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Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

Charity Porno posted:

Sucks for anyone being responsible to hire people but my company last summer got so scared shitless of the Great Resignation they gave everyone in the whole office a 10 percent raise one day, completely out of the blue lol

My company could give everybody a 20% raise and full remote right now and that would only slow the bleeding. The average employee at my office is making roughly 60% of prevailing market wages.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Stuff that's confusing the ever living gently caress out of me.
At the stamping shop i work we have high volume jobs and low volume jobs. High meaning we make a fuckton of parts per run and low meaning we make a few parts per run. High volumes don't run all that often because we make so many at a time. Recently we started running out of space to keep all of the dies in house, so we moved a bunch to our storage building across the street. Those dies moved were the low volume jobs that we run two times a week or more. So now we have to go to the other building, get the die, bring it back to run, then take it back to storage. Two days later repeat the process. Meanwhile high volume jobs sit in house for months on end untouched. Why the gently caress didn't we send some of the high volumes to storage instead of wasting time and effort going back and forth.

The bosses are so loving stupid at scheduling they change the job lists constantly so we can never prep for anything. And quite often will have us stop in the middle of a job, swap everything over and run a bit off a different job, then stop and swap everything back to finish the first job. It doesn't make any sense. and then they bitch about all the overtime pay they have to shell out because we're working 55 + hours a week.

We buy all of our equipment off of auctions and then wonder why it breaks. Including the last "new" press we bought from a scrapyard and have dumped more money into getting it to run than if we'd bought an actual new press. We bought a box truck with metal shavings in the oil. "I'm sure it's nothing serious, it runs fine". Yeah, that explains why it's sitting abandoned in the lot now because the engine seized. We bought a stand up hilo, why? Because it was too good a deal to pass up. Yeah, because the wheel bearings are shot, one of the legs is broken, and it can't pick up anything we need it to.

We're having a new building built that will house the administration offices from up front and our die build room. The current die build room will be for the welders so we can stuff some more presses in and increase production. That's nice. Where is all this increased production going to go when it's made since our outgoing areas already overflow with parts waiting to ship?

We installed a ten ton crane to replace the 5 ton we had because we need to run bigger coils of steel, changeovers between coils take too long. You know, instead of telling the die setters to stop loving off and do their job we spent another couple hundred grand on a crane to get bigger coils in that can't be stacked so now they take up a massive amount of space

Best move they ever did for stupidity was when we were working 10 hour days 7 days a week. People were getting burned out and pissed and the management response was to hold a meeting and tell us "These are the hours we're working. Don't like it, there's the door" Those exact words. And then the management sat around trying to figure why half the staff quit

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 7, 2022

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Tinestram posted:

My company could give everybody a 20% raise and full remote right now and that would only slow the bleeding. The average employee at my office is making roughly 60% of prevailing market wages.

I'm lucky that I work for a pretty decent corp, as corps go. We went full office WFH mid March 2020 and by July they announced "Productivity has actually increased so we're closing the office permanently." They now lease almost all the building to other companies and just have one small set of desks and 1 conference room for team meetings that you have to reserve and it has to legitimately be the type of thing you can't do remotely.

They've also given us a 10 dollar/week "office stipend" permanently for supplies, and at the end of 2020 gave everyone a pretty decent bonus for "toughing this out."

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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chglcu posted:

I hadn’t thought about that game for years, but seeing the full phrase put the voice in my head. Checked it in a video and it sounded exactly the same as my mind had recreated. Thanks for keeping that useless poo poo around, I guess, brain.

Bonus round, where are your house keys?

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

Outrail posted:

Bonus round, where are your house keys?

Heh, if I hadn’t literally just walked in the door I wouldn’t be able to tell you.

Kuiperdolin
Sep 5, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

At lunch one of my colleagues claimed to have seen his "death certificate" and "signed it". After some mocking and prodding it turns out he was talking about his life insurance policy.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

SocketWrench posted:

Stuff that's confusing the ever living gently caress out of me.
At the stamping shop i work we have high volume jobs and low volume jobs. High meaning we make a fuckton of parts per run and low meaning we make a few parts per run. High volumes don't run all that often because we make so many at a time. Recently we started running out of space to keep all of the dies in house, so we moved a bunch to our storage building across the street. Those dies moved were the low volume jobs that we run two times a week or more. So now we have to go to the other building, get the die, bring it back to run, then take it back to storage. Two days later repeat the process. Meanwhile high volume jobs sit in house for months on end untouched. Why the gently caress didn't we send some of the high volumes to storage instead of wasting time and effort going back and forth.

