just hurts a bit more than normal. I honestly found Higuruma's Gavel more impressive because it can change sizes to facilitate a lot of situations. Yuji only survived so long because of his crazy durability I imagine most other sorcerers get splatted like bugs. I don't mind Yuta praising him but unless we see a serious Hakari really dominate I think Kashimo is going to roll him up and light him up. Not that I doubt both Gojo and Yuta's estimations of Hakari but he's only strong relative to modern sorcerers. Kashimo for all we know was the cream of the crop of his time.
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Brought To You By posted:On paper right now I'd rate Kashimo as a slightly worse version of Naobito; possessing superior speed to his opponents which robs them of initiative, and having an unblockable technique. Let’s not forget that he hits super hard, I don’t think Naobito could effortlessly rip Panda’s arm off or punch a hole through him.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Let’s not forget that he hits super hard, I don’t think Naobito could effortlessly rip Panda’s arm off or punch a hole through him. To be fair, Dagon is our only comparison and he tanked Nanami's critical hit attack without even a broken arm like was the case with Mahito. Outside of that he kicks strong enough to split an eel shikigami in half so I really don't doubt he could dismember a less physically durable opponent like a normal sorcerer.
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Brought To You By posted:To be fair, Dagon is our only comparison and he tanked Nanami's critical hit attack without even a broken arm like was the case with Mahito. Outside of that he kicks strong enough to split an eel shikigami in half so I really don't doubt he could dismember a less physically durable opponent like a normal sorcerer. Naoya was presented as being around the same level as Naobito and I am pretty sure he would not be able to either. Sorcerers can get pretty durable with their reinforcement.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Naoya was presented as being around the same level as Naobito and I am pretty sure he would not be able to either. It bears repeating that our only point of reference here is a special grade curse (who can heal their bodies without even needing RCT and aren't human to begin with) with presumably the highest physical resistance among the 4 with the exception of Jogo who I think Gege said was the strongest of them and the only people to wound him were Gojo, who is broken, and Sukuna who is equally broken. Nanami and Naobito are both people I can easily see breaking a human or cursed doll arm either through raw strength or their cursed techniques. I mean the only reason the tattoo guy survived against Nanami is because he literally has the power to survive bullshit as long as he has enough luck stored up. He died the second that ran out.
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Hanami is more durable then Jogo, just not as powerful or fast. Choso and Maki did not have holes punched in them by Naoya. Panda can reinforce himself well from what have seen, (Remember unlike a normal cursed corpse Panda can use everything a sorcerer can) and I just can’t see Naoya brutalizing Panda as easily as Kashimo did (Though I am pretty sure Naoya or Naobito would win still).
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Yeah I think Gege said that if Jogo would have died if he'd taken the hits that Hanami had taken (but also that Jogo probably wouldn't have been hit cause he's way faster than Hanami?). Namely that Yuji's Five Black Flashes and Todo's Playful Cloud hit would have killed Jogo, but Jogo would not have gotten hit by them. Hanami was also stated as holding back in that fight cause they were not supposed to kill anyone.
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Brought To You By posted:On paper right now I'd rate Kashimo as a slightly worse version of Naobito; possessing superior speed to his opponents which robs them of initiative, and having an unblockable technique. What's better here is that Kashimo's cursed energy alone can guarantee a ranged attack once the conditions have been met. And he still hasn't shown his actual CT and potential Domain or anti-domain techniques and he's likely to have the latter because even 400 years ago sorcerers were more into PvP than the modern era. e: on rereading the text says "like electricity" so I guess Kashimo really is just separating RCE from CE energy and the lightning is produced from that rather than them creating lightning first and separating charges. I am still not certain that isn't their technique though or that they'll have one on top of that but we will see. I agree Hakari's technique in isolation is pretty bad though lol. I was thinking when rereading the previous chapter that we're never going to see the doors hit anyone. Now that we know his technique outside of his domain is presumably just the doors and balls it's not that good. I am hoping there is more to it but I don't think that's likely. If he's just really good hand to hand like Itadori then that can carry him pretty far especially considering the edge on his energy. I wonder if DE is just something Hakari can do a lot more easily than others so he can use it multiple times a day like Gojo. I disagree with you that Hakari's only strong relative to modern sorcerers but not older ones. That may be the case of course but I don't think we can reliably infer it yet. Gojo and Yuta compare him directly to themselves in both cases, not to other modern sorcerers. We've seen Yuta crush a bunch of old sorcerers and obviously Gojo would be even more dominant. I think you can qualify both sets of praise of course. Yuta seems pretty self-deprecating and modest so it's not hard to see why he rated Hakari as potentially better than himself even if it's not true. Gojo's rating also is hard to take as gospel just because of how far beyond everyone else Gojo is it's hard to take it seriously when he says they'll be on his level some day. Gojo's birth fundamentally changed the entire Jujutsu society which the other two absolutely did not or have not yet. Though on that final point it's worth remembering limitless and the six eyes are known quantities whereas Yuta and Hakari are not. All that said I don't think Gojo or Yuta would have said about another sorcerer (like Naobito or people on that level) what they said about Hakari which to me counts for a lot. As much as I love Panda I really hope we get Hakari vs Kashimo next week instead of Panda chuckling and telling Kashimo they activated his trap card. EmmyOk fucked around with this message at 11:52 on May 16, 2022 |
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Hakari vs Kashimo is going to be good, complicated modern technique (turbo Japanese pinball) vs a simple but powerful one (become lightning). Panda is apparently a Grade 2 sorcerer so it's not surprising to see the gap between them to be so large but Kashimo really demolished him while apparently going easy. Dude probably went around 1-shotting every sorcerer he encountered after taking a glimpse of their abilities. Elemental techniques seem to be quite rare in the modern era, I wonder what happened.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Hanami is more durable then Jogo, just not as powerful or fast. I don't actually think Naoya is on par with his father to be honest because he carries a knife around like a chump but more seriously he just comes across as much less experienced. Naobito didn't even flinch when put in a domain, has the appropriate counter-technique, and overall sound judgement. Naoya's the whiny son that expected to be put in charge even though I'd bet his uncles are stronger than he is overall it's just that projection sorcery is hard to counter so he felt secure in that. EmmyOk posted:I disagree with you that Hakari's only strong relative to modern sorcerers but not older ones. That may be the case of course but I don't think we can reliably infer it yet. Gojo and Yuta compare him directly to themselves in both cases, not to other modern sorcerers. We've seen Yuta crush a bunch of old sorcerers and obviously Gojo would be even more dominant.
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