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Finished Huron Blackheart: Master of the Maelstrom by Mike Brooks. Decent book, nothing extraordinary but pretty good nonetheless. Most of the plot is about chaos dudes scheaming against each other like skaven, which is far more entertaining to me than the usual bolter porn tbh. Huron also has a cool 'Magnificient Bastard' moment. Mike Brooks writes decent astartes renegades but he's no ADB, I wish GW would send him a truck full of money and get him to write ork stuff non-stop.
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Fehervari is so good and we need more, now.
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May 11, 2022 13:22
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Miguel Prado posted:Fehervari is so good and we need more, now. I still gotta read his story in that successor chapter anthology
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May 11, 2022 15:05
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Fehervari is great. I hope he gets published outside of GW because the contractually required descriptions of space marine equipment etc never sit well in his thoughtful stories.
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May 11, 2022 15:26
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So I'm working my way through Gotrek and Felix V4, and noticed a funny thing. These novels, along with the Blackhearts Omnibus, Witch Hunter Omnibus, and the Heroes of the Empire Omnibus, were all written when Storms of Chaos was a thing, before the 8th edition retcon to make room for The End Times. Does anyone have a list of which Warhammer Chronicle novels technically take Storms of Chaos into a ccount, and which ones retcon it to make room for The End Times? Obviously all the End Times novels are the latter, but I'm wondering if up to the End Times novels all the other ones were pre-8th Edition. Enjoying Nathan Long's work a lot.
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May 11, 2022 15:29
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Chas McGill posted:Fehervari is great. I hope he gets published outside of GW because the contractually required descriptions of space marine equipment etc never sit well in his thoughtful stories. He puts his spin on it though, I'm pretty sure one of the Angels Resplendent has painted the Mona Lisa onto his pauldron, though it's not described so explicitly. Their gear and how it changes becomes another part of their story. But yeah I do feel something like Requiem Infernal is kinda wasted being marketed and sold not just as a Warhammer book but an Adepta Sororitas book. Like Spiral Dawn is marketed as a Genestealer Cult book. If they released a short story anthology called The Dark Coil and rebranded the main novels around that, it would go a long way I think. Him writing in his own universe would work great too. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 15:47 on May 11, 2022 |
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May 11, 2022 15:42
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Brendan Rodgers posted:He puts his spin on it though, I'm pretty sure one of the Angels Resplendent has painted the Mona Lisa onto his pauldron, though it's not described so explicitly. Their gear and how it changes becomes another part of their story. Which, intentional or not, represents the biggest and funniest middle finger possible to the "books exist only to sell models" crowd. Who is ever going to have the balls to try and paint an Angels Resplendent army?
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May 11, 2022 16:30
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Mad respect to whoever manages to pull it off though
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May 11, 2022 16:55
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Here's the passage I was thinking of, I really don't think this is spoilers, I'm interested in your interpretations of which paintings are on these pauldrons and I'll spoiler mark it just in case. One of them makes me think of the Mona Lisa so the other ones are intriguing me too. They're more likely to be references than copies. From her position she cannot see their left pauldrons, but those on the right are magnificent, each adorned with a unique and masterfully rendered painting. The warrior on the left plays host to a landscape of mighty fjords overlooked by a white fortress whose towers pierce the clouds. The one on the right bears the portrait of a woman whose beauty derives entirely from the mystery of her smile. But it is the central giant whose artwork touches Asenath most profoundly. His composition is an abstract of geometric shapes that glimmer with delicate hues. Its superficial simplicity hints at a limitless subtlety that Asenath has never imagined before, but her spirit has always yearned for. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 17:30 on May 11, 2022 |
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May 11, 2022 17:13
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Can you just jump into Siege of Terra with the current book, or is it nigh impossible without the earlier books? Also I’m assuming book 8 will be Q1 2023 at the earliest, right? Loving the Cain book now (especially with Penelope Ann Rawlins as a snarky editor). She has the right tone for the role. Valdor is great too. Hell Illyrium was great too, even if only 30 minutes long.