The bosses are so loving stupid at scheduling they change the job lists constantly so we can never prep for anything. And quite often will have us stop in the middle of a job, swap everything over and run a bit off a different job, then stop and swap everything back to finish the first job. It doesn't make any sense. and then they bitch about all the overtime pay they have to shell out because we're working 55 + hours a week.

We buy all of our equipment off of auctions and then wonder why it breaks. Including the last "new" press we bought from a scrapyard and have dumped more money into getting it to run than if we'd bought an actual new press. We bought a box truck with metal shavings in the oil. "I'm sure it's nothing serious, it runs fine". Yeah, that explains why it's sitting abandoned in the lot now because the engine seized. We bought a stand up hilo, why? Because it was too good a deal to pass up. Yeah, because the wheel bearings are shot, one of the legs is broken, and it can't pick up anything we need it to.

We're having a new building built that will house the administration offices from up front and our die build room. The current die build room will be for the welders so we can stuff some more presses in and increase production. That's nice. Where is all this increased production going to go when it's made since our outgoing areas already overflow with parts waiting to ship?

We installed a ten ton crane to replace the 5 ton we had because we need to run bigger coils of steel, changeovers between coils take too long. You know, instead of telling the die setters to stop loving off and do their job we spent another couple hundred grand on a crane to get bigger coils in that can't be stacked so now they take up a massive amount of space

Best move they ever did for stupidity was when we were working 10 hour days 7 days a week. People were getting burned out and pissed and the management response was to hold a meeting and tell us "These are the hours we're working. Don't like it, there's the door" Those exact words. And then the management sat around trying to figure why half the staff quit

A lot of this sounds like the last brewery I worked at. Much smaller scale, but owner made a lot of similar, incredibly dumb, scheduling and layout decisions that made no sense and slowed production/caused needless stress. He was also cheap as gently caress and bought lots of lovely used equipment that got foisted on us.

A lot of people in charge of manufacturing don't really understand the importance making and sticking to basic production or that getting a run going means set up and break down time.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
My ex worked for a major medical device manufacturer for a few years. They would go months on end doing 60 hours/week (6 10 hour days.) They'd just have a constant flow of people getting hired, seeing how poorly it was run, then bailing. This was in addition to a really high attrition rate.

Meanwhile they had a draconian attendance policy, where despite having sick time, if you called in more than twice per quarter, they'd put you on "final warning" and any more callouts for THE ENTIRE YEAR would result in dismissal. And they actually enforced it too.

One week, her line ended up making the wrong part for 3 loving days straight. The manager, who was in charge of what her team made, didn't get in any trouble, but her entire line including my ex, were put on "final warning" for somehow not knowing the assignment was the wrong part. It came to a head when finally after a really grueling M-F, they had a team meeting just to tell them that if they all didn't come in in their previously scheduled off Saturday, theyd be fired. My ex had enough, and she finally just quit like id been encouraging her to for months. She no-showed and they had the gall to call her Monday and ask why she wasn't in the building lol

Internet Cliche
Oct 18, 2004
Ninja Robot Pirate Zombie

WaPo posted:

RICHMOND — Gov. Glenn Youngkin is ending the liberal telework policies that have been in place for employees since the start of the coronavirus pandemic, billing the move as a way to make the state government more innovative and customer-friendly.

All employees will be expected to return to in-person work full-time by July 5, unless they’ve been granted an exception for health or other reasons.

“We know that creative, innovative, and effective solutions for all Virginians occur with regular, in-person interaction by our incredible workforce here in the Commonwealth,” the Republican said in a statement Thursday announcing the new policy.

Many Virginia employees have been allowed to telework since early 2020, when fears of the coronavirus shuttered public and private workplaces across the country.

Youngkin built his successful campaign for governor last year partly on the premise that Democrats had gone overboard with pandemic shutdowns and restrictions, including the extended closure of schools and the suspension of walk-in services at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

Youngkin campaigned hard against mask mandates in schools and issued an executive order on his first day in office rescinding a vaccine mandate imposed on state workers by his Democratic predecessor, Ralph Northam.

