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Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I've been trying to get into A Head Full of Ghosts, and does this pick up at all? I'm about ten chapters in, right after the dad has confessed to taking Marjorie to a priest instead of her psych appointment, and it's not bad but I'm not gripped. The sibling stuff isn't clicking with me -- all I can think is that this is very watered-down We Have Always Lived In The Castle, which may just be because of the younger sister being named Merry, IDK

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sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Antivehicular posted:

I've been trying to get into A Head Full of Ghosts, and does this pick up at all? I'm about ten chapters in, right after the dad has confessed to taking Marjorie to a priest instead of her psych appointment, and it's not bad but I'm not gripped. The sibling stuff isn't clicking with me -- all I can think is that this is very watered-down We Have Always Lived In The Castle, which may just be because of the younger sister being named Merry, IDK

Imo it does ratchet up the dread but without trying to spoil anything you're a lot closer than you think with that comparison. I didn't enjoy the ending. It is very grim, but was in dire need of some editing.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Antivehicular posted:

I've been trying to get into A Head Full of Ghosts, and does this pick up at all? I'm about ten chapters in, right after the dad has confessed to taking Marjorie to a priest instead of her psych appointment, and it's not bad but I'm not gripped. The sibling stuff isn't clicking with me -- all I can think is that this is very watered-down We Have Always Lived In The Castle, which may just be because of the younger sister being named Merry, IDK

I haven't read it, but that's a pretty damning summary for me. I thought We Have Always Lived in The Castle was already some pretty weak tea, so this might just be borderline homeopathic.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Yeah, WHALITC really only works because the characterization is so drat good (and generally because Shirley Jackson's writing is a treasure), and especially that the kid voices feel real. These kid voices don't quite work for me? I dunno, I'm not to the DNF point, but this might be a "finish it and send it straight to Half-Price" book for me.

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I thought WHALTC was a very well written story, but the actual story part sucks. It’s like an elegantly painted still life : great on all the mechanics, but I’m just never gonna get emotionally invested in some peaches in a bowl.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I liked Head Full of Ghosts but the writing is pretty grating

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

any good investigative horror recs? Just finished The Relic and its sequel and while they were kinda fun, they also were a bit boring. I did like Agent Pendergast's vibe but it looks like the rest of the series dips away from horror and im not sure I will like them. The second book started to lose me when the characters were firing grenade launchers at homeless mole-people, never really felt tense

id also prefer if the novels werent explicitly pro-cop, but I imagine that can be difficult to find in the investigative genre

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



ScootsMcSkirt posted:

any good investigative horror recs? Just finished The Relic and its sequel and while they were kinda fun, they also were a bit boring. I did like Agent Pendergast's vibe but it looks like the rest of the series dips away from horror and im not sure I will like them. The second book started to lose me when the characters were firing grenade launchers at homeless mole-people, never really felt tense

id also prefer if the novels werent explicitly pro-cop, but I imagine that can be difficult to find in the investigative genre

O hey I read all those at a clip, drunk in Taiwan.

Have you checked out Night Film? That’s all investigation, no cops and more of an actual book-book.

Not perfect by any means, but very entertaining and seems up your street.

newts
Oct 10, 2012

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

any good investigative horror recs? Just finished The Relic and its sequel and while they were kinda fun, they also were a bit boring. I did like Agent Pendergast's vibe but it looks like the rest of the series dips away from horror and im not sure I will like them. The second book started to lose me when the characters were firing grenade launchers at homeless mole-people, never really felt tense

id also prefer if the novels werent explicitly pro-cop, but I imagine that can be difficult to find in the investigative genre

John Connolly’s Charlie Parker series? Not strictly horror, I suppose, but very dark supernatural goings-on.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

any good investigative horror recs? Just finished The Relic and its sequel and while they were kinda fun, they also were a bit boring. I did like Agent Pendergast's vibe but it looks like the rest of the series dips away from horror and im not sure I will like them. The second book started to lose me when the characters were firing grenade launchers at homeless mole-people, never really felt tense
Not strictly horror but I really enjoyed The Devil and the Dark Water by Stuart Turton. Dark dealings aplenty on a 17th century ship voyage, may contain demon. Also includes an eccentric detective.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jul 7, 2022

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

any good investigative horror recs? Just finished The Relic and its sequel and while they were kinda fun, they also were a bit boring. I did like Agent Pendergast's vibe but it looks like the rest of the series dips away from horror and im not sure I will like them. The second book started to lose me when the characters were firing grenade launchers at homeless mole-people, never really felt tense

id also prefer if the novels werent explicitly pro-cop, but I imagine that can be difficult to find in the investigative genre

Twenty Days of Turin is a little bit like that, investigative but from a non cop perspective. It's a weird little book, I'm not sure it's exactly what you're looking for.

ScootsMcSkirt
Oct 29, 2013

thanks for the recs everyone. Sorry I was pretty vague, but yeah, was looking for investigative horror novels with quirky or otherwise interesting detectives

Ill take the time to go through them and try to report back if i end up reading any of the books. Right away, The Devil and the Dark Water looks pretty cool tho

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





I recently signed up for Scribd (it fuckin whips, by the by) and I now have so many books to read that I'm dealing with some choice paralysis.

So I leave my hobby in your hands, horror thread. What am I reading next?

I've not read any of these books, and mostly added them based on thread recommendations.

The Chill - Scott Carson
The Flood - Meghan O'Flynn
Billy Summers - Stephen King
Elevation - Stephen King
The Institute - Stephen King
The Beautiful Thing That Awaits Us All - Laird Barron
Carrion Comfort - Paul Finch
Blackwater: The Complete Saga - Michael McDowell
Cold Moon Over Babylon - Michael McDowell
Pontypool - Tony Burgess
Some of Your Blood - Theodore Sturgeon
Experimental Film - Gemma Files
The Auctioneer - Joan Samson
Toy Cemetery - William W. Johnstone
The Elementals - Michael McDowell
Let the Right One In - John Lindqvist
Survivor Song - Paul Tremblay
Little Heaven - Nick Cutter
After the People Lights Have Gone Off - Stephen Graham Jones

sephiRoth IRA
Jun 13, 2007

"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan
My picks would be the beautiful thing that awaits us all, pontypool, and the elementals

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Experimental Film is up near the top of that list for me. Gemma Files is fantastic.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Has anyone read anything by Brom? I'm a little ehhh at the pretentiousness of a single name, but people seem to like their stuff (especially Slewfoot), but I'm curious if it's come up in here.

ravenkult
Feb 3, 2011


Well if it makes you feel any better he was an artist/illustrator first so that's where the single name business comes from. Not really that pretentious.

Mighty Eris
Mar 24, 2005

Jolly good show, eh old man?

a foolish pianist posted:

Experimental Film is up near the top of that list for me. Gemma Files is fantastic.

Could also be a decent recommendation for an investigative book that doesn’t foreground cops, seeing as how it’s about a research project instead.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Untrustable posted:

I recently signed up for Scribd (it fuckin whips, by the by) and I now have so many books to read that I'm dealing with some choice paralysis.

So I leave my hobby in your hands, horror thread. What am I reading next?

I've not read any of these books, and mostly added them based on thread recommendations.


<snip>

I'd start with Let The Right One In. If you like it, move on to most of the rest of Lindqvist starting with Handling the Undead and Little Star then probably the Himmelstrand trilogy. It's easy to look at his work as the horror equivalent of those Swedish novels starring sweater-wearing detectives, but the more consistent theme is slotting horror into a world that determinedly remains normal.

Yarrington
Jun 13, 2002

While I will admit to a certain cynicism, I am a nay-sayer and hatchet man in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another.

value-brand cereal posted:


A God in the Shed by J F Dubeau

First in a series. Duology, I think? I've only read this book and not the sequel. I liked the supernatural aspect and the folk horror. I wish the rest of the book was more like the beginning. It's kind of 'small town secrets and sins involving arcane rituals that are coming to a violent, blood conclusion'. It's more a gothic horror than high tension horror. Definitely creepy. I think it could be read as a standalone, but what I read of the sequel was pretty good. I should really finish it.


I just read this and it starts strong and while has some creepy, propulsive charm, none of the adult characters behavior really made any sense at all and the late attempt to explain it by introducing an unchangeable prophecy element was very dumb! Also if you're going to have every single adult in the town be in on it, you can make a pretty effective scene out of that. What you can't do is go one by one and have each chapter end with a twist of 'this person was in on it!' over and over again. I was straight up laughing at it by the fourth or fifth time. Has anyone read the sequel? I'm mixed on continuing because I found the ending unsatisfying and if the second ends with another pseudo cliffhanger I'll just pass.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

I think y'all are the people to ask. I want to reread Dracula, maybe an annotated edition. What's my best bet for that? I'd prefer a physical book if at all available, but if not my kindle awaits.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
I read The Haunting of Hill House and A Head Full Of Ghosts over the last three days and man; Hill house was witty and fun to read, but the story was just nothing, while HFOG kept me gripped with the plot but almost made me hurl at the dialogue

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



StrixNebulosa posted:

I think y'all are the people to ask. I want to reread Dracula, maybe an annotated edition. What's my best bet for that? I'd prefer a physical book if at all available, but if not my kindle awaits.

Dracula https://a.co/d/cjYlWE7


????

I’m not trying to snark, I literally just don’t understand the question. It’s a public domain book and super famous, copies are everywhere. The link is 20$ cause it’s a pretty hardcover but I scrolled by a bunch of 7$ paperbacks if that’s more your jam. There’s even an illustrated one but I wasn’t wowed by the art.

Here’s an annotated, illustrated one :

The New Annotated Dracula (The Annotated Books) https://a.co/d/49lpKMb

Or if you’re in continental US I’ll happily send you one of my (at least) 2 copies. Plus a Xiahou Dun original Dracula drawing, just for funnsies.

Again, seriously not being lovely, just honestly confused by the request and sincerely trying to be helpful.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Xiahou Dun posted:

Dracula https://a.co/d/cjYlWE7


????

I’m not trying to snark, I literally just don’t understand the question. It’s a public domain book and super famous, copies are everywhere. The link is 20$ cause it’s a pretty hardcover but I scrolled by a bunch of 7$ paperbacks if that’s more your jam. There’s even an illustrated one but I wasn’t wowed by the art.

Here’s an annotated, illustrated one :

The New Annotated Dracula (The Annotated Books) https://a.co/d/49lpKMb

Or if you’re in continental US I’ll happily send you one of my (at least) 2 copies. Plus a Xiahou Dun original Dracula drawing, just for funnsies.

Again, seriously not being lovely, just honestly confused by the request and sincerely trying to be helpful.

Aha, no, you're good! I should be more explicit: to my knowledge there's nothing wrong with the public domain edition of the book - it's not like it needs a translation or w/e. But I figured asking in case there's a notorious bad edition of it somewhere would be useful. Even moreso with the annotated ones, there's like 3+ flavors and well, does anyone know which annotations are the most interesting/informative to read? I'd like to reread the book once, not three+ times.

Also I appreciate the offer, and I am in the continental US, but I'll pass on the free book. My mod star has made me extra paranoid about sharing my personal info - it's not you, it's the terrors of the internet. (Which sucks, as in the past few years I've actually been financially able to participate in the secret book santa but don't feel comfortable due to doxxing concerns.)

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



StrixNebulosa posted:

Aha, no, you're good! I should be more explicit: to my knowledge there's nothing wrong with the public domain edition of the book - it's not like it needs a translation or w/e. But I figured asking in case there's a notorious bad edition of it somewhere would be useful. Even moreso with the annotated ones, there's like 3+ flavors and well, does anyone know which annotations are the most interesting/informative to read? I'd like to reread the book once, not three+ times.

Also I appreciate the offer, and I am in the continental US, but I'll pass on the free book. My mod star has made me extra paranoid about sharing my personal info - it's not you, it's the terrors of the internet. (Which sucks, as in the past few years I've actually been financially able to participate in the secret book santa but don't feel comfortable due to doxxing concerns.)

No worries. It was 30% wanting to be helpful and 70% an excuse to draw some draculas.

The Klinger one I linked is usually regarded as the best for full glory of giant sprawling annotations that go on cool derails about Victorian technology and etiquette and stuff. It doesn't quite reach my preferred level where the annotations occasionally crowd out the actual story, but it goes into quite some detail and Leslie's a good writer and giant nerd.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Xiahou Dun posted:

No worries. It was 30% wanting to be helpful and 70% an excuse to draw some draculas.

The Klinger one I linked is usually regarded as the best for full glory of giant sprawling annotations that go on cool derails about Victorian technology and etiquette and stuff. It doesn't quite reach my preferred level where the annotations occasionally crowd out the actual story, but it goes into quite some detail and Leslie's a good writer and giant nerd.

Klinger seems to have annotated everything. I know they annotated The Sandman, presumably why the Gaiman foreword to that Dracula.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Xiahou Dun posted:

No worries. It was 30% wanting to be helpful and 70% an excuse to draw some draculas.

The Klinger one I linked is usually regarded as the best for full glory of giant sprawling annotations that go on cool derails about Victorian technology and etiquette and stuff. It doesn't quite reach my preferred level where the annotations occasionally crowd out the actual story, but it goes into quite some detail and Leslie's a good writer and giant nerd.

Awesome, thank you! That sounds like exactly what I want.

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



I subscribed to Dracula Daily and am just reading it for the first time like that. sure, there are long weeks where Jonathan is too busy cowering to update his diary or Mina hasn’t yet written back to Lucy or whatever, but I love it as a no-attention-span-friendly way to get engaged, it’s a very cool thing you can only do with an epistolary novel, and the “chapter” titles are amusing (“somebody’s got an amazing skincare regimen”)

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

I subscribed to Dracula Daily and am just reading it for the first time like that. sure, there are long weeks where Jonathan is too busy cowering to update his diary or Mina hasn’t yet written back to Lucy or whatever, but I love it as a no-attention-span-friendly way to get engaged, it’s a very cool thing you can only do with an epistolary novel, and the “chapter” titles are amusing (“somebody’s got an amazing skincare regimen”)

I had no idea this was a thing, but it is exactly and perfectly what I want in every single way. Subscribed the gently caress out of that.

Thank you.

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



happy to help! make sure you read from the beginning to catch up, we’re in a lull right now while Dr. Seward studies Renfield

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



I probably will anyway, just because I can, but it's not like I don't know the plot of Dracula from the other 8 times I've read it or however many it is.

Paddyo
Aug 3, 2007

Untrustable posted:

I recently signed up for Scribd (it fuckin whips, by the by) and I now have so many books to read that I'm dealing with some choice paralysis.

So I leave my hobby in your hands, horror thread. What am I reading next?


Blackwater is legitimately one of the best books that I've ever read, and will bounce around in your head for a long time after you finish. Be advised though - it's a stretch to call it a horror novel, and you really have to be in the right place before you dive into it. It's a brick of a novel.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Paddyo posted:

Blackwater is legitimately one of the best books that I've ever read, and will bounce around in your head for a long time after you finish. Be advised though - it's a stretch to call it a horror novel, and you really have to be in the right place before you dive into it. It's a brick of a novel.

Agreed on all counts. I was late to work a couple times cause I was listening to it in the car and couldn't turn it off.

Paddyo
Aug 3, 2007

Count Thrashula posted:

Agreed on all counts. I was late to work a couple times cause I was listening to it in the car and couldn't turn it off.

That narrator was amazing!

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Imo Blackwater is plenty horrific and gothic and revolting and don’t let it also being a soap opera dissuade you from reading. One of the best written novels, start to finish, that I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading. Incredible character writing, and so much of it still lingers in my mind a year+ later

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

my body is a temple to an idiot god
As mentioned upthread, the Charlie Parker books really do get into some horror spaces

there are clearly terrible, demonic entities masquerading as human throughout the series and some amazingly unpleasant things occur that are supernatural

Watching a man hit the very bottom and then as he claws his way back, realising that things are not and never have been what he thought really builds an effective sense of dread. I would love to see these filmed with proper care and attention.

The other characters are also fully formed and well realised instead of just plot devices. One of the few series I just jab buy on initial release.

newts
Oct 10, 2012

ClydeFrog posted:

As mentioned upthread, the Charlie Parker books really do get into some horror spaces

I really like this series. They’re very competently written in a genre where a lot of books are airport-reading level trash. Connolly’s writing reminds me of the best of Stephen King (who can be very good or very bad)—he’s really deft at getting the reader to care about side characters and places and history, which I normally find boring.

Also, I haven’t caught up to the last few books and probably won’t have time. Did we ever find out if Parker was one of the fallen angels? Or is he just a dude? The books seemed to be hinting at it but then reversed course. I lost track right around then.

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

my body is a temple to an idiot god

newts posted:

I really like this series. They’re very competently written in a genre where a lot of books are airport-reading level trash. Connolly’s writing reminds me of the best of Stephen King (who can be very good or very bad)—he’s really deft at getting the reader to care about side characters and places and history, which I normally find boring.

Also, I haven’t caught up to the last few books and probably won’t have time. Did we ever find out if Parker was one of the fallen angels? Or is he just a dude? The books seemed to be hinting at it but then reversed course. I lost track right around then.

It's left kind of vague, for the reader to decide I think but I'm weighing on the side of him being a nephilim of some kind - especially given how his dead daughter very specifically exists in another realm. It's as if he's cut off from 95% of what he once was and is here to combat others of a similar ilk

If you stopped at Black Angel I can recommend picking them up again at some point. There's a new book of two stories in August that I'm very much looking forward to.

newts
Oct 10, 2012
I think I read through to The Wolf in Winter and then stopped. Mostly, because after I had kids, I just couldn’t deal with reading anything about kids in danger, even if they were fictional kids.

The Black Angel was one of my favorites of the series. And I also remember really liking The Lovers. Perfect balance of supernatural and detective stuff for me.

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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Xiahou Dun posted:

No worries. It was 30% wanting to be helpful and 70% an excuse to draw some draculas.

The Klinger one I linked is usually regarded as the best for full glory of giant sprawling annotations that go on cool derails about Victorian technology and etiquette and stuff. It doesn't quite reach my preferred level where the annotations occasionally crowd out the actual story, but it goes into quite some detail and Leslie's a good writer and giant nerd.

Not a horror book, but I wanted to say I've been reading an annotated version of The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler that is exactly like this, and it's been a great experience. The annotations go into the slang, dress, customs, prices of things/salaries etc. of the time and it really adds a lot.

There are a shitload of notes, often 2-3 per page, but I read on my Kindle so i can either click the hyperlink on the page that takes me right to the annotation, and then go back to the text, or just read on to the end of the chapter where all that chapter's annotations are laid out before the start of the next chapter.

I think it'd be great to read Dracula this way.

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