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newts
Oct 10, 2012

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Can I please get some book recommendations?

I mostly read sci-fi or sci-fi adjacent stuff lately. I'm waiting for my library's e-book copy of Children of Dune to come available in 8 weeks.

What I'm after most at the moment is something like Douglas Adams, Tom Holt, Terry Pratchett, Christopher Moore (but his latest stuff is not great), Jasper Fforde. Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless.

Stuff I don't want right now: difficult to read, understand, deal with writing or subject matter (I save that stuff for winter); Philip K Dick, Margaret Atwood, Harry Harrison (although I love Bill the Galactic Hero and the West of Eden trilogy), or hard scifi.

Don’t know if this will fit what you’re after because it is rather long and convoluted, and not really mindless. To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis was a delightful, fun read. And very sci-fi adjacent, rather than strictly sci-fi.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


newts posted:

Don’t know if this will fit what you’re after because it is rather long and convoluted, and not really mindless. To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis was a delightful, fun read. And very sci-fi adjacent, rather than strictly sci-fi.


External Organs posted:

Brandon Sanderson's Skyward series is YA science fiction that super meets the "Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless" requirement. The last book comes out either this fall or the next, I can't remember. They are fun romps imo.


Kvlt! posted:

Interstellar Gunrunner series (disclaimer: I might be biased because the author is an old friend) is excellent and exactly up your alley. It's a space opera trilogy with some cool weird concepts and a lot of humor.


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There's more comic fantasy than comic sf.

Try Robert Asprin's Myth series (first five or so books only), Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart. The Android's Dream by John Scalzi.

Gripweed posted:

The Ciaphas Cain series. Don't let the fact that it's Warhammer put you off, it's a fun adventure series with a likable rogue lead, not grimdark at all.


Franchescanado posted:

Funny, quirky, clever, books:

Trout Fishing In America by Richard Brautigan
The Magic Christian by Terry Southern
Norwood by Charles Portis
Miami Blues by Charles Willeford
something by Kurt Vonnegut. Mother Night or Cat's Cradle maybe.

If you like horror, maybe try a Jeff Strand book. I still think Graverobbers Wanted (No Experience Necessary) is very funny.

Thanks yall. I'll look into these and see what's available as ebooks from my library.

I read To Say Nothing of the Dog a few years back and enjoyed that. Connie Willis can go either way for me, I like most of her shorter fiction, Belwether was just kind of eh, but I found Passage kind of difficult to get through. Very engaging but the very slow first person account of the protagonist's death was tough. The last scene was a tearjerker.

No opposition to fantasy either, although the only kind of fantasy I can ever summon interest in is the funny stuff like Pratchett, Holt, Moore. I'll try anything though.

Maybe this is the summer to rediscover Vonnegut. I'm a big fan and read all of them in college. My wife and I have a full collection of all of his stuff, even had some readings at our wedding by the minister (his idea!).

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Can I please get some book recommendations?

I mostly read sci-fi or sci-fi adjacent stuff lately. I'm waiting for my library's e-book copy of Children of Dune to come available in 8 weeks.

What I'm after most at the moment is something like Douglas Adams, Tom Holt, Terry Pratchett, Christopher Moore (but his latest stuff is not great), Jasper Fforde. Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless.

Stuff I don't want right now: difficult to read, understand, deal with writing or subject matter (I save that stuff for winter); Philip K Dick, Margaret Atwood, Harry Harrison (although I love Bill the Galactic Hero and the West of Eden trilogy), or hard scifi.

Stanislaw Lem. Check out Memoirs of a Space Traveller.

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Can I please get some book recommendations?

I mostly read sci-fi or sci-fi adjacent stuff lately. I'm waiting for my library's e-book copy of Children of Dune to come available in 8 weeks.

What I'm after most at the moment is something like Douglas Adams, Tom Holt, Terry Pratchett, Christopher Moore (but his latest stuff is not great), Jasper Fforde. Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless.

Stuff I don't want right now: difficult to read, understand, deal with writing or subject matter (I save that stuff for winter); Philip K Dick, Margaret Atwood, Harry Harrison (although I love Bill the Galactic Hero and the West of Eden trilogy), or hard scifi.

Dungeon Crawler Carl might be perfect if you can look past the trashy genre and fantasy trappings. Combine Running Man with Evil Dead and a lovely MMO and you've got close to an idea of what Dungeon Crawler Carl is about.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
So like Another day, another dungeon?