But his action on remote work is not out of step with more liberal jurisdictions nearby. Public employees in Maryland and D.C. have been back to in-person work since July.

Under Youngkin’s new policy, state employees will be allowed to seek exceptions for health reasons or other personal considerations, and Youngkin said his new policy “supports the use of telework where appropriate.”

But senior administration officials will have to sign off on any exceptions. Only an agency head can approve any request to telework one day per week. A Cabinet secretary must sign off for two days per week. Three or more days a week will require permission from Chief of Staff Jeff Goettman.

“After listening to the needs of Virginians, discussing solutions with agency heads across government, and closely monitoring the pandemic, we are excited to welcome our employees in-person this summer,” said Youngkin, who encouraged state workers to not wait until then to return to the workplace.

Youngkin’s office did not have information on the share of the state workforce working remotely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/05/05/youngkin-virginia-covid-office-telework/

:jerkbag: The cruelty is the point here. Chase out everyone close to retirement, cut the payroll from people fleeing to private sector, and bring in political loyalists and yes-men for the newly open senior positions.

Plus Youngkin has a poo poo-ton of commercial real estate investments, so he's gotta keep that money flowing in.

Telework pre-covid only required direct supervisor approval (I think), but now the governor's office is getting involved. So maybe opening themselves up to some ADA lawsuits here?

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Color me surprised . Youngkin is an inflamed anal fistula who spends all day trying to figure out a new way to get the attention of Trumpu Sempai.

Dude should go play in traffic.

In Mariupol.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Since when is the chief of staff allowed to direct public employees

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Since hurf durf I’m the governor do what I say I’m basically a king make Virginia great again.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Even places around me that are decent jobs suddenly bleed employees when they announced "No WFH back in office", so most places backed off of that and it's usually a hybrid now.

The ones that stuck with it you see a lot of top level people pulling the "I guess no one wants to work anymore" card.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

bobjr posted:

The ones that stuck with it you see a lot of top level people pulling the "I guess no one wants to work anymore" card.

On some level they must be able to look around themselves at all the other companies getting on with stuff and mentally append "...for me." to that phrase.
Even if it's only at 4am when the coke has worn off and they are alone in the darkness, inside and out.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Atopian posted:

On some level they must be able to look around themselves at all the other companies getting on with stuff and mentally append "...for me." to that phrase.
Even if it's only at 4am when the coke has worn off and they are alone in the darkness, inside and out.

Oh, it's still going to be everyone else's fault. Other employers are being too indulgent! Poaching! After all, they themselves can't possibly be wrong!

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Atopian posted:

On some level they must be able to look around themselves at all the other companies getting on with stuff and mentally append "...for me." to that phrase.
Even if it's only at 4am when the coke has worn off and they are alone in the darkness, inside and out.

They don't say for me out of a sense of contrition, but of indignance and unfairness, Like a spoiled child.

Internet Cliche
Oct 18, 2004
Ninja Robot Pirate Zombie

evilpicard posted:

Since when is the chief of staff allowed to direct public employees

That struck me as odd too so then I looked into it. From the Code of Virginia:

quote:

The Governor shall be the Chief Personnel Officer of the Commonwealth. [...]. The Governor may employ personnel assistants and employees necessary to carry out [chapter referring to personnel]. The Governor shall have the following powers and duties relating to state personnel administration:

And then it goes on to describe the roles of an HR department. Virginia has a part-time legislature, I'm not sure they could bring up a law until January. And since Virginia is "#1 for business", even if the Dems sweep the elections, I'm not expecting much from them.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

I just wanna get paid my value, or even just a few hundo more for now to account for inflation, etc. but it all depends on how well my beer sells for the company. Except they're putting off doing outside sales again and their existing sales strategy is scattered and nonsensical. Fuuuuuuuuck.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Charity Porno posted:

Meanwhile they had a draconian attendance policy, where despite having sick time, if you called in more than twice per quarter, they'd put you on "final warning" and any more callouts for THE ENTIRE YEAR would result in dismissal. And they actually enforced it too.

