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quote:Then there's other poo poo that's completely lazy. Vader, simply put, doesn't fight like his character. Fighting is an expression of character as much as dialogue, walking, eating, or anything else the character does. Just briefly think about how Vader's character could reflect in the way he fights, and how it has in other Star Wars media, then look at that poo poo. I can accept Rambo in the Mortal Kombat game moving the way Sylvester Stallone has never moved, that's a concession to the needs of a fighting game. This has no such limitation. big time. darth vader does not do spins and twirls, he is physically beyond such acrobatics. he is a Frankenstein Monster, indefatigable and unrelenting. i did like Haydens little scenes but they fundamentally felt incongruent with the Vader parts. so yea this poo poo sucked rear end.
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Horizon Burning posted:also obi-wan draws on the power of baby leia and explodes his way out of mass of rock like a loving anime Horizon Burning posted:so obi-wan stabs vader in the chest and busts up his helmet, only to realize that anakin is truly dead (???) and then he just turns his back and walks away??? what
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It's actually kinda cool that every single character beat was something that already happened in Ep III, something inconsistent with the films, something inconsistent within the show itself, or some combination of the three Vader doing spin flips is so loving funny and stupid
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the one thing i don't think star wars has ever managed when someone beats up darth vader is to somehow make it feel not, well, pathetic. whether it's force unleashed or this obi-wan show, it's like the creators don't really get that vader - for all his best ever bad guy status and scary voice - is ultimately a half-dead dude in an iron lung. the moment he starts wheezing and stumbling about, it stops being heroic and starts being sad. in the case of the two i mentioned, i think that's somewhat the point. killing vader is the bad end in the game and in this obi-wan ultimately decides not to kill vader (inexplicably.) the tone of it just feels strange. i'm not sure how you'd square it beyond, y'know, not having that whole fight scene. we see in this series and in rogue one that vader spends a lot of his time as a torso!
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I thought the exchange between Obi Wan and Vader was rather touching. Still, Obi Wan probably shoulda killed him. Also, this poo poo already happened in Episode 3. This is redundant. sponges fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Jun 23, 2022 03:50
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My fav bit was when Obi-Wan met up with Jimmy Smits and Jimmy said "we can never repay you" and I thought "you should have said at the start there'd be no reward in it" They missed an opportunity to have Reva mention "his father Anakin Skywalker" or something in front of Luke, to fill in the backstory of how he knows his last name is Skywalker instead of being raised as Luke Lars
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sponges posted:I thought the exchange between Obi Wan and Vader was rather touching. Still, Obi Wan probably shoulda killed him. Yeah Ewan and Hayden killed it with their performances, but the entire show was pretty pointless and adds nothing of weight to the mythos.
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Nightmare Cinema posted:Yeah nah this poo poo was worse than uvalde
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the entire series was really bad but this episode was...okay? Like if you don't care about it cohering with the other episodes, the cartoons, or being well done - that is, if you've properly set your expectations after The Force Awakens, let alone the first loving five episodes of this slop. It's redundant on purpose. The entire thing with Disney Wars is selectively reusing, recanonizing elements from the original to retell the same story over and over again,.
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Jun 23, 2022 04:00
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“You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker. I did.” Is a legit good line
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Obi wan's rock spam reminded me of vampire survivors. So yeah that was the best part for sure
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs jk sheevens
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Valve Steam Deck posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you Star Wars fans are really rude
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I don’t think I can bring myself to finish this crap. Edit: On the flip side, I’ve started watching Rebels for the first time and I’m quite enjoying it.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:I don’t think I can bring myself to finish this crap. It's good pulp. They tie character growth to the plot really well. They even manage the 'Everyone is getting more backstory' series of episodes in season 2 while still going on cool and fun adventures.
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How long between this fight and Rebels? Obi Wan didn’t hesitate to kill the gently caress out of Maul.
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moosecow333 posted:How long between this fight and Rebels? Obi Wan didn’t hesitate to kill the gently caress out of Maul. 7 years or so between the this fight and the one in Rebels. Timeline is something like 19 years before ANH - Revenge of the Sith, Bad Batch, Clone Wars S7 14 - Fallen Order 10 - Solo 9 - Kenobi 5 - Rebels starts 1 - Rebels ends 0 - Rogue one, ANH. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Jun 23, 2022 07:09
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Ain't nobi-wan watch this garbage
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Halloween Jack posted:I immediately thought of how in ESB, Vader hits Luke with a box and they really sell how much it hurts. Here Vader gets pelted with enough boulders to brain a herd of elephants, and it's like Obi-Wan is spraying him with a hose. Typical weightless superhero stuff. The dumbest thing to me is that 5 minutes earlier Vader literally pulled a small mountain from Obi Wan's grasp and punted it across the battlefield. There's no way he couldn't shield himself from these tiny rocks. And I've said it before. Disney doesn't want Star Wars, it wants Star Heroes.
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CelticPredator posted:Star Wars fans are really rude  I don't know what that was but seriously what the gently caress Darth TNT posted:And I've said it before. Disney doesn't want Star Wars, it wants Star Heroes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj07qh51zPI
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Interesting idea: have Obi-Wan and Vader have their climatic duel in a location that presents certain stakes in an interesting environment. For example, on the rebel ship, so Obi-Wan has to protect the passengers from Vader. Instead they have the duel on a barren greenscreen planet. Interesting idea: have Qui-Gon appear to Obi-Wan in a meaningful location in at least somewhat dramatic way. Maybe Obi-Wan is going through some rocky terrain or looking back at the Lars homestead and Qui-Gon appears by his side. Instead Qui-Gon is just suddenly standing on some sand in front of Obi-Wan while he's riding a CGI fart camel. This is the essence of the show to me. They do everything in the most lazy way possible.