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May 11, 2022 17:27
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boredsatellite posted:Mad respect to whoever manages to pull it off though Yeah, that would be legit awesome. No idea what you would do for the shifting hues their armour is described with. Maybe those colour shift paints?
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May 11, 2022 17:35
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Improbable Lobster posted:I still gotta read his story in that successor chapter anthology I came in here to mention this. If you've read The Reverie you should definitely read the short story in Successors (it's set after). It's really good. In fact, that whole anthology is good and worth getting. Much better than most anthologies BL puts out and it's almost all interesting chapters. Exorcists have a story as do the Minotaurs and the chapter with the wolverine-style bones coming out of their arms. Basically all the really cool unique chapters are in there. BL really does seem to have realized that the fanbase doesn't want more Ultramarines bolter porn, we want to explore the really cool niches in the lore. Marshal Prolapse posted:Can you just jump into Siege of Terra with the current book, or is it nigh impossible without the earlier books? I mean you can, but I would read them all. There are some gems and even the not so good ones have their good parts and are also not nearly as bad as the bad stuff in the mainline Heresy books. I've really enjoyed the Siege series as a whole and I think they've done a pretty good job of capturing the scale and horror of it. If you like space battles the first book is one of the best in the BL library IMO and you don't want to skip Saturnine as it's got some of the best scenes of the Heresy (Camba Diaz holding the bridge is one of my all time favorite scenes for example). Book 8 is going to be split in two volumes, but after this next book I expect a novella so maybe next summer for first volume of book 8 unless they speed things up. We will probably get the last novella in between the two volumes is my guess although I would prefer they do it after and make it an epilogue set in the palace with all the primarchs left alive being sad bois.
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May 11, 2022 17:48
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Here's the passage I was thinking of, I really don't think this is spoilers, I'm interested in your interpretations of which paintings are on these pauldrons and I'll spoiler mark it just in case. One of them makes me think of the Mona Lisa so the other ones are intriguing me too. They're more likely to be references than copies. Comedy option for the first: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adolf_Hitler_-_Schloss_Neuschwanstein.jpg
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May 11, 2022 18:34
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Comedy option for the first: Haha that might actually be it for real. Would also support NihilCredo's post about that part being a "middle finger".
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May 11, 2022 18:47
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NihilCredo posted:Who is ever going to have the balls to try and paint an Angels Resplendent army? 
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May 11, 2022 18:54
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NihilCredo posted:Which, intentional or not, represents the biggest and funniest middle finger possible to the "books exist only to sell models" crowd. Who is ever going to have the balls to try and paint an Angels Resplendent army?
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May 11, 2022 19:03
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May 11, 2022 20:12
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It is always amazing to see the work of someone who is at the top of their field. Like holy poo poo is that good.
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May 11, 2022 20:13
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Almost finished rereading Prospero Burns and I forgot just how much Abnett uses wet-leopard growl. It's incredibly jarring and obvious he was quite proud of himself for that turn of phrase and nobody told him no in the editing process.
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May 12, 2022 05:40
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holy poo poo
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D-Pad posted:Almost finished rereading Prospero Burns and I forgot just how much Abnett uses wet-leopard growl. It's incredibly jarring and obvious he was quite proud of himself for that turn of phrase and nobody told him no in the editing process. Has somebody actually counted these? I remember reading it after hearing about this and I noticed it… twice?
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May 12, 2022 08:19
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16 times, according to some random Redditer I just googled.
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NihilCredo posted:Which, intentional or not, represents the biggest and funniest middle finger possible to the "books exist only to sell models" crowd. Who is ever going to have the balls to try and paint an Angels Resplendent army? I reckon it might be a nod to John blanche's extreme hard on for the Mona Lisa   
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Deptfordx posted:16 times, according to some random Redditer I just googled. There's also several variations throughout. There was a wet-leopard snarl in the part I read last night. It's probably between 20-30 total which is a whole lot for a weird turn of phrase that stands out in one book.