Holy cow that's really bad. My MegaCorp has issues but I've never had a problem with our sick days, I think if you are out for more than 3 days you need a doctor's note but that's not unreasonable. They even changed the reasons they could be used so when I needed to help a family member dealing with someone in the hospital I could use my time without a hassle.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Holy cow that's really bad. My MegaCorp has issues but I've never had a problem with our sick days, I think if you are out for more than 3 days you need a doctor's note but that's not unreasonable. They even changed the reasons they could be used so when I needed to help a family member dealing with someone in the hospital I could use my time without a hassle.

Yeah my corp gives 10 sick days a year and you're encouraged to use them for mental health as needed also.

It's funny, I'm on the eastern side of the US and I've been with my company 16 years. When I started, we were owned by a Chicago-based firm and everything was lovely in that corporate Office Space way. We were bought several years back by a huge multinational in California and since then it's become a great place to work. The cultures were so different

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.
I'm pretty sure I've posted it before, but one of my jobs 20 years or so ago gave something like two sick days for the entire year and being even a second late used one. That plus the 12 hour rotating factory shifts for like $7 an hour meant I didn't last long there.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
We accrue 4 hours of sick leave per pay period, and like a lot of places if you're out more than 3 days you'll need a doctor's note. Prior to 2006 every 8 hours you accrued could be used to purchase a month's worth of insurance so if you retire before Medicare kicks in you would still have coverage. Then from 2006-2013 any sick accrued they'll put into an HSA for you. Post-2013 you don't get dick for it. There's no limit to the amount you can accrue but you lose it all when you leave.

Strangely, since this policy has gone into effect people seem to get sick a lot in the months before they retire... :thunk:

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Weird to get oddly accusing gchats from HR that start with "are you working today?" Yes... would have thought my replying to that email you sent half an hour ago would be a clue about that.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Hyrax Attack! posted:

Weird to get oddly accusing gchats from HR that start with "are you working today?" Yes... would have thought my replying to that email you sent half an hour ago would be a clue about that.

There’s one particular supplier we have who keeps phoning me up to ask if people on my team are working, because he emailed them ten minutes ago and hasn’t had a response. I hate it, he’s just trying to grass them up, and if I don’t answer the phone he’ll just keep going up the chain complaining until someone listens to him.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"


it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

Rockman Reserve posted:

it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

That really sucks. Have you looked into games at all? The industry definitely has its share of problems, so definitely not a panacea or anything, and you’ll run into bigots everywhere, but the studios I’ve been at have all been respectful of trans people as far as I can tell. Of course, I’m cis and probably don’t have an accurate perspective on it, but places seem to at least be trying to do right in that area.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Rockman Reserve posted:

it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

The War Crime company I work for would be more than happy to at least talk to you as we have issues hiring for all the jobs we reopened and have made workplace diversity a major objective. The problem is getting past the drat algorithms so a human sees your resume. I applies to my same job twice without realizing and only got through the second time because I tweaked my cover letter to game it a bit harder.

gwarm01
Apr 27, 2010

chglcu posted:

I'm pretty sure I've posted it before, but one of my jobs 20 years or so ago gave something like two sick days for the entire year and being even a second late used one. That plus the 12 hour rotating factory shifts for like $7 an hour meant I didn't last long there.

So when you come in one second late and your boss pulls this poo poo can you at least turn around and leave? Or do they charge you 8 hours and still expect you to work?

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

gwarm01 posted:

So when you come in one second late and your boss pulls this poo poo can you at least turn around and leave? Or do they charge you 8 hours and still expect you to work?

As I recall (it’s been a very long time), you would still work and get paid for the day, you just lost the allowed absence.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Was talking to a coworker about poo poo and I mentioned that I guess the manager hates me and he responded with "Does he like anyone?", so at least it's not just me I guess.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Rockman Reserve posted:

it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

I don’t know where you are based, but the giant STEM corporation I work for is huge on unconscious bias and literally challenges every hiring decision anyone makes at every level to make sure it’s not based on any biases. If you can stomach being part of a huge machine, PM me and I can tell you all about it. We’re always expanding and looking for people in loads of different fields.

Mzuri
Jun 5, 2004

Who's the boss?
Dudes is lost.
Don't think coz I'm iced out,
I'm cooled off.

