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The USSR of 1939 was an axis power no matter how desperately self-proclaimed marxist-leninists in 2022 want it to be the bestest coolest place ever, betrayed by the west, forced to enable and fuel Hitler, sorry. Three sovereign nations conquered and forcibly russified, an attempt on Finland, the conquest and russificiation of eastern Poland and Moldova, eh, pretty axisy there Stalin. Speaking of forcible russification- I get that The Stans are a black hole of "uh, wars, taliban, idk man" to the western normie but I'm shocked no one in this thread has mentioned Kazuzturktajkyrgyzstan down below Russia. Fun fact: Kazakhstan is in the process of swapping the kazakh language to the latin alphabet as a response to being genocided into using cyrillic. In 2025 all kazakh kindergarteners will learn their letters in latin. Latin kazakh already exists, tbh, so it's more of a middle finger to Russia considering Kazakhstan Russia IV.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 00:51 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Kazuzturktajkyrgyzstan
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 01:01 |
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The Soviets: spain is a fascist axis power Also the soviets: Germany is a great partner in the west and ending the relationship would be tragic.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The USSR of 1939 was an axis power no matter how desperately self-proclaimed marxist-leninists in 2022 want it to be the bestest coolest place ever, betrayed by the west, forced to enable and fuel Hitler, sorry. Three sovereign nations conquered and forcibly russified, an attempt on Finland, the conquest and russificiation of eastern Poland and Moldova, eh, pretty axisy there Stalin. I don't think anyone is arguing that the USSR wasn't super bad, imperialist, genocidal, etc, just that they were doing their own thing rather than Hitler's thing. The pact was basically "we both really want to fight, but neither of us can afford it right now, so let's just get our affairs in order before we start". That's not an alliance, there is no mutual obligation, only an understanding that neither party will invade the other.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 06:52 |
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Phlegmish posted:Took me a few seconds to realize this wasn't a serious map. I mean, whoever heard of 'Basque'? Ridiculous A shocking amount of people reply not realising this. Kinda funny since the yellow immediately drew my eye to Parseltongue.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 06:58 |
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I agree that calling the Russia retroactively an member of the anti-communist axis is possible. But is a wide enough definition of Axis that you really have to include Finland and Spain as members of the extended axis before that. And that is just the second most politically loaded part of the map. Because it is very clear that occupied countries are divided between "side of the occupier" and "side of the populace" based on how the maker feels about that population. Most extreme is Ukraine, topically. They were part of the USSR during the whole MR-Pact period, and later they got conquered by the axis and thus "joined" in the same way that Korea or Ethiopia did. Also: I am allied east Prussia. e: And btw. while Russia is complicated on the map. The true USSR is clearly indicated as being always part of the Allies. ee: Oh, god. I get it. This map means to imply that the MR-Pact was between Russia and the Axis while going around Stalin's SU-Government. So it must imply that Molotov and Stalin were uninvolved in the decision and thus blameless, clearly. VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Speaking of forcible russification- I get that The Stans are a black hole of "uh, wars, taliban, idk man" to the western normie but I'm shocked no one in this thread has mentioned Kazuzturktajkyrgyzstan down below Russia. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ukraine doing similar in the future as they (hopefully) recover from the war and become more integrated into the EU and isolated from Russia. Theres already some talk of it apparently.
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VictualSquid posted:I agree that calling the Russia retroactively an member of the anti-communist axis is possible. But is a wide enough definition of Axis that you really have to include Finland and Spain as members of the extended axis before that. Finland absolutely was in the Axis and the whole "separate concurrent but good war that just so happened to coincide with the nazi war, hmm woops seems nazi troops are invading Russia through our land, not us tho, we're good guys" poo poo is dumb as all hell. Romania has the same trajectory and killed far more nazis when they swapped back to the allies, but nobody is saying they weren't in the Axis. e: Cretaceous Earth in the Land Before Time cinematic universe Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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At the absolute least, the USSR and Germany were co-belligerents. I mean the Soviets didn't accidentally stumble into Poland, they weren't lost and trying to ask for directions
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:At the absolute least, the USSR and Germany were co-belligerents. I mean the Soviets didn't accidentally stumble into Poland, they weren't lost and trying to ask for directions There is no other interpretation of the map that makes sense to me.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 16:59 |
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Randallteal posted:You invade one country together with Nazi Germany, secretly divide the rest of eastern europe up with them, transfer them money, authorize German-supervised population transfers from your side of the border, and to mutually police it for dissident agitators and people start throwing all kinds of crazy labels around. Right, its an argument. But Ukraine and Belarus should both be red then.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:16 |
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The Soviets: spain is a fascist axis power Stalin's main concern in Spain: How do I get that spanish gold. Second, how do I kill as many foreign trotskiest as possible.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:19 |
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FishBulbia posted:Stalin's main concern in Spain: How do I get that spanish gold. Second, how do I kill as many foreign trotskiest as possible. "What do you mean there is an icepick shortage in madrid???"