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Searching the book's Kindle edition yields a total of 18 occurrences of leopard-somethings. Mostly growls, all but one of them wet (and one even frothing!), with the occasional snarl/purr and a single chuckle thrown in for good measure. 
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May 12, 2022 17:31
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D-Pad posted:There's also several variations throughout. There was a wet-leopard snarl in the part I read last night. It's probably between 20-30 total which is a whole lot for a weird turn of phrase that stands out in one book. I definitely remember seeing quite a few variations on the theme, but that’s not the same thing as literally the same words. Feels like people are lumping them all together for meme purposes, which imo isn’t anywhere near the same level of badness.
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May 12, 2022 17:32
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its a sex thing isnt it maybe dude subcontracted a bit to ian watson
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Is the snarl wet as in full of spittle in the throat that is snarling, or is the leopard snarling because it's wet and that's why it sounds extra pissed off?
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May 12, 2022 23:06
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Both. It has a cold.
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What's the reading order for Fehervari's books?
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kim jong-illin posted:What's the reading order for Fehervari's books? Well... it's called the Dark Coil for a reason  High quality: https://www.mediafire.com/view/vjxc3ta8gzxig6d/Dark_Coil_Map.jpg/file And this article: https://www.trackofwords.com/2020/10/31/a-travellers-guide-to-the-dark-coil/
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NihilCredo posted:Which, intentional or not, represents the biggest and funniest middle finger possible to the "books exist only to sell models" crowd. Who is ever going to have the balls to try and paint an Angels Resplendent army? Someone with a laser printer and some sheets of decal paper ? Marshal Prolapse posted:Can you just jump into Siege of Terra with the current book, or is it nigh impossible without the earlier books? I'm going to not only join the chorus of nope in response, but I'll also suggest the last Heresy novel, Titandeath, as something that should be included for the full Siege experience. And you don't want to skim your way to the big finish. Two of the Siege books are weak, lots of people are down on...I think it was The Last Wall, and I don't think anyone liked Mortis without reservations. But even the weaker books have their strengths, and the good ones are some of the greatest stories Black Library has ever told. Don't skip, savor.
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I read Spears of the Emperor. It's good.
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The Warhammer Horror stuff is good yeah? Because when it comes to Warhammer body horror and atrocities I'm entirely numb. Reading passages about superhumans literally eating babies like 'heh that's kinda wacky'. But I am super interested if they finally managed to hire someone who makes all this stuff, you know, horrifying again.
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The good ones aare very good yeaah. Some of it is weak or predictable but some of the recent ones like The Bookkeepers Skull, The Oubliette and The Reverie are excellent
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DaysBefore posted:The Warhammer Horror stuff is good yeah? Because when it comes to Warhammer body horror and atrocities I'm entirely numb. Reading passages about superhumans literally eating babies like 'heh that's kinda wacky'. But I am super interested if they finally managed to hire someone who makes all this stuff, you know, horrifying again. Have you read The Dark Coil yet? The actual Warhammer Horror label seems to have come about because of Fehervari writing horror and it being unlabelled for most of his books (imagine someone buying Fire Caste thinking they are getting a book about Tau action figures when it's actually a psychological horror story about an Imperial Guard unit that leads into an exploration of Chaos and damnation). Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 18:18 on May 14, 2022 |
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There is body horror, but it's a more horrifying approach than your standard tentacles.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Have you read The Dark Coil yet? It’s just heart of darkness in 40K, that’s it. I like fehervari and this was a good idea but let’s not pretend it’s not 100% Conrad start to finish
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I guess I am mostly just thinking about Fehervari's stuff yeah lol. I saw his name a bunch from nerds who say he actually writes horror Warhammer well but I've also seen nerds describe Primarchs talking to each other as emotionally heartfelt so I'm hesitant to believe them. Haven't read any of his stuff yet so I think I'll correct that.
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heart of darkness in 40k, the odyssey in 40k when are we gonna have von clausewitz in 40k? what about the marquis du vauban? 40k sun tzu?
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