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Regalingualius posted:Apparently today was the 25th anniversary of End of Eva first releasing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HALL5-PZu4
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Haha, holy poo poo. Just how Anno would have wanted it advertised, with hellish screaming and possibly an epilepsy trigger?
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CHIMlord posted:Haha, holy poo poo. Just how Anno would have wanted it advertised, with hellish screaming and possibly an epilepsy trigger? Porygon episode hadn't aired yet so it's safe.
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Are there any deep dive analyses of the Rebuild movies that people like? I'm starting my fourth re-watch of the series in preparation for watching the final rebuild movie I didn't like the second and third movies the first time I saw them and I'm interested in seeing the meanings that people have read into them. Is there a popular reading of the events that's mostly accepted by the community? I like reading about Eva as much as I do watching it
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Xander B Coolridge posted:Are there any deep dive analyses of the Rebuild movies that people like? I'm starting my fourth re-watch of the series in preparation for watching the final rebuild movie 3.0+1.0 really elevates 3.33 retroactively and makes it clear that it's wild narrative swerve was in fact critical to achieving the desired endgame for the franchise. You might come away liking, or at least appreciating movie 3 a lot more after watching movie 4.
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Aug 1, 2022 20:05
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I didn't see any of the rebuilds until I could marathon all the rebuilds and they absolutely work best as a whole in communication with each other, which is amazing considering the production gaps
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Aug 1, 2022 20:11
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I bet if they ever made Matrix sequels and there was a delay between the second and third films it'd have the same problem where the middle film is actually pretty good but options drop hard during the wait for context.
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Aug 1, 2022 23:49
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nine-gear crow posted:3.0+1.0 really elevates 3.33 retroactively and makes it clear that it's wild narrative swerve was in fact critical to achieving the desired endgame for the franchise. You might come away liking, or at least appreciating movie 3 a lot more after watching movie 4. This. 4 cashes the checks they wrote with 3, and now you don't have to wait!
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Aug 1, 2022 23:52
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if you say you wouldnt watch it you're a liar https://twitter.com/jacobhalton/status/1553187460800208897?s=21&t=Nvakqmnr57_Qcq-El-fHEA
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Jonny 290 posted:if you say you wouldnt watch it you're a liar Beavis and Butt-Head Do Third Impact
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Aug 2, 2022 00:35
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The Great Cornholiel.
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Jonny 290 posted:if you say you wouldnt watch it you're a liar Here lies Shinji, he never scored.
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Aug 3, 2022 15:21
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Has there been anything about a US disc rerelease of the first Rebuild?
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Aug 13, 2022 20:42
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GKids got the rights for 3.0+1.0 . Who knows what maneuvering they have to do for the other 3.
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Shiroc posted:Has there been anything about a US disc rerelease of the first Rebuild? Evamonkey, either via website or Twitter, is who I would watch about news on this. Latest they have on Rebuilds prior to 3.0+1.0 is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://twitter.com/EvaMonkey/status/1537793531510771713
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Aug 14, 2022 01:42
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There's speculation that Prime had a one year exclusivity window and now that that has elapsed as of 24 hours ago we'd theoretically start getting JP/INT home release announcements, or at least movements in that direction.
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i just rewatched 3+1 for no real reason in particular it still blows me away how well it ties everything up. after the like 2 decades of production on the remakes, it somehow ties up everything not just plot wise, but thematically and artistically. also it made me think whole unfortunate it is that this series, let alone anime on the whole, is choc full of shots sexualising not only womens, but regularly young girls, bodies. i think as a series, eva is one of the best things ever greated, but its kind of hard to recommend when in this last movie, realised in 2021, contains a whole bunch of shots of canoncially 13 year old (physically but whatever same poo poo) girls naked that super do draw attention to their asses and tits.
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Sep 10, 2022 14:03
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It would be great if anime could rally behind getting rid of "fan service" as a whole, because it's just various levels of gross. But unfortunately "fan service" is why a lot of gross people like anime to begin with. I don't see it ever happening.
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Honestly unless forgetting something I think it was not as bad in the original series. Any shot that was kind of fan-servicey was presented as either incidental, awkward, or outright distrubing, and not in a way that fetishized any of those things either in the narrative or subtext. Of course there was still always the promise of “more” fan service in the episode stingers, though, and I’m sure there were people wearing out their vhs copies pausing and rewinding. But the way they focus on it in the rebuilds (I think the Auska plugsuit in 2.0 was the “check, please” moment for me) just goes to show that the og series + EoE is basically infinitely better than the rebuilds in every way except visual polish.