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 17:56 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The USSR of 1939 was an axis power no matter how desperately self-proclaimed marxist-leninists in 2022 want it to be the bestest coolest place ever, betrayed by the west, forced to enable and fuel Hitler, sorry. Three sovereign nations conquered and forcibly russified, an attempt on Finland, the conquest and russificiation of eastern Poland and Moldova, eh, pretty axisy there Stalin. Ah, but according to this English lit professor, Poland technically didn't exist when the Soviets invaded, checkmate liberal.
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# ? Jun 27, 2022 18:25 |
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Guavanaut posted:Checks out though. I hate this map with a passion. It appears modern at first glance but has so many weird problems and anachronisms.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The USSR of 1939 was an axis power no matter how desperately self-proclaimed marxist-leninists in 2022 want it to be the bestest coolest place ever, betrayed by the west, forced to enable and fuel Hitler, sorry. self-proclaimed is my favourite political insult. Like they're lacking the official credentials to write "ML" in the twitter bio, gotta visit the ideology bureau and get their documents in order.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 09:10 |
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Peggotty posted:self-proclaimed is my favourite political insult. Like they're lacking the official credentials to write "ML" in the twitter bio, gotta visit the ideology bureau and get their documents in order. A dig at Stalinists might be more appropriate too, given who was in charge then & all that.
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# ? Jun 28, 2022 14:45 |
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Private Speech posted:A dig at Stalinists might be more appropriate too, given who was in charge then & all that. Marxist-Leninist and Stalinist mean the same thing. Marxism-Leninism was developed by Stalin.
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 00:30 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:Marxist-Leninist and Stalinist mean the same thing. Marxism-Leninism was developed by Stalin. I'd argue it doesn't, it was the descriptive word for soviet ideology stemming from Lenin until the end.
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 01:00 |
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I saw the google street car the other day, does anyone have any idea how long it might take to show up? I've seen answers ranging anywhere from ~24 hours to several months. It was probably the closest I've come to meeting a celebrity I'll ever get and I can't wait to show my friends
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Milo and POTUS posted:I saw the google street car the other day, does anyone have any idea how long it might take to show up? I've seen answers ranging anywhere from ~24 hours to several months. It was probably the closest I've come to meeting a celebrity I'll ever get and I can't wait to show my friends Did you moon 'em?
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Milo and POTUS posted:I saw the google street car the other day, does anyone have any idea how long it might take to show up? I've seen answers ranging anywhere from ~24 hours to several months. It was probably the closest I've come to meeting a celebrity I'll ever get and I can't wait to show my friends Dunno, they've been by our neighbourhood like four times since 2010; the most recent time was a week or two ago and the newst images that are online are still form 2018. (Back in 2010 they caught a younger me out for a walk with #1 kid, when he was a toddler. That's my legacy for posterity...)
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Carbon dioxide posted:Did you moon 'em?
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 10:42 |
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Debate & Discussion › politically-loaded maps: Streetview's automatic butt-scrubbing software
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 11:04 |
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I saw a dude taking a piss in brazil and it didn't scrub that but always does on helpful road signs it thinks are number plates.
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 11:09 |
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Is it strange to be jealous of this brazilian legend That's a legacy right there
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https://twitter.com/luxuryjeff/status/1541879588095250436
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I had no idea Oklahoma and Kansas are the same place!
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Big Texas strikes again
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The logos of the municipal office of every municipality in the Netherlands.
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.txl
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Carbon dioxide posted:The logos of the municipal office of every municipality in the Netherlands. Mediocrity overload
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Carbon dioxide posted:Did you moon 'em? I got a hank hill rear end so no
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# ? Jun 29, 2022 22:45 |
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Is Amsterdam’s coat of arms really just the symbol for porn
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# ? Jun 30, 2022 06:19 |
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I think my favourite is the random cloud of letters there in the north Also shout out to Boxtel for not just looking like a small company with bad product quality but also sounding like one
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They make a little box you put between your phone and the wall socket that allows you to speak to people from the Dutch Bible Belt, a bad idea.
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Starks posted:Is Amsterdam’s coat of arms really just the symbol for porn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdammertje
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Starks posted:Is Amsterdam’s coat of arms really just the symbol for porn
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Heroic Determined Merciful XXX
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