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Can I please get some book recommendations?

I mostly read sci-fi or sci-fi adjacent stuff lately. I'm waiting for my library's e-book copy of Children of Dune to come available in 8 weeks.

What I'm after most at the moment is something like Douglas Adams, Tom Holt, Terry Pratchett, Christopher Moore (but his latest stuff is not great), Jasper Fforde. Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless.

Stuff I don't want right now: difficult to read, understand, deal with writing or subject matter (I save that stuff for winter); Philip K Dick, Margaret Atwood, Harry Harrison (although I love Bill the Galactic Hero and the West of Eden trilogy), or hard scifi.

Robert Rankin? He's not my favorite, but he's another Brit working in the same vein as Adams, Holt, and Pratchett, so you may enjoy him.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

Azhais posted:

So like Another day, another dungeon?

I cant believe someone else read this. I picked it up as a kid back in like 1991. It isn't a great book or anything, but it is a great send-up of the party-based dungeon crawl (and what happens after) with some ljteral laugh-out-loud moments. Never read the sequels so I can't say if they're any good, though.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Is there a book parallel to Lendon's Soldiers and Ghosts but for China? If you know China well but not that book: it's a social history masquerading as a military history, trying to get at the question of "what was the self-perception and social norms of being a warrior/soldier in Ancient Greece & Classical Rome?" The reason I'm asking about China specifically is that I have some understanding of premodern Chinese representations of soldiers by scholar-elites, who generally looked down on the military pretty hard, but obviously your stereotypical premodern Chinese soldier (Guan Yu, Yue Fei, Zhu Yuanzhang) are seemingly not-even-dismissive of this, seemingly from a completely different culture. I wanna know what that culture was like.

Tl;dr - is there a good book about how Chinese soldiers viewed themselves pre-1900?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Are there any good novels about or set during the Bubonic Plague / Black Death?

I've got Between Two Fires, and The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson seems like an alt. history take on it?

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Franchescanado posted:

Are there any good novels about or set during the Bubonic Plague / Black Death?

I've got Between Two Fires, and The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson seems like an alt. history take on it?

Kind of. The Years of Rice and Salt is set in an alt history where the Black Death was much more severe and virtually depopulated Europe, so when the Mongols show up they can just stroll in and take over. The rest of the book is examining how history developed from there.

As for other Black Death books, I liked Connie Willis's Doomsday Book, although reaction seems to have been more mixed around here.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

Selachian posted:

Kind of. The Years of Rice and Salt is set in an alt history where the Black Death was much more severe and virtually depopulated Europe, so when the Mongols show up they can just stroll in and take over. The rest of the book is examining how history developed from there.

As for other Black Death books, I liked Connie Willis's Doomsday Book, although reaction seems to have been more mixed around here.

I liked Doomsday Book too, for what it's worth. I thought it gave a nice grim depiction of how the plague might have affected a small town, and I liked the counterpoint of the modern epidemic.

Though I completely misunderstood the sections about bell-ringers and thought they were ringing handbells. So the rehearsals where everyone was dipping at the knees and swaying their whole bodies seemed unnecessarily dramatic.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

Are there any good novels about or set during the Bubonic Plague / Black Death?

I've got Between Two Fires, and The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson seems like an alt. history take on it?

The Plague by Albert Camus, if you wanna have a good think about how absurd this all is, horrifically.

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
I'm interested in reading nonfiction that paints a vivid picture of everyday life in the global south. It's not a dealbreaker if it's by a white guy who's relaying the experiences of people he talks to while abroad. It can involve war and atrocity and governmental repression, but the focus has to be on how it affected normal people.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



That's half the world. Are you looking for books about specific places or one book covering the entire global south?

also are you looking for a specific time period or just modern times?

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Franchescanado posted:

Are there any good novels about or set during the Bubonic Plague / Black Death?

I've got Between Two Fires, and The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson seems like an alt. history take on it?

Neal Stephenson's "The Baroque Cycle" takes place during the plague, but there's a lot of it and a lot of that isn't plague-centric.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


FPyat posted:

I'm interested in reading nonfiction that paints a vivid picture of everyday life in the global south. It's not a dealbreaker if it's by a white guy who's relaying the experiences of people he talks to while abroad. It can involve war and atrocity and governmental repression, but the focus has to be on how it affected normal people.