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So I like that the Empire now has hundreds of eyewitness accounts, literal incarceration records from their own prison, and other assorted proof that Bail Organa is working with notorious at large anti imperial terrorist Obi Wan Kenobi, and does nothing about it. Just completely forgets that this important government official is committing high treason.
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Oh God I agree so much on the sword fights. What made them think this halogen floodlight bullshit would be a good idea?!
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Vim Fuego posted:Ain't nobi-wan watch this garbage hell yes Valve Steam Deck posted:Yeah but that's not rude, this is rude How old are you OP
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Captain Jesus posted:Interesting idea: have Obi-Wan and Vader have their climatic duel in a location that presents certain stakes in an interesting environment. For example, on the rebel ship, so Obi-Wan has to protect the passengers from Vader. Is there any explanation for why Vader didn't kill Reva, or why Kenobi didn't kill Vader? I don't feel like I was missing some implied explanation. Darth TNT posted:And I've said it before. Disney doesn't want Star Wars, it wants Star Heroes. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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galagazombie posted:So I like that the Empire now has hundreds of eyewitness accounts, literal incarceration records from their own prison, and other assorted proof that Bail Organa is working with notorious at large anti imperial terrorist Obi Wan Kenobi, and does nothing about it. Just completely forgets that this important government official is committing high treason. The senate still exists at this point though and Bail is a senator. So much like irl I'm sure the Bail was just like "acknowledgement is a form of accountability" to the senate and they/the empire sent Bail Organa a bi-partisan reprimanding letter and some prominent Moff at that time was like "I am deeply concerned about this but now is not the right time to politicize these events" or whatever and that was that.
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Halloween Jack posted:Is there any explanation for why Vader didn't kill Reva, or why Kenobi didn't kill Vader? I don't feel like I was missing some implied explanation. Vader though the Grand Inquisitor was going to do it and the Grand Inquisitor thought Vader was going to do it, and neither wanted to lose face by asking. Halloween Jack posted:For me this is not so much in how they film the lightsaber duels, but in the way they discard the prequels and their criticism of the Jedi, make the whole Rebellion revolve around Jedi, make the Skywalkers the center of the entire series' narrative, and reduce all of the war and politics to "Ben is mad at Luke" interpersonal conflicts. It's like a CW superhero show. Yeah, this
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The future of entertainment is people standing inside a tiny round closet saying "it's beautiful" at footage of denuded, lifeless landscapes what purportedly count as "nature" projected on the walls
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Halloween Jack posted:Is there any explanation for why Vader didn't kill Reva, or why Kenobi didn't kill Vader? I don't feel like I was missing some implied explanation. For Reza, which is the only good fight scene in the show, Vader spares her because it's more insulting. He correctly gauges that she would rather die than be sent 'back to the gutter'. I appreciate the implicit point that Vader thinks the inquistors are stupid and doesn't give a poo poo about the whole 'capture them mutants' plot. (There's also an interesting ambiguity, as becoming an unaligned champion of the homeless is certainly the best course for Reza. Is Vader helping her?) Problem with all the other fight scenes is that they follow the same logic: they're entirely about insulting the other combatant, which is why it ends with the stalemate of Obiwan saying "ur a loser Darth" and Anakin rolling with the punches ("yes, I am a Darth! And I lost on purpose!"). SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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This is really, really, really good criticism. And also, I agree with you 100% about the lightsabers being too bright.
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That poor inquisitor almost got bested by one adult Skywalker and almost both Skywalker children
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Mameluke posted:The future of entertainment is people standing inside a tiny round closet saying "it's beautiful" at footage of denuded, lifeless landscapes what purportedly count as "nature" projected on the walls I mean, that's just gonna be the future of "being in nature" in general, I think
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:For Reza, which is the only good fight scene in the show, Vader spares her because it's more insulting. He correctly gauges that she would rather die than be sent 'back to the gutter'. From the other thread: SuperMechagodzilla posted:The show has a real problem of characters doing stuff that seems totally stupid, but there's a twist that what they were doing had a purpose that was totally underwhelming.
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Is weird how different is the reception of the Obi Wan show here in the thread compared to what Im seeing outside. In twitter and such Im mostly seeing positive reactions "wow awesome!!! this is real star wars!!!" etc , I havent watched it yet and probably wont so soon but from what Ive been reading about it, you guys are probably right
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Ingmar terdman posted:"I'll check the dune sea" and then starting to run into the desert was a fun gag  Elias_Maluco posted:Is weird how different is the reception of the Obi Wan show here in the thread compared to what Im seeing outside. In twitter and such Im mostly seeing positive reactions "wow awesome!!! this is real star wars!!!" etc I think a huge chunk of the fans out there only really know the movies and maybe Mando cause of Baby Yoda but just in passing. They do not know Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, etc etc. This is the best it can be apparently.
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Booka is worse in a pure sense but it's just a commercial for the new season of the puppet show so it's whatever Showbi could have been something cool - I think we kinda know that it was never going to be bold in any real way, but the algorithmic dialogue and the LED dome make it so bland. A few nice little lines and moments break through the grey, and there are a few moments of style, but eh. That makes it a much bigger letdown to me I have been tricked into eagerly anticipating Content from the folks at Lucasfilm for the last time. That's alright - I'll keep watching that garbage e: did they attempt to make vader's replacement mask look more like the Star Wars/rogue one mask? The costume def looks more like the ESB version Ingmar terdman fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I was befuddled when Reva's years-long plan to kill Vader turned out to be "sneak up behind him when he's alone." I will LOL forever that she ignites the saber and then screams and swings it instead of just igniting it through him.
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