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I mean, there are definitely some thematic elements that are associated more with one or the other -- fantasy is more often about the horrors of war and sci-fi is more often about what it means to be human, for example, but those aren't hard-and-fast rules either. But, the stuff I mentioned about Dragon Quest -- kings and curses and prophecies and Dark Lords that were defeated by a legendary hero but are coming back unless we do something about it, and so on and so forth -- is, I would argue, more representative of the idea of "fantasy" than "someone holds a sword". But the lines are blurry and the exceptions are many and a lot of stuff is both fantasy AND sci-fi and there's not much point in arguing it
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fantasy is when elves and dwarves
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Dawi from another hold arrive...tis a great day.
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The commonly-accepted definition for fantasy is "there has to be magic" I think Sci-fi is a little harder but really "sci-fi is when spaceships" isn't that unheard-of of a definition either
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imo scifi is about exploring a situation or question that is either facing or about to face society fantasy is about her small breasts shifted beneath the leather jerkin
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Are psionics fantasy , scifi, neither, or both
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fantasy: the men 100% have hairy bods, the women maybe do as well sci-fi: hair is forbidden
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Plank Walker posted:fantasy: the men 100% have hairy bods, the women maybe do as well that's why fantasy is better
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is bloodborne sci-fi?
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it's both because the first half is very hairy and the second half is very slimy
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Watched RRR last night, it loving ruled.
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Communist Thoughts posted:imo scifi is about exploring a situation or question that is either facing or about to face society Science fiction, famously, is never horny
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Communist Thoughts posted:imo scifi is about exploring a situation or question that is either facing or about to face society If the breasts aren't "fantastic" it's not fantasy, it's historical fiction. SDMH it's right there in the name and everything
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prescriptively, fantasy contemplates the known impossible as a means to either skip directly to examining a set of implausible social relations or a means to get the reader to lay aside their prejudices about the social relations depicted, while sf contemplates the possible but not yet seen or achieved to examine how it would affect social relations. descriptively, fantasy has distinctive hats while sf has distinctive helmets. a society which believes itself at the end of history can't write future history, only create a set of genre-written metaphorical galapagoses.
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loquacius posted:The commonly-accepted definition for fantasy is "there has to be magic" I think Baru Comorant is weird here being set in a completely different universe that's technologically largely in our past, but then features absolutely no supernatural elements (at least in the first book.)
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Primer is a sci-fi film and is set on earth and doesn't have a spaceship. It's also not very horny.
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The nicest thing about RRR is that general filmmaking proficiency in India is reaching high enough levels to appropriately pair up with it's larger than life scope.
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Genres aren't real.
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hm i dont think this discussion of defining the difference between science fiction and fantasy is goony enough but what else is there to discuss thats even goonier https://mobile.twitter.com/ronravegan/status/1534191299988840449
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Broke: Final Fantasy is actually sci-fi because there are robots Woke: Star Trek is actually fantasy because Captain Kirk fucks all the time
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Lord of the Rings, the most significant genre-defining work of fantasy as we know it today, is actually sci-fi, because nobody fucks
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Some Guy TT posted:hm i dont think this discussion of defining the difference between science fiction and fantasy is goony enough but what else is there to discuss thats even goonier the tiny controller my god i had forgotten
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targeted right at me when I was 14
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genre is a construct we use to connect and analyze ideas. furthermore, in sci-fi the specific term is "ephebophilia", whereas Some Guy TT posted:hm i dont think this discussion of defining the difference between science fiction and fantasy is goony enough but what else is there to discuss thats even goonier i've always wondered how Miss Loss feels about her deeply personal tragedy becoming such a comedy sensation
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Some sci-fi has magic in it but I can't think of any fantasy without it. Much to think about.Open Source Idiom posted:I wouldn't say homophobic, but it's certainly anti-kink and therefore inherently queerphobic IMO. Everything I hear about The Boys makes it sounds like a competent adapatation of typical Ennis stuff - the sexual politics seem part for the course then.
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YaketySass posted:Some sci-fi has magic in it but I can't think of any fantasy without it. Much to think about. Gentlemen of the Road Gormenghast The average goon's sex life
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Gentlemen of the Road isn't fantasy, it's historical fiction Like, I don't think anything with no magic/supernatural elements can even pretend to be fantasy if it takes place on historical Earth since the historical-fiction genre exists
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Lord of the Rings is the most important Catholic religious text originally written in English
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loquacius posted:Gentlemen of the Road isn't fantasy, it's historical fiction
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That's like saying near-future sci-fi isn't sci-fi unless it involves properly outlandish technology. Genres are all made up, historical fiction that isn't retelling confirmed events is close enough to fantasy to count imo and I'm fully aware that most will disagree but I just don't care.
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FFT posted:One of the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories takes place in iirc medieval Turkey, but obviously they get there and back via magic. Yeah, things can still be fantasy if they take place on Earth (that's what "low fantasy" is, as opposed to "high fantasy" which takes place in an original setting) but they really do need to contain fantastical elements
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Big Mad Drongo posted:That's like saying near-future sci-fi isn't sci-fi unless it involves properly outlandish technology. I mean yeah if your near-future sci-fi story doesn't involve any tech that doesn't exist on Earth it's, like, an airport thriller like, we have other genres that exist to describe the stuff you're talking about. This is dangerously close to faction b) from my original post
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where does the hit anime series cop craft fall on this spectrum where the premise is that faeries are real but theyre treated like space aliens in a contemporary setting
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Is Gravity a sci-fi movie? huh. Well I'll be
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Some Guy TT posted:where does the hit anime series cop craft fall on this spectrum where the premise is that faeries are real but theyre treated like space aliens in a contemporary setting how ACAB is it
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The science-fiction epic Gravity uses the fantastical technology known as "space suits" as a metaphor to ask an important question about human society: what if you got stuck in space and couldn't get back to Earth, man would that loving suck or what
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:how ACAB is it eh not particularly since the story is a wunza plot where a regular vice cop partners with a pedobait fairy
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