Rockman Reserve posted:

it's really really cool hearing how strong the job market is for employees right now as I limp into my third month of fruitless job-searching

turns out the strong job market may not be so strong for trans people in STEM fields, who knew :suicide:

Every company I know employing people in STEM fields are hurting for qualified employees, and they are *really* hurting for those elusive diversity hires.*

Maybe have a professional advise you on your pitch? Sounds like it could myabe use some improvement. I'm sure it'll happen soon :)

*My job and network is in Europe, but my US colleagues in our STEM megacorp are making the same noises.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe
We're in the middle of a network outage at work, so I went for a coffee. In the break room, I overheard a jokey conversation between two of the IT guys: apparently the giant candy-like red button in the server room, the one marked as "HALON GAS FIRE SUPPRESSION - EVACUATE AFTER RELEASE," the trigger for the gas that will smother any fire and/or person in the room... hasn't been hooked up to anything for the past 20 years.

How i wish there were a whisky dispenser in the break room.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

We're getting slammed with tickets because someone decided to force a BIOS update and also update the security checks our VPN does to ensure the BIOS is the right version before connecting, but not send out any notifications.

So people who have been using their PCs at home all day are suddenly getting kicked off the network with no explanation other than a big, scary, red "YOU HAVE FAILED POSTURE CHECK" message.

My team only found out what is happening because I'm on our VPN even here in the office because our network is so wonky that on the office LAN, Teams responds to all my contact searches with "Oops, we couldn't find them!"

MarxCarl
Jul 18, 2003

Dr. Gargunza posted:

We're in the middle of a network outage at work, so I went for a coffee. In the break room, I overheard a jokey conversation between two of the IT guys: apparently the giant candy-like red button in the server room, the one marked as "HALON GAS FIRE SUPPRESSION - EVACUATE AFTER RELEASE," the trigger for the gas that will smother any fire and/or person in the room... hasn't been hooked up to anything for the past 20 years.

How i wish there were a whisky dispenser in the break room.

Back in 2000, the fire alarms went off, and we had to evacuate the building at the company i was at. Come to find out, someone had come in to check out the Halon system in the server room and hit the button. The Halon system released the gas, and immediately cut the power to the servers. That guy was not invited back into the building.

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

MarxCarl posted:

Back in 2000, the fire alarms went off, and we had to evacuate the building at the company i was at. Come to find out, someone had come in to check out the Halon system in the server room and hit the button. The Halon system released the gas, and immediately cut the power to the servers. That guy was not invited back into the building.

Hey, cool, at least yours worked!

The only legit fire-related issue we've had was the time someone thumped a gas pipe in the warehouse with the business end of a forklift. Fortunately nothing exploded, but we did have to evacuate and mill around a cold parking lot for about 30 minutes in January.
(That guy was let go; the rumor was he'd been operating the forklift while high, which made me sad 'cos that sounds kinda rad, actually.)

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum
I work as a hearing reporter for the courts with small case judges, and this talk reminds me of one time where I had a perfectly normal hearing, guy comes into the room, argues his case before the judge, hearing concludes without issue, and as I'm wrapping up with the paperwork the security guard comes in and says "oh that guy was super high risk I was supposed to be in the room with you whoops sorry about that"

Haha good times, we have good times here

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

MarxCarl posted:

Back in 2000, the fire alarms went off, and we had to evacuate the building at the company i was at. Come to find out, someone had come in to check out the Halon system in the server room and hit the button. The Halon system released the gas, and immediately cut the power to the servers. That guy was not invited back into the building.
In one place I worked the big red release halon button was right next to and partially obscuring the small white door open switch. According to my induction the obvious had apparently only ever happened once, but that once is why they spent 10-15 minutes on that part of the induction.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Cthulu Carl posted:

We're getting slammed with tickets because someone decided to force a BIOS update

My ISP randomly decided to do firmware updates without a- letting anyone know, b - setting aside extra modems, or c- putting the local techs on standby.

Something like 2% or our stores were down for up to 24 hours while they scrambled to do damage control. I'm not a tech guy but like, how was that not 100% predictable

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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Splicer posted:

In one place I worked the big red release halon button was right next to and partially obscuring the small white door open switch. According to my induction the obvious had apparently only ever happened once, but that once is why they spent 10-15 minutes on that part of the induction.

How much time was wasted on those 15 mins per person vs the cost of paying someone to reinstall the big red button? Much less the cost of someone loving up again.

And had anyone ever thought to do the math on that?

You don't need to answer any of these questions.

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