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Sep 10, 2022 18:38
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Yeah I actually think the Rebuilds were significantly worse in that regard.
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Sep 10, 2022 19:08
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I mean the rebuilds introduced a character whose sole purpose is to be that character
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Sep 10, 2022 19:59
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I don't really remember it being that bad in general, as in I didn't actually notice it while watching the dubs and browsing the internet, but 3.0+1.0 definitely felt like they added in way too much nudity for literally no reason.
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Sep 10, 2022 20:02
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Someone's gone through a done a very interesting analysis of the Rebuilds and their background lore. Unfortunately, it's not in English but the machine translation handles it fairly well. Lots of little details and hints linked to various small details that I haven't seen people pick up on. Off the top of my head, some of the bits and pieces: The Dead Sea Scrolls shown in the final film aren't to be read up to down but left to right. Second Impact made the poles of the world flip, which is why there's an "original" Calvary base. The huge planet teeth ravine links the Third Impact to Lillith as she shows off chest teeth in EOE. Adam was thrown to the moon, Lilith to Japan. Unit-00 was made from Lilith's lower half whereas Unit-01 is a cloned Adam. Mark 06 is original Adam. Unit-13 was something like a hybrid of the two. Near Third Impact looks so different as it involved a fake Adam and a real Lilith -- it wasn't near as in aborted, but near as in counterfeit. Mari assisted Yui in her contact experiment but killed herself following Yui's disappearance.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Mari assisted Yui in her contact experiment but killed herself following Yui's disappearance. Wait, where did that come from? Like yeah okay that page exists but what's the primary source?
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Midjack posted:Wait, where did that come from? Like yeah okay that page exists but what's the primary source? Well, you could read Part 3 but... Mari knew Gendo, Yui and Fuyutsuki. She should be their age, yet she is not -- why not? She also talks about them as if she knows them personally, like calling Gendo by his first name. (3.0+1.0) The first time Mari piloted an Evangelion was at the start of the second film. Therefore, she could not have fallen victim to the Curse of Eva until she activated Unit 02's Beast Mode during the fight against the Tenth Angel. (2.22) -Nami indicates a clone as in the case of Ayanami and Shikinami. Mari is opposed to NERV -- or, at least, works for a group that is opposed to NERV, presumably the IPEA. (2.22) In the Rebuild films, it is stated that there is the technology to alter and remove memories. (2.22, 3.33) Meta-textually, clones in Evangelion have received their memories in their next body (Rei in NGE.) Mari seems to have a particular understanding with Fuyutsuki to work against Gendo. (3.0+1.0) Fuyutsuki refers to Mari as 'Mari Iscariot.' This is a reference to Judas Iscariot. Judas is associated with death, betrayal and regret. Yui is the Christ figure. Fuyutsuki and Mari have some secret understanding and shared sympathy for Gendo wanting to bring Yui back. (3.0+1.0) Mari exhibits secret knowledge of many of the aspects of the lore and background seemingly known only to SEELE, Gendo, and so on -- the Adams, the NHG warships, the true story of 2nd Impact, etc. (2.22, 3.33, 3.0+1.0) While Mari apologizes to Asuka when she is devoured by Evangelion 13, Mari is also directly addressing the place where Yui vanished. The author draws a lot on repeating visuals, motifs and patterns to determine their reading. So, the author supposes: The Mari we all meet is a cloned body with the memories of the old. Mari's death, betrayal and regret is tied to Yui and she played some role in the contact experiment where Yui vanished. Mari killed herself due to considering herself responsible for Yui's "accident." The cloned Mari was stored at the secret Bethany Base, which included many other hidden things: the vivisected Third Angel and entry plug prototype, the Dummy System prototype and Evangelion-05, and the Key/s of Nebuchadnezzar. edit: You can also link her to Naoko Akagi, come to think of it -- a fourth member of the Yui/Gendo/Fuyutsuki group who killed herself shortly after Yui's "accident" and was forgotten about despite being heavily involved in the Eva project. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Sep 11, 2022 |
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Well, you could read Part 3 but... Sure, I don't argue any of that and I guess I can buy that Mari is a clone but I'm not seeing anything that says she killed herself, that sounds like this "ab solute" person is making stuff up a bit. They're hanging it off the Iscariot quip, but Judas is far more readily tied to betrayal than suicide. Midjack fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Sep 11, 2022 |
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Midjack posted:Sure, I don't argue any of that and I guess I can buy that Mari is a clone but I'm not seeing anything that says she killed herself, that sounds like this "ab solute" person is making stuff up a bit. They're hanging it off the Iscariot quip, but Judas is far more readily tied to betrayal than suicide. It also assumes The curse only comes from piloting an Eva in beast mode specifically. Meanwhile, Mari is noted to have created LCL, which leaves the possibility of her picking up the curse from different, earlier research.
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Honestly think there's way too much effort put into explaining Mari. She just feels like "new girl with new plot" more then anything and is sort of off handedly dropped into some of the ~mysterious Eva lore~ after the fact. Like, as mentioned, her entire interaction from intro is to be someone who actually treats Shinji like a human being and be receptive to his emotions in a healthy way, a rebuttal to the holy trilogy of wildly inappropriate adult guardian with big tits, mega-tsundere abusive redhead, and blue haired emotionally dead girl who learns what love is but too late.
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yeah as with all eva lore, the lore is a distraction. mari's real point is being someone who understands all the poo poo shinji went/goes through, but who manages to somehow avoid getting overly enmeshed in it like everyone else. a peer he can connect to once he's managed to unfuck his worldview a bit, and one who is placed on equal (or even superior) footing with him in terms of knowing everything that went down (which is thematically stronger than sticking him with a true rando or even a bridge crew person in the end, since mari knows everything that went down, even playing a key role in remaking the world, and is still willing to connect with shinji). she's also the only person who correctly recognizes the genre trappings of evangelion (giant robots fighting aliens) as both very fun and also limiting to growth in key ways. e: she is also a cute anime girl with the attendant benefits that brings in terms of character merch, giving the rebuilds a unique hook, etc., but that's all outside the films themselves. there's also probably an argument to be made that her role as the "fanservice" character in the rebuilds connects to the fact that she's someone shinji can develop a healthy sexual/romantic attachment to, unlike his interactions with literally everyone else (their final interaction in 3.0+1.0 very much foregrounds this element of her character), but mostly it's just not worth thinking too hard about her. pretty much everything interesting and important about her is right there on the surface, because (again unlike everyone else) she's a straightforward person and more-or-less an open book, and that book is mostly about being a regular person whose deep past and dark secrets can remain comfortably buried because she's capable of having a conversation about something other than her secrets, personal traumas, or neuroses. Valentin fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Sep 11, 2022 |
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I really enjoyed Mari's relationship with Asuka, especially in 3.0+1. They came off to me as being pretty close friends because Mari could keep up with Asuka and cared about her. I could be misremembering since I've only seen the movies once once but that's how it came off. I'd like to see the missing story between 2 and 3 because I assume it would show a lot more of how that relationship developed.
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chiasaur11 posted:It also assumes The curse only comes from piloting an Eva in beast mode specifically. Meanwhile, Mari is noted to have created LCL, which leaves the possibility of her picking up the curse from different, earlier research. Mari created LCL, what? Ignoring that the Curse of Eva comes specifically from plug depth, there doesn't seem to be anything on the Internet or Evangelion wikies that corroborate the claim that she created LCL.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Mari created LCL, what? Ignoring that the Curse of Eva comes specifically from plug depth, there doesn't seem to be anything on the Internet or Evangelion wikies that corroborate the claim that she created LCL. I saw it in a translated pamphlet for Shin, one of the massive pile of handouts for the film, but I'm having real trouble finding it again. Could have even been faked, although I think it wasn't.
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Eva TV isn't Kill la Kill but it has plenty of fanservice, even just in the intro. The show and the Rebuild movies aren't especially horny compared to their peers though. The real culprit behind Eva's reputation as a dirty franchise is the period between the show and movies when Gainax was going hog wild with Asuka/Rei figures, art books, and official porn. I can't think of another major media property that's been handled like that in any medium.
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Sep 11, 2022 21:08
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Money money money. Gainax's animators made some good shows but as a business they were always super greasy the more you look into them. Management was nasty.
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Arc Hammer posted:Money money money. They loved making money and also loved trying to hide it from the government.
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https://twitter.com/kibblesmith/status/1575898595244445696
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he was doing what
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Augus posted:he was doing what https://twitter.com/kibblesmith/status/1576021525022400512 I'm hoping that this was his first viewing and he didn't realize exactly what he was in for... but even if so, he probably should've figured out that it was not going to be an appropriate movie for a toddler after the opening scene of a teenager pitifully masturbating at the bedside of a comatose teenager
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Dude's a nerdy late night comedy writer, it's probably a bit.
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Look it may be controversial to say but if you're only 8 months old, it's okay to go with dubs instead of subs.
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