Dancing in the Glory of Monsters is about the Congo War and consists primarily of interviewing people affected by the war. The first one is a Rwandan general but that's one of the least "normal" people in it, the vast majority are farmers and casual soldiers and minor village notables like priests.

e: Gotta be clear that it is a rough time, emotionally

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020

Kvlt! posted:

That's half the world. Are you looking for books about specific places or one book covering the entire global south?

also are you looking for a specific time period or just modern times?

Any single country or region, 1800 or after.

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug

Franchescanado posted:

Are there any good novels about or set during the Bubonic Plague / Black Death?

I've got Between Two Fires, and The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson seems like an alt. history take on it?

Hamnet by Maggie O'Farrell is interesting - it felt like a pretty realistic portrayal of the times. It's a biography of Shakespeare's son, and of Shakespeare, and parts of it are excellent. The ending, in particular, is very good.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

FPyat posted:

I'm interested in reading nonfiction that paints a vivid picture of everyday life in the global south. It's not a dealbreaker if it's by a white guy who's relaying the experiences of people he talks to while abroad. It can involve war and atrocity and governmental repression, but the focus has to be on how it affected normal people.

It may be too sweeping but The Open Veins of Latin America is quite beautiful.

There was one centred around Cuban propaganda artists in the 60s and 70s but I can’t recall the name now. Google fails me.

Nothing to Envy sounds like exactly what you’re looking for. That’s kind of Barbara Demick’s genre so take a look at her other stuff as well.

Blood River by Tim Butcher ends problematically but otherwise includes a lot of slice of life in DRC in the late 2000s in the gap between the end of the Second Congo War and the current sporadic conflicts.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Senjuro posted:

Out of that list I only read Spin, it wasn't what I was looking for though. It was a character focused drama with some sci-fi in the background. I want just pure science and engineering porn like The Martian and Project Hail Mary. Yes, those have some additional elements to them but they're secondary and that's fine.
Really late on this, but Flight of the Dragonfly.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I've never read Wittgenstein and think it's about time. Where should I start?

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

I've never read Wittgenstein and think it's about time. Where should I start?

Philosophical Investigations

Really there's only two books, that and the Tractatus. In theory Wittgenstein wants you to read the Tractatus then PI but like...Tractatus is pretty hard and he got mad at people for not understanding it at all so IDK.

rollick
Mar 20, 2009
Five Books did an interview with Peter Hacker, who has written a bunch of books on Wittgenstein.

His recommendations are not to dive right in to the primary books, but to situate yourself with some introductory material and biographical details first.

quote:

It’s impossible to understand without deep knowledge of his great predecessors, Frege and Russell. It is too difficult to recommend to anyone who is not familiar with their work. I have chosen memoirs and intellectual biographies that describe his life and work. He had an intensity about him that was apparently quite awesome and fairly frightening. Wittgenstein had a passion for the subject that was extraordinary. It’s difficult to separate out his life from his work, which is true of all great geniuses.

I thought I would pick an introductory book that is accessible to everyone, then the canonical biography, then a volume of essays by acquaintances and friends of his about Wittgenstein himself and about their relationship to him, which is of considerable interest. Finally, a couple of books that will introduce Wittgenstein’s philosophical thought in relatively easy stages. What I hope that will do is to gain people’s interest in this great thinker and stimulate their appetite for more, so that they can pursue matters further by themselves.

Anyway this is his list:

Ludwig Wittgenstein by Edward Kanterian
Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius by Ray Monk
Recollections of Wittgenstein by (ed.) Rush Rhees
Wittgenstein by Severin Schroeder
The Principles of Linguistic Philosophy by Friedrich Waismann


This part made me laugh:

quote:

Are there particular anecdotes that come to mind?

Some of them are harsh. If I remember correctly, Fania Pascal has an operation and Wittgenstein goes to visit her. He asks how she’s feeling, and she says: “I feel like a run-over dog”. He replies, “how do you know what a run-over dog feels like?” It’s not exactly the sort of thing one should be saying under the circumstances, but it’s altogether typical of him.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Lol drat, I gotta read five books first huh. Alright, let's do this

(thanks for the recommendations!)

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Lol drat, I gotta read five books first huh. Alright, let's do this

(thanks for the recommendations!)

I think this is the first time I've seen https://fivebooks.com/ mentioned in the thread, and I can't recommend it highly enough. Their Twitter feed is an excellent follow, and they have a list of expert recommendations on a lot of topics.

Feral Integral
Jun 6, 2006

YOSPOS

Looking for something not too dry on the history and evolution of languages, specifically their similarities. Maybe like a history of cognates or something like that. Any language is fine, but also any good books about Latin and its derivatives would be cool, too.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

rollick posted:

This part made me laugh:

Re: anecdotes, there's a whole book written about the time he threatened a guy with a poker. Too bad it's written by horrible BBC guys (their fascism only shines through in like one or two passages).



e: (It's not really just about the incident, it gives a lot of background on Wittgenstein and his work.)

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Can I please get some book recommendations?

I mostly read sci-fi or sci-fi adjacent stuff lately. I'm waiting for my library's e-book copy of Children of Dune to come available in 8 weeks.

What I'm after most at the moment is something like Douglas Adams, Tom Holt, Terry Pratchett, Christopher Moore (but his latest stuff is not great), Jasper Fforde. Amusing, quirky, clever, and somewhat mindless.

Stuff I don't want right now: difficult to read, understand, deal with writing or subject matter (I save that stuff for winter); Philip K Dick, Margaret Atwood, Harry Harrison (although I love Bill the Galactic Hero and the West of Eden trilogy), or hard scifi.

I'm late on this, but not yet 8 weeks late :) Interstellar Patrol 1 & 2 by Christopher Anvil are fun sci-fi adventure anthologies. The Trouble with Humans is also good. https://www.amazon.com/Christopher-Anvil/e/B001H6KKBU/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Looking for non-traditional post apocalyptic fiction, stuff like post apocalypse but in an alien or fantasy setting. Anything like that out there?

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Opopanax posted:

Looking for non-traditional post apocalyptic fiction, stuff like post apocalypse but in an alien or fantasy setting. Anything like that out there?

You read Oryx and Crake yet?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yep! Good suggestion though

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Opopanax posted:

Looking for non-traditional post apocalyptic fiction, stuff like post apocalypse but in an alien or fantasy setting. Anything like that out there?

James Blish's Black Easter / The Day After Judgement?

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Opopanax posted:

Looking for non-traditional post apocalyptic fiction, stuff like post apocalypse but in an alien or fantasy setting. Anything like that out there?
The big one is The Book of the New Sun.

If you've already read that, maybe The Night Land?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Those both sound good but not sure they're quite what I'm looking for. I'm thinking like post apocalypse stuff, Mad Max/Walking Dead etc, but on a world with wizards or something. I'm reading Last Exit right now and that's probably what put it in my head, stuff like that

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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I guess if you're desperate, most of the last book of the Dragonlance: Legends trilogy is kind of like that.

And I haven't kept up with Dragonlance since the early 90s but there's a lot of talk in the earlier books about an event called the Cataclysm which is basically the gods destroying the world, I'm certain some later books must be set in that time period.

E: there are 200 loving Dragonlance books 🤯

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Then move seamlessly into however many Shannara books there are!

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Opopanax posted:

Looking for non-traditional post apocalyptic fiction, stuff like post apocalypse but in an alien or fantasy setting. Anything like that out there?

Rebecca Roanhorse has a series that's Native American mythology inspired post apocalypse. It's our world but after the apocalypse, magic and gods are back. The first book is Trail of Lightning, I don't think the series is done yet if it matters to you. It's also YA and I personally wasn't wowed with it but maybe you'll like it more.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Opopanax posted:

Those both sound good but not sure they're quite what I'm looking for. I'm thinking like post apocalypse stuff, Mad Max/Walking Dead etc, but on a world with wizards or something. I'm reading Last Exit right now and that's probably what put it in my head, stuff like that

Jack Vance's Dying Earth series, sort of, but it predates mad max.

Any "dark sun" d&d licensed fiction is quite literally mad max but with wizards. Look up the art.

https://i.imgur.com/w1Bn5K0_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

ihop
Jul 23, 2001
King of the Mexicans
The Pelbar Cycle by Paul O. Williams doesn't have magic, but does take place in a post apocalypse America, though way after any knowledge of America or even the ancient apocalypse was lost. It's basically pre-colony America, with lots of hostile tribes and some mutants and wastelands stuff.

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Nov 8, 2018

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