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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Arsenic Lupin posted:

I have learned that I am not the sort of person who can keep a streptocarpus alive.

The sweet siren song of Logees has hit once more. Has anybody here grown a Hoya odorata or stephanotis indoors?

I just got myself a Hoya subcalva since it has a nice fragrance (grape juice!), but I've heard hoyas are generally not too difficult to keep alive so that might be an easier time of things than a streptocarpus.

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down1nit
Jan 10, 2004

outlive your enemies
Is it a Bad Idea to try to grow broomrape for my own pleasure? Isn't there a broomrape that feeds off of ivy?

They're so loving metal, and gorgeous blooms.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Ok Comboomer posted:

I’m in CT for the next while, I gotta hit up their brick + mortar retail spot

can’t wait to regularly be dropping :10bux::10bux::10bux: at J&L

It's expensive but their plants have always done really well for me. (I've never ordered from them online though, so no idea there.) Worth going to see the crazy poo poo in their greenhouses if nothing else.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

The sweet siren song of Logees has hit once more. Has anybody here grown a Hoya odorata or stephanotis indoors?

Hoyas are usually pretty chill, and jasmines are pretty popular houseplants so I assume it's fine?

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
jasmines are popular houseplants, but it probably depends on the specific species and what your given humidity and light situation indoors is

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I was intending to impulse buy Logee's peanut butter plant but someone bought the last one :qq:

Ubiquitus
Nov 20, 2011

Can anyone give me the skinny on pre-emergent? Is it safe to use in areas I never expect to make a garden? My understanding is that it changes the ph of the soil, is that correct? Or is it some heinous concoction that’s the equivalent of salting the earth?

If it’s not the latter, are there any the thread recommends? Ty in advance!

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Neeksy posted:

jasmines are popular houseplants, but it probably depends on the specific species and what your given humidity and light situation indoors is

I was planning on Jasminum grandifolium, because it thrives in cooler house temperatures. I can give it the light. We're super humid, being beside the sea.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Ubiquitus posted:

Can anyone give me the skinny on pre-emergent? Is it safe to use in areas I never expect to make a garden? My understanding is that it changes the ph of the soil, is that correct? Or is it some heinous concoction that’s the equivalent of salting the earth?

If it’s not the latter, are there any the thread recommends? Ty in advance!

You should ask in the landscaping thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3892694&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 There's a little overlap, but not really much in this one. Most of this and the gardening thread won't use a pre-emergent because it interferes with the stuff we do want to grow.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
Oh yeah, I figured I should post some of the nurseries and seed suppliers I've found to add to the list of sources, I've left out the ones that overlap with the existing list to the best of my memory.

Nurseries!
https://www.farreachesfarm.com/default.asp
https://www.diggingdog.com/
http://www.kartuz.com/
https://edelweissperennials.com/
http://sequimrareplants.com/index.html
https://telosrarebulbs.com/
https://www.nhhostas.com/
Seeds!
https://www.swallowtailgardenseeds.com/
https://www.rareseeds.com/
https://www.reneesgarden.com/
http://www.seedhunt.com/california-natives/

I'm always looking for new places!

Neeksy fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 25, 2022

Mondosupreme
Oct 21, 2005
ha ha ha

Neeksy posted:

Oh yeah, I figured I should post some of the nurseries and seed suppliers I've found to add to the list of sources, I've left out the ones that overlap with the existing list to the best of my memory.

Nurseries!
https://www.farreachesfarm.com/default.asp
https://www.diggingdog.com/
http://www.kartuz.com/
https://edelweissperennials.com/
http://sequimrareplants.com/index.html
https://telosrarebulbs.com/
https://www.nhhostas.com/
Seeds!
https://www.swallowtailgardenseeds.com/
https://www.rareseeds.com/
https://www.reneesgarden.com/
http://www.seedhunt.com/california-natives/

I'm always looking for new places!

Shout out to https://strictlymedicinalseeds.com/, incredible variety of plants and seeds!

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
single-handedly moving Charizard and Tyranitar and friends from MA to CT…..



getting ready to go…



I used a piece of poo poo $25 ratcheting winch puller and a $120 pair of surprisingly high quality motorcycle ramps to get everybody in



one Japanese black pine, one bald cypress and then a bunch of boxwoods and junipers to fill up the rest of the van



still gotta move a lot of plants, but they’re all way smaller



new home. everybody’s situated in the back yard, but it was 1:30 so I didn’t take pics outside yet

https://youtu.be/KuQoQgL63Xo

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I actually ordered a few sweet pepper seeds from these guys, and out of the Murasaki [Purple] pepper, Sweet Bonnet, and Pippin's Golden Honey Pepper, the Honey Pepper is the only one I've gotten to sprout. The first two have yet to sprout on me, and this is after soaking them overnight.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

That Old Ganon posted:

I actually ordered a few sweet pepper seeds from these guys, and out of the Murasaki [Purple] pepper, Sweet Bonnet, and Pippin's Golden Honey Pepper, the Honey Pepper is the only one I've gotten to sprout. The first two have yet to sprout on me, and this is after soaking them overnight.

I had the opposite experience with the Tam and Habanada, all 9 of each I tried all made it.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

That Old Ganon posted:

I actually ordered a few sweet pepper seeds from these guys, and out of the Murasaki [Purple] pepper, Sweet Bonnet, and Pippin's Golden Honey Pepper, the Honey Pepper is the only one I've gotten to sprout. The first two have yet to sprout on me, and this is after soaking them overnight.

They sent me seeds that had crossed with another pepper and I was very angry. I ordered Datil seeds and they'd been crossed with something the size of a poblano and didn't have the heat they're supposed to have. Between that and their crappy politics, I won't use them again. Their seeds are not as rare as they proclaim them to be (most of the time).

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I am unaware of their politics, are they actually right wingers?

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Neeksy posted:

I am unaware of their politics, are they actually right wingers?

There was an event a few years ago now with one of the Bundys as one of the speakers in 2018 or 19?. The public vocally objected and they tried to pretend that the information he would share was more important than the armed assault on the parks service. They just stopped talking about it after some posts defending it and quietly took him off the list.

Also, they sold me bad seeds more than once. So take your pick which reason applies best to you. Why sell pea seeds with under 50% germ rates at all? They were just the same peas you could find anywhere, but they made up for selling bad seeds by sending twice as many. I could have spent that $5 on seeds that didn’t cause me more work.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Neeksy posted:

Oh yeah, I figured I should post some of the nurseries and seed suppliers I've found to add to the list of sources, I've left out the ones that overlap with the existing list to the best of my memory.

I'm always looking for new places!
Digging Dog is near me, but they don't allow walk-ins. :sad:

Rare and vintage bulbs: https://oldhousegardens.com/
Rare and beautiful indoor (mostly) plants: https://www.logees.com
Unusual fruiting plants, and we're talking Szechuan peppercorns here, https://onegreenworld.com/
Many kinds of citrus, exquisitely packed and raring to go: https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/
All kinds of plants, most of them, despite the name, perennial: https://www.anniesannuals.com/


And, if you're willing to think long-term, http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/fruit/rosetta-apples.htm Lots of rare apples, including some that only they sell. The catch? They sell bud grafts: rootstock with a bud grafted in. It'll be ten years before it fruits, but it's worth it if you have the years.

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I've had good luck with this guy. I'm going to buy his Sweet Bonnets to replace the rareseeds one as soon as I can.
https://www.86peppers.com/

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
it's bonsai-centric but brent carries all sorts of rare cultivars of fruiting/flowering trees, conifers, and so forth. not the cheapest but great service and the trees i've bough have been pruned for interesting trunk lines

https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/viewcat.htm

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Ok new newbie orchid question: flowers are going great but some of it is a bit squished up. Is there a way I can move them apart further so they have room or should I leave it to sort itself out itself or should I prune off the buds that are stuck behind that one squished up flower?





trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Organza Quiz posted:

Ok new newbie orchid question: flowers are going great but some of it is a bit squished up. Is there a way I can move them apart further so they have room or should I leave it to sort itself out itself or should I prune off the buds that are stuck behind that one squished up flower?







you can separate them and hold them in place with a stick or a bit of thin bonsai wire if you have it or whatever

If the flowers end up having a problem the orchid will more likely than not abort them on its own

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Thanks, good point I have tons of wire lying around from craft projects. I've rigged up the problem bit like this for now:

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule



Pumpkin update

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I forgot to add some of my favorite etsy sources!

https://www.etsy.com/shop/StarterPlant
https://www.etsy.com/shop/OnMyOwnRoots
https://www.etsy.com/shop/AThousandFlowersShop
https://www.etsy.com/shop/AurorasGardenShop
https://www.etsy.com/shop/OxalisGreenery
https://www.etsy.com/shop/9waters
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Sproutique

pokie
Apr 27, 2008

IT HAPPENED!

I'm gonna install a ~20lb weed light this week for my succs. Gonna have to drill into my vaulted ceiling - wish me luck.

Lakitu7 posted:

Yes, mix with water in that ratio and spray once a week. Avoid spraying during the midday hot afternoon sun.

Ok, my KHCO3 arrived. The cactus I posted about keeps dying (and I keep chopping it) so I have little hope of it surviving, but I also lost two other smaller plants nearby, one almost certainly to fungus. I might as well spray loving everything in the sun room.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Does anyone feel inspired to do a megapost about moss poles? I think I'm trying to decide between premade and diy.

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!
My maypop is out of control, but I guess that's what a month straight of rain will do.

captkirk
Feb 5, 2010
This year I bought a yuzu tree sapling. I live in the US Midwest, so I'm planning on bringing into my garage (which I keep at around 45 degrees) and using a grow light with a timer to keep it alive.


Unfortunately this has been a rough year for the tree. First it showed up too early to be put outside, so I had it inside for a month or so, it started with some new growth, then I transitioned it outside too quickly and the leaves appeared to burn in the sun. Then it got watered too much, then too little, then I dialed in the water properly, then we hit the rainier parts of the season and the poor tree got several inches of rain in a week.

The larger lobe (?) of each leaf fell off, except for one leaf pair. It does appear to still be alive and I've been fertilizing it with a citrus targeted fertilizer each much.


Is there anything I can/could/should do for this tree as the summer closes? Anything I should do in fall to prep it for going inside? Anything to keep the poor thing alive through the winter?

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Well, do your best to allow the tree to regain vigor. It looks pretty weak right now but i have a citrus that slowly lost all its leaves before popping out all new ones.

you may have another two months where you can keep it outside, so keep it on the drier side of things and dont fertilize until/if you see new growth emerging. Next time you water it thoroughly, lift the pot to get a sense of how much it weighs and use that to guide your watering (ie: wait until the pot feels lighter to water)

Good luck!

Bloody Cat Farm
Oct 20, 2010

I can smell your pussy, Clarice.
Does anyone have experience with raspberry bushy dwarf virus? I’m going to get rid of the raspberry in that area, but how to I get rid of the virus in the soil? From what I understand, nematodes can reinfect plants.

I’m a little at a loss because I think it’s throughout my yard, but I’m not 100% sure. How can I figure out if it’s that wide spread?

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Would anyone know what these flowers are aside from aggro as hell?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

They look like Morning Glories to me. And yeah, they love to grow.

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011



I have this very shady spot in my back lawn that is heavily shaded and as you can see the grass doesn't grow but I would love to do something back here where I can plant something beautiful and make the area nicer. Right now my wife has her bird feeders over the area so plants that can handle heavy shade and might provide some shelter for birds. Curious what recommendations everybody would have.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

That Old Ganon posted:

Would anyone know what these flowers are aside from aggro as hell?



Ipomoea nil 'Grandpa Ott'

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Rythe posted:



I have this very shady spot in my back lawn that is heavily shaded and as you can see the grass doesn't grow but I would love to do something back here where I can plant something beautiful and make the area nicer. Right now my wife has her bird feeders over the area so plants that can handle heavy shade and might provide some shelter for birds. Curious what recommendations everybody would have.

Whereabouts do you live? Pretty impossible to give specific recommendations without having some idea where you are. I see sweet gums, white oaks, and bamboo, so I'll assume the upper-ish southeastern US.

I think you've got good bones to work around with all those mature hardwoods. Hydrangeas are good and usually like some light shade, though it may be too shady there. It looks like fairly deep shade in the back. There are alot of native woodland ferns that do well in those conditions. Depending on how cold it gets, camellias like shade, but again, the back area is probably too deep of shade. Hostas are a good and interesting groundcover for shade, but deer love them if you have deer problems. IUm on the gulf coast and there are alot of gingers that flower and have interesting foliage and do well in shade, and can grow surprisingly far north if you mulch them or treat them as annuals. Spring ephemerals like daffodils/snowdrops/crocus (depending on climate again) are great and will provide some early spring interest before it gets too shade. There are some interesting small native trees/large shrubs that are naturally understory plants too. Bottlebrush buckeye is a great one, red buckeye, dogwoods, redbuds, Carolina silverbell, native azaleas/rhododendrons/mountain laurel etc. Moss/rock gardens can be cool in a space like that too. Go to your local-ish botanical garden-they almost certainly have some sort of shade garden somewhere. It's a great resource for ideas and information.

If you wanted to do a larger, more long term plan, get rid of that clump of sweetgums in the mulch circle. They are stump sprouts from an older tree and won't have a very healthy form when they get bigger. Unless you're in really good bottomland they tend to be pretty scraggly and fall apart easily in storms when they get large and the balls they drop are a nuisance when mowing anyway. Hard to tell exactly how large they are, but they look like they might be small enough to remove yourself. You could replace it something smaller, maybe a nice crepe myrtle like 'Natchez' or a Japanese maple or magnolia that could be a specimen and have all season interest. It would also let more light into that back area and open up your options a bit there there. There's a small-ish tree with a hole in it back where the bamboo starts you might also consider removing to open up the canopy a little and let more light in. If you already had tree people coming to remove the sweet gums I'd get them to get that one too, but I wouldn't hire someone just to remove that.

I would try to kill that bamboo too. It can take over pretty quickly.

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011

I love in Eastern NC zone 8A.

I think after talking with my wife we might take out that tree in the front and try to return the area to native flowers and plants if we get good sunlight exposure. The main idea is to have a paving stone path way and wild flowers and native plants on each side, for viewing and still gain access to the feeders.

I know from beginning research, the basic concept is to tarp off the entire area to kill everything and try to sow the wild flower seeds before spring time. I think I'm coming into the season where I want to start this process too.

Not sure if this is the right fourm though but getting a book recommendation would be solid or any pointers or advice.

Either that or we will keep the tree and try to put in shade tolerant bushes and order plants that might thrive in that area. Got some research to do still.

Rythe fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Sep 6, 2022

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

my zz plant (which is a succulent I think) has been on my patio the last few months. at what point should I bring it back inside? is it based on hitting a certain temp, or just time of year? currently the low is bottoming out around 50 degrees

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

actionjackson posted:

my zz plant (which is a succulent I think) has been on my patio the last few months. at what point should I bring it back inside? is it based on hitting a certain temp, or just time of year? currently the low is bottoming out around 50 degrees

I lost a ZZ last year to cold/wet + a subsequent fungal infection between October and early November.

Doing it over now, I probably wouldn’t wait much more than late September or early October, not worth the risk of an early frost, or a damp and rainy fall, ruining your plant for a bit of extra sun late in the year

I will say that ZZs are much more cold-intolerant than cacti or euphorbs

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Ok Comboomer posted:

I lost a ZZ last year to cold/wet + a subsequent fungal infection between October and early November.

Doing it over now, I probably wouldn’t wait much more than late September or early October, not worth the risk of an early frost, or a damp and rainy fall, ruining your plant for a bit of extra sun late in the year

I will say that ZZs are much more cold-intolerant than cacti or euphorbs

ok thanks. btw I'm in MN if that's relevant

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bagmonkey
May 13, 2003




Grimey Drawer

actionjackson posted:

my zz plant (which is a succulent I think) has been on my patio the last few months. at what point should I bring it back inside? is it based on hitting a certain temp, or just time of year? currently the low is bottoming out around 50 degrees

My houseplants spend the summer on my front porch, including a few ZZs. I usually bring in the bulk of them when temps start to hit 50 overnight. I've had them come in as early as last week of september, had some of them out there until NOVEMBER this